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#1 blueadams

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 03:09 AM

Here's a somewhat realistic idea...





To begin, there's going to be 21.7 mil available in cap space with 16 players on the roster.

...Step one: Trade Ericsson(3.3 mil) and Bertuzzi(2.1 mil). Now there's 27.1 mil available in cap space with 14 players on the roster.

...Step two: Promote Smith (0.9 mil). Now there's 26.2 mil available in cap space with 15 players on the roster.

...Step three: Resign RFA's Helm (1.4 mil) and Abdelkader (1.3 mil). Now there's 23.5 mil available in cap space with 17 players on the roster (I gave both a 0.5 mil raise?).

...Step four: Sign UFA's Parise (7.0 mil), Suter (7.0 mil), Doan (5.0 mil) and a "Salei-like" 6th Defenseman (1.5) mil. Now there's 3.0 mil available in cap space with 21 players on the roster.

...Step five: The remaining 3.0 mil is for Lidstrom. If he NEEDS more than that to come back for one last cup run, then thereís some tinkering that can be done to create some extra cap space. For instance, Abdelkader (1.3 mil), Eaves (1.2 mil) and Kindl (0.9 mil) could be replaced on the roster by Mursak (0.6 mil), Conner (0.5 mil) and Janik (0.5 mil); thatíd clear up 1.8 mil in cap space, making it possible to give Lidstrom 4.8 mil next season. If THATís not enough, maybe you trade Cleary too?

Take a look at this squad:





2012/2013 Detroit Red Wings: (*I doubt the line combos would look like this)

Zetterberg(6.1)-Datsyuk(6.7)-*Parise(7.0)
Nyquist(0.9)-Filppula(3.0)-Franzen(4.0)
Cleary(2.8)-*Helm(1.4)-*Doan(5.0)
Miller(0.8)-*Abdelkader(1.3)-Eaves(1.2)
Emmerton(0.5)

*Lidstrom(3.0)-*Suter(7.0)
Kronwall(4.8)-White(2.9)
Smith(0.9)-*???*(1.5)
Kindl(0.9)

Howard(2.3)
MacDonald(0.6)

Edited by blueadams, 21 April 2012 - 11:35 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:03 AM

Yeah, that's somewhat realistic...
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:36 AM

LoL Parise & Sutter would look sweet in Detroit but I doubt we see so many trades.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:48 AM

You lost me at 'trade Ericsson'. I think he's been big towards the end of this season and our PK suffered with his injury. He's the best defensive dman we've got.

Not to mention Lids will/should get $2mill. I sincerely hope he can do that for this team. After getting $7-$8mill a year for probably 10+ of the 20 years he's been here, I'm sure he's got enough to last him. After all it's not like he's not going to get another job somewhere, i.e. here as a coach or scout. It'll be sweet if he takes sort of £1.5-2mill.

Plus I want Iginla with the temptation of a playoff appearance/challenge. Man that would be sweet. But I'm biased and just love the guy. Always plays with heart and passion and can still score. If Calgary decided to rebuild (which he's on record as saying he's not in favour of) throw him $3-4mill I'd say

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:29 AM

You lost me at 'trade Ericsson'. I think he's been big towards the end of this season and our PK suffered with his injury. He's the best defensive dman we've got.

Not to mention Lids will/should get $2mill. I sincerely hope he can do that for this team. After getting $7-$8mill a year for probably 10+ of the 20 years he's been here, I'm sure he's got enough to last him. After all it's not like he's not going to get another job somewhere, i.e. here as a coach or scout. It'll be sweet if he takes sort of £1.5-2mill.

Plus I want Iginla with the temptation of a playoff appearance/challenge. Man that would be sweet. But I'm biased and just love the guy. Always plays with heart and passion and can still score. If Calgary decided to rebuild (which he's on record as saying he's not in favour of) throw him $3-4mill I'd say


1) I don't disagree about Ericsson there. But, IMO, he's a third-pairing defenseman. I think he lacks the offensive skill-set to ever become much more. He's a very good third-pairing defenseman. But third-pairing defensemen shouldn't be making 3.5 mil a season. I don't think you can build a successful team in the salary cap NHL with pieces like that.

2) It'd be nice if he took that little, but he sure hasn't been..

3) If Iginla was available, I'd be right there with you. But he's not. And Shane Doan's the closest thing that is, IMO.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:47 AM

1) I don't disagree about Ericsson there. But, IMO, he's a third-pairing defenseman. I think he lacks the offensive skill-set to ever become much more. He's a very good third-pairing defenseman. But third-pairing defensemen shouldn't be making 3.5 mil a season. I don't think you can build a successful team in the salary cap NHL with pieces like that.

2) It'd be nice if he took that little, but he sure hasn't been..

3) If Iginla was available, I'd be right there with you. But he's not. And Shane Doan's the closest thing that is, IMO.

Understand where you come from with E, but he's never been too offensive, he's a great defensive piece though.

And if Calgary decide to restructure and rebuild then Iginla is well in contention. They are apparently looking to get younger, he wants nothing to do with a rebuilding Calgary team. Or so the news goes but how often can you trust half the conjecture you hear. Doan would be nice but I think the Yotes will feel they're still in that group of playoff bound teams, especially if they get through round 1 this year. He'll be tough to land.

