Tim.D 176 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 Also reported on TSN990 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) Also reported on TSN990 He's through the ridiculous part of it but no shocker really with 10 mill left on it over two years. Crazy he's made so much money. *edit- In the ballpark of 60 Million earned and 169 goals...ouch Edited May 2, 2012 by 13dangledangle 1 lil Wing's fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 Well you can't blame them, hes a shadow of what he used to be. 11 points over last season is just not where he needs to be, damn guy had more PIM than points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 They would still have to take cap hits of 3.5 mil, 4.5 mil, 1.66 mil and 1.66 mil for the next 4 years...OUCH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 I guess not too suprising, he definelty hasn't been the Scott Gomez he was for the Devils years ago. With such a big cap hit even with buying him out you have to wonder if it would be better to just keep him and find a way for him to get his game back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 I guess not too suprising, he definelty hasn't been the Scott Gomez he was for the Devils years ago. With such a big cap hit even with buying him out you have to wonder if it would be better to just keep him and find a way for him to get his game back. He could always fill the water bottles and clean the jocks ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 That's a big mistake as it stands with the CBA right now. While they need to get rid of that albatross of a contract, they might be better served by waiting until the CBA negotiations. I've heard rumors that teams are pushing for an "amnesty clause" allowing one player to be bought out with no penalty. Buying him out now might not give the Habs that option. That said, Bob McKenzie had an interesting idea regarding Gomez too. (Mashed together from several individual tweets). Buying out Gomez's contract, of course, is the dumbest thing any organization could possibly do in a salary cap world. Here's why: MTL could save $3.3M cash by buying out Gomez contract but would have salary cap hits of $3.5M, $4.5M, $1.66M and $1.66M for each of 4 yrs. If MTL sends Gomez to AHL, it frees up $7.3M in cap space each of next two seasons. Price to be paid for that is Gomez's $10M in salary. No organization that has money (MTL, TOR, NYR etc) would or could justify a buyout that would create dead cap space to save a few million $. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 Scott Gomez: Born Dec. 23, 1979. Johan Franzen: Born Dec. 23, 1979. Cue Twilight Zone theme. 6 anthonyn66, 13dangledangle, Supface and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 Don't think this is a shock at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 Scott Gomez: Born Dec. 23, 1979. Johan Franzen: Born Dec. 23, 1979. Cue Twilight Zone theme. If we put their stats side by side too it makes the Mule's 29 goals look like 100! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 ya why not burry this in the minors? the habs can easily afford it. first move by new GM could be a terrible one. I also agree with waiting for new CBA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 He never got the call for the '12 Worlds? Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 They won't buy out his contract and have all that money count towards the cap when they can just bury him in the minors, pay him his salary, and have it not count towards the cap at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.D 176 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 I would honestly be surprised if they do this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) Thought I saw Bob McKenzie saying/TWEETING they WERE NOT going to buy him out after all... Edited May 2, 2012 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 That's a big mistake as it stands with the CBA right now. While they need to get rid of that albatross of a contract, they might be better served by waiting until the CBA negotiations. I've heard rumors that teams are pushing for an "amnesty clause" allowing one player to be bought out with no penalty. Buying him out now might not give the Habs that option. That said, Bob McKenzie had an interesting idea regarding Gomez too. (Mashed together from several individual tweets). With the success of the amensty clause added to the NBA CBA I'm also assuming there will be a push for an amnesty clause. I doubt the NHL equivalent will be as far reaching as the NBA version. NBA teams have no expiration for their amnesty clause-- any player signed before the current CBA came into effect can be amnestied at any time in the future. They won't buy out his contract and have all that money count towards the cap when they can just bury him in the minors, pay him his salary, and have it not count towards the cap at all. See: Blackhawks, Chicago. I expect the new CBA will permanently close that loophole and the one allowing teams to loan undesirable contracts out to European teams with no penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted May 2, 2012 With the success of the amensty clause added to the NBA CBA I'm also assuming there will be a push for an amnesty clause. I doubt the NHL equivalent will be as far reaching as the NBA version. NBA teams have no expiration for their amnesty clause-- any player signed before the current CBA came into effect can be amnestied at any time in the future. See: Blackhawks, Chicago. I expect the new CBA will permanently close that loophole and the one allowing teams to loan undesirable contracts out to European teams with no penalty. Agreed, on both counts. I would expect that if the NHL came up with an amnesty clause, they would try and limit the number of players that could be bought out, or at the very least give a deadline (Say, a week before free agency). If the NHL did come up with an amnesty clause, then the available free agent pool could get more interesting once Parise & Suter sign (wherever they sign). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted May 3, 2012 Thought I saw Bob McKenzie saying/TWEETING they WERE NOT going to buy him out after all... I sure hope you are right. We don't need a Commodore oops Gomez reclamation project going on. If someone did sign him and he turned out to be productive, I would not feel too bad because we could still start the Sean Avery Project. Better not say that too loud, don't want Kenny to hear it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 3, 2012 His career is going the wrong way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted May 3, 2012 Thought I saw Bob McKenzie saying/TWEETING they WERE NOT going to buy him out after all... The closest I've seen is this... Something weird going on in MTL. Habs' website, for a time this a.m., announced team was buying out Scott Gomez's contract. Not there now.Correction, I am now told the Montreal Canadiens' website never reported the buyout. It was apparently another news outlet....in any case.. https://twitter.com/#!/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/197676677587939328 https://twitter.com/#!/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/197678051839049728 So, nothing really saying that they're not going to buy him out. More a case of crossed wires to where the report came from. McKenzie then goes on to extrapolate why buying Gomez out is a mistake at this point, but nothing that solidly refutes the report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) Great news; from Sportsnet: Marc Bergevin on Scott Gomez: "He's a Montreal Canadien, so he'll come here and we'll see what happens. But I'm not buying him out." Edited July 4, 2012 by cusimano_brothers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
