cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Joel Quenneville: Have your chequebook ready. 2 Esquire and wingslogo19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Bettman in the building, just like when Weber pulled his turnbuckle mover on Zetterberg. Look on his face says "99.9% of the time" to me. And shocker, non-traditional NHL puppet market gets the better of the call and win the game... hmmm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Why would Uncle Gary sign a "loose cannon" like Torres? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Dance Shanny, dance. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valas19 50 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Did you watch Hossa's playoffs here in 2009? Do you happen to remember Datsyuk's first 3 or 4 years in the playoffs? Dreadful. Kinda turned out ok, don't you think? You are really condemning Hossa for 1 year? Seemed to play pretty damn good when Chicago won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Wasn't it Dats 1st playoffs in 2002? Hossa had a bum shoulder while a Red Wing (not trying to make excuses for the guy)...I don't remember how Hossa did in the Finals in 2008? Yes, Datsyuk's first playoff was 2002. As he recalled it (paraphrasing) "It was nice, sit on the bench and win cup". He wasn't really great in the playoffs until around 2008. He's gotten world's stronger from my vantage point, and 2007 being a murder's-row of goon teams (Calgary, SJ, Anaheim) probably provided some fortitude. Back on topic: I was as disappointed in Hossa's no-show as anyone, but he had a pretty significant injury. Even after signing with Chicago, he sat out the first half of the season because of his shoulder surgery. The year before in Pittsburgh he was an absolute beast. Gave the Red Wings way more problems than either Crosby or Malkin. And his two-way play is marvelous to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 It was an incredible opportunity to sign someone of his caliber who was willing to forgo long-term, big money contracts to take a shot at the cup while waiting out the Wing's cap situation at the time. Unfortunately, the Wings didn't jump at the chance to lock up a proven elite when they had the chance; still riding the high of Franzen's 2008 playoff performance, with a shortened regular season due to injuries always leaving a portion of his "potential" in the dark. The assumption was always "if he can play a complete season, he'll be a 40-goal scorer", so why not sign him for less than Hossa for the same projected production? The term was there to knock down the cap-hit, but it is more of a noose than a pardon. 2 T.Low and MidMichSteve reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Its starting to be embarrasing to tell people in a hockey fan. first the busch league stuff in NYR/OTT series, then shaw elbowing smith, weber on zetterberg, and now this. at least the guys in the PIT/Philly series seem to be just fighting and commiting only minor, questionable hits. this other s*** is garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 What's the excuse for the refs missing this call?? It's a dirty hit and of story. He better get suspended Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 he left his feet but it is extremely unclear if it was before or after contact, at any rate this was a lot cleaner than neal's hits that he got only 1 game for. But I suspect he will get a game for being a repeat offender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) If anything - I'd be embarassed to say I was a fan of the NBA; so many things wrong with that league I don't know where to begin. The main one being that they showcase the world's most boring sport Edited April 18, 2012 by Wing Across The Pond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 ya i agree michael, i guess what i was just getting at was that with all the dirty play and injuries its just taking away from the integrity of the game. it just sucks to see the best players being injured and not playing because of it. sedin, crosby, hossa, the list goes on. these are our stars and as much as i dislike some of them id like to see them playing. its difficult to talk to a non-fan and talk about how you love the game when all this weak stuff is going on. players should police themselves. suspensions, and fines (holy s*** 2,500 max?!?!) are just a joke. 1 T.Low reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 The main one being that they showcase the world's most boring sport HAHA AMAZING PLAY! He dunked over a player that can't touch him within the bounds of the rules! 2 POINTS!... 106 more to go before the final 2 minutes takes 15 minutes because my team is down by a bucket and I need to foul them every time they inbound. ESPN will show a dozen of the same dunks and jumpers, seemingly at random since one play is as mundane as the next. Then you get to an NHL playoff game and the guy talks over 2 of 7 goals, no saves or hits, with the monotone "boom goes the dynamite" voice for 15 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Dropping 40 goals in the regular season alone probably pushes the team to a top 2 seed. There's a reason we've been floating around 3rd and 5th since he left. Hossa had 29 goals this season. 25 the year before (due to injuries which are common with the winger). If you guys want to argue for Hossa, argue for his overall points. Not just his goals. He isn't guaranteed for 40 every season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 $2,500 fine. And if Torres does anything of that nature again, the NHL will STRONGLY CONSIDER adding another $1,000 to that fine. #ShanahanDiscipline 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank the Tank 31 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Torres has been suspended indefinitely, hearing on Friday. 1 Stinkyness reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Torres has been suspended indefinitely, hearing on Friday. Here's a link. http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/7828639/phoenix-coyotes-raffi-torres-faces-nhl-hearing-hit-chicago-blackhawks-marian-hossa 1 Frank the Tank reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 In the "old" League (last week), the team with the injured player would be contacted and asked if he is able to play in the next game. If the answer was "yes", a simple fine. In the "new" League, television ratings are way up and it would affect Uncle Gary's team. That's quite a corner the League has painted themselves into. In a related story, Kopecký... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 "Who knows," Chicago captain Jonathan Toews said. "I don't know what to expect anymore. I don't think anyone does. So we'll see, it will probably be a surprise, I guess. We've got four [referees] out there. When there's a guy getting carried off on a stretcher, you think that there might be something wrong with what happened. Especially when they're huddling around their goalie in this last game, and he keeps playing, and our guy gets three games for it. So it's pretty frustrating when you see that." http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/7827211/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-chicago-blackhawks-joel-quenneville-rips-officiating Haha... Yep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 I hope Toews remembers this when negotiations begin for the new Collective Bargaining Agreement begin. The Players need to hold the League to a new level of accountability for what is allowed to happen on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Say what you will about Toews I like and would give a lot having him on the Wings. His interview is so true who knows with these clowns? Torres will be looking at a earthshattering 2.500 $ fine just like Weber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Damn, that's crazy. So did they just suspend him so he was forced to miss game 4 until they have a hearing? Or is he getting the book because Hossa was hurt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 The main one being that they showcase the world's most boring sport I'm not a basketball fan, but no way is basketball more boring than baseball. I would rather watch golf than baseball, lol. 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Damn, that's crazy. So did they just suspend him so he was forced to miss game 4 until they have a hearing? Or is he getting the book because Hossa was hurt? It was scheduled for Wednesday but Torres and the NHLPA requested Friday. So he's suspended indefinitely until they determine how long after they've had the hearing. I'm guessing it'll be a decent suspension considering the hit was late, he jumped up and hit Hossa's head, Torres has a history of these kind of hits, he's a repeat offender, and the playoffs have been nuts this year in terms of cheapshots. It's still baffling that no penalty was given on the play considering the kinds of hits they've been tossing players for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted April 18, 2012 It was scheduled for Wednesday but Torres and the NHLPA requested Friday. So he's suspended indefinitely until they determine how long after they've had the hearing. I'm guessing it'll be a decent suspension considering the hit was late, he jumped up and hit Hossa's head, Torres has a history of these kind of hits, he's a repeat offender, and the playoffs have been nuts this year in terms of cheapshots. It's still baffling that no penalty was given on the play considering the kinds of hits they've been tossing players for. And he has no star status. He'll be easy to make an example out of, until someone with star status does something cheap, a la Weber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