Think Parise and Suter are gettable (maybe less Suter after last night) but will cost.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:03 AM

So basically, it can happen if the stars align enough to:
1) trade like 4 players (assuming only for picks or prospects since we are taking zero payroll back)
2) sign half the UFA/RFA we have for less money than they are worth (ie Helm $1.4 million for a guy who Babcock has publicly said over and over again makes our entire bottom six, and without him we were f***ed)
3) convince all three top-tier free agents to sign here
4) expect Lidstrom, who is still a better defenseman than Suter despite his age to take $3 million less (or $1 million more than Ericsson)

And all this without moving Franzen. Is this a project for an accounting class or something? Because the probability of one of those deals happening with this team is far too low to even joke about all of them happening.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:11 AM

Why would Doan leave now?

His team is finally going somewhere in the playoffs.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:19 AM

#1...blueadams can't post without making out lines. You must play Franchise mode NHL 12 for hours on end.

#1a...your a little bit crazy, no disrespect, but cmon man. Suter, Parise, and Doan? That's nutty even before you declared it somewhat realistic.

#2...Ericsson really surprised me lately. Don't trade him. He was one of our best players in the series. He looked poised and very good defensively. (If any of you know me, you know that this is a big admission. I've thought Ericsson has been terrible for 90% of his time here) If this is the new Big E, he could be a #4 guy. Shutdown ace, like Stuart was 4 years ago but bigger and meaner.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:29 AM

How come Parros isn't part of your plan?
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

terrible bottom 6.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:36 AM

terrible bottom 6.


I made some changes to the original post.

How come Parros isn't part of your plan?


It'd be nice if that 1.5 mil 6th defenseman we signed in my plan was a fighter.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:38 AM

I made some changes to the original post.



It'd be nice if that 1.5 mil 6th defenseman we signed in my plan was a fighter.


What happened to Bert??

Emmerton, Miller, and Eaves all need to go. If any of those guys are in the bottom 6 next year this team is in trouble.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:46 AM

#1...blueadams can't post without making out lines. You must play Franchise mode NHL 12 for hours on end.

#1a...your a little bit crazy, no disrespect, but cmon man. Suter, Parise, and Doan? That's nutty even before you declared it somewhat realistic.

#2...Ericsson really surprised me lately. Don't trade him. He was one of our best players in the series. He looked poised and very good defensively. (If any of you know me, you know that this is a big admission. I've thought Ericsson has been terrible for 90% of his time here) If this is the new Big E, he could be a #4 guy. Shutdown ace, like Stuart was 4 years ago but bigger and meaner.


1) It works, numbers-wise.

2) Some people might disagree, but I think Ericsson is a third-pairing defenseman, and I don't think that you can pay third-pairing defensemen three and a half million dollars a season in this new salary capped league.

What happened to Bert??

Emmerton, Miller, and Eaves all need to go. If any of those guys are in the bottom 6 next year this team is in trouble.


I decided to trade Bert instead of Cleary. Cleary, when healthy, can play great on the third line. Bert, IMO, doesn't have the offensive skill for the top six, and he doesn't have the defensive skill for the bottom six. I don't think he fits in.

And those three guys are all cheap and sound defensively. Nothing wrong with that on the fourth line.

Why would Doan leave now?

His team is finally going somewhere in the playoffs.


Why is he one of like four elite free agents to have not resigned already? (The other three, Suter, Parise, Semin). If we start putting a team like this together, and he sees it as a great chance to win a cup finally, I bet he bolts.

So basically, it can happen if the stars align enough to:
1) trade like 4 players (assuming only for picks or prospects since we are taking zero payroll back)
2) sign half the UFA/RFA we have for less money than they are worth (ie Helm $1.4 million for a guy who Babcock has publicly said over and over again makes our entire bottom six, and without him we were f***ed)
3) convince all three top-tier free agents to sign here
4) expect Lidstrom, who is still a better defenseman than Suter despite his age to take $3 million less (or $1 million more than Ericsson)

And all this without moving Franzen. Is this a project for an accounting class or something? Because the probability of one of those deals happening with this team is far too low to even joke about all of them happening.


1) Picks or prospects, sure, why not. Unless you can find something that fits in for them.

2) Helm is the only guy even maybe being underpaid. (points = money, not defense).

3) If we've got the cap space, why not? Miami Heat-ish.

4) He's made enough money in his career now. If it's still about that to him...then, well, damn.

5) Who led our team in goals this season?

Understand where you come from with E, but he's never been too offensive, he's a great defensive piece though.

And if Calgary decide to restructure and rebuild then Iginla is well in contention. They are apparently looking to get younger, he wants nothing to do with a rebuilding Calgary team. Or so the news goes but how often can you trust half the conjecture you hear. Doan would be nice but I think the Yotes will feel they're still in that group of playoff bound teams, especially if they get through round 1 this year. He'll be tough to land.

Think Parise and Suter are gettable (maybe less Suter after last night) but will cost.


Iginla would be dope if available.

And I just don't think you can pay a guy who does what Ericsson does the kind of money he makes.

Edited by blueadams, 21 April 2012 - 11:42 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:59 AM

Why would Doan leave now?

His team is finally going somewhere in the playoffs.





My thoughts exactly...about Suter. Why would he leave? Is he due a raise so it's a cap issue?

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:05 PM

I am sorry but none of those four players are going to be here next year.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:07 PM

Yeah, that's somewhat realistic...


You beat me to it :P

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

What happened to Bert??

Emmerton, Miller, and Eaves all need to go. If any of those guys are in the bottom 6 next year this team is in trouble.



How can you put down Eaves? He's been great for us. Great on the PK, has the compete level that the team has lacked. I know he barely played this year, but you can't flat out forget all that he brings to the table.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

yeah all this could happen in NHL 12 or NHL 13

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:06 PM

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