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#61 Drake_Marcus

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:00 PM

Depends on what he wants..does he want more dough or does he want a serious contender each and every year? I mean, we're not the only contender but we'll see. Making $10 mil a year is great but I would assume that winning at least one cup is more important to a lot of this talent.

Holland can give him 10mil because he's one of only a small group of GMs who have owners that are willing to pay out on huge long term contracts AND has more than enough cap room to do so , all while being able to offer an environment that NHLPA polls indicates is highly desirable to players around the league. (and no, I don't care that cougar denies the results of said poll)

Yes there are 30 teams who will want to take a run at Parise but only a handful have a realistic shot of landing him unless he's only looking for a short term deal or isn't interested in winning.

I don't thing we have Parise locked down but the Wings are in a better position than most teams. Not signing him would cause a great deal of drama online but it's not like we'd be losing out on a generational talent. There are plenty of ways to improve the team outside of the 2012 UFAs.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:20 PM

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:31 PM

Holland can give him 10mil because he's one of only a small group of GMs who have owners that are willing to pay out on huge long term contracts AND has more than enough cap room to do so , all while being able to offer an environment that NHLPA polls indicates is highly desirable to players around the league. (and no, I don't care that cougar denies the results of said poll)

Yes there are 30 teams who will want to take a run at Parise but only a handful have a realistic shot of landing him unless he's only looking for a short term deal or isn't interested in winning.

I don't thing we have Parise locked down but the Wings are in a better position than most teams. Not signing him would cause a great deal of drama online but it's not like we'd be losing out on a generational talent. There are plenty of ways to improve the team outside of the 2012 UFAs.


I think we can all agree $10mil is a ridiculous number. He won't get paid that much. Even if he was offered that, Ken Holland would never pay that much.

There are a number of teams in good position to sign him which is why I think that the bidding will ultimately get too high for Holland and unless he wants to take a substantial pay cut (1-2 mil) to play here, he will be elsewhere.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:40 PM

Seems that Mr. Parise has something of a man crush on the rangers coach...... At least that is what he and his dad had to deny..........

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:08 AM

While I think Parise will be a highly sought after UFA regardless, his post season performance recently isn't doing himself any favors. He has just 1 goal in his last 7 games and 1 point in his last 5 games. Combine that with the fact that he went from a 45 goal scorer in 2009 to 38 in 2011, to 31 this past year, these "give him whatever he wants" statements are looking rather ludicrous. People get all over Franzen's case and statistically he's been pretty similar to Parise and he's a $3.9 cap hit.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:06 AM

I think realistcally he should sign somewhere for $6M-$8M, but there are going to be those certain teams that throw an outrageous offer at him to try to steal him...it's up to him to decide whether he wants to walk away from a $2M-$3M difference to have a legit chance to win...unfortunately for us, there are more teams out there now that have a legit chance, and then some Cinderella stories (LA) that could pop up as well...I would HATE to see him sign in St. Louis or Chicago or s***sburgh, that's for sure! All of which would hate to see him sign in Detroit...Gonna be a nerve racking day on July 1st! It's a Sunday, so I will have to work, my phone is going to be on overdrive!

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:18 PM

I think realistcally he should sign somewhere for $6M-$8M, but there are going to be those certain teams that throw an outrageous offer at him to try to steal him...it's up to him to decide whether he wants to walk away from a $2M-$3M difference to have a legit chance to win...unfortunately for us, there are more teams out there now that have a legit chance, and then some Cinderella stories (LA) that could pop up as well...I would HATE to see him sign in St. Louis or Chicago or s***sburgh, that's for sure! All of which would hate to see him sign in Detroit...Gonna be a nerve racking day on July 1st! It's a Sunday, so I will have to work, my phone is going to be on overdrive!



I would doubt that he goes to the Pens. if by chance he does, it says a lot about Crosby's health. Crosby and Staal are both UFA next season, and they are going to have issues keeping both as it is.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:42 AM

If the Devils make it to cup finals.... Does Parise stay with them?
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:16 AM

If the Devils make it to cup finals.... Does Parise stay with them?

All depends on the team's financial stability I think. The long playoff run will probably help, but at one point they were on track to lose around $20 million this season. Plus the owner might be forced to sell the team next season if they can't lock in financing to cover their $80m in debt they defaulted on. If Parise really wants long-term stability & a chance at The Cup every year, New Jersey doesn't sound like the place to me.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:23 PM

If the Devils make it to cup finals.... Does Parise stay with them?


I think Parise is gone no matter what. The money/stability isn't there in NJ.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:40 PM

I think Parise is gone no matter what. The money/stability isn't there in NJ.

Agreed.

For all we know Parise (or Suter) could end up in Edmonton.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:41 AM

Agreed.

For all we know Parise (or Suter) could end up in Edmonton.

Whoa, hang on there...Edmonton? That's like saying Parise and/or Suter could wind up in the KHL next year.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:27 PM

It's weird, Parise and Suter. I can realistically see it going any one of the four possible ways (we get both; we get neither; we get Parise but not Suter; we get Suter but not Parise).

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 09:33 PM

I am no longer getting my hopes up for either, that way when it doesn't happen, I will not blow a gasket...(too much)

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:25 PM

If the Devils win the cup how much, if any, does that detract from your interest in Parise?

He's a great player. At the same time I want star players who are desperate for a championship.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:49 PM

If the Devils win the cup how much, if any, does that detract from your interest in Parise?

He's a great player. At the same time I want star players who are desperate for a championship.


Definitely see your point and I agree with the desperation portion a great deal. I think it's pretty evident now the Red Wings need some new blood that has not won previously. However, Parise does not strike me as a player that is going to get complacent from winning a championship or signing a new contract. He's a leader -- he works hard all of the time, much like Datsyuk and Zetterberg do for the Red Wings.

So I guess my answer is not at all. I somewhat feel the Devils going deep isn't a good thing for the chances of landing Parise, but if he does make it to free agency, I still view him as the top priority.
 
 
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 05:42 AM

Agreed.

For all we know Parise (or Suter) could end up in Edmonton.


Edmonton doesn't need offense they need defense so if anything, they'd want to go after Suter.

Edited by Hockeymom1960, 24 May 2012 - 05:44 AM.


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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:34 AM

If the Devils win the cup how much, if any, does that detract from your interest in Parise?

He's a great player. At the same time I want star players who are desperate for a championship.

Yeah, that's exactly why I wouldn't want an Evgeni Malkin or Zdeno Chara on the team. Clearly they're just coasting now that they've won a Cup. Give me a whole team of Phil Kessel's instead. I'm sure he's hungry for a Cup...or maybe a cheeseburger. :blink:

So no, Parise winning a Cup this year would have absolutely zero chance of reducing my interest in the Wings signing him. If anything, wouldn't grabbing a team captain of a Stanley Cup winning team who is entering the prime of his career raise your interest level? No? Really?

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:29 PM

If the Devils win the cup how much, if any, does that detract from your interest in Parise?

He's a great player. At the same time I want star players who are desperate for a championship.


Not at all. He's one of those guys that just loves the game and wants to win all the time. Perfect fit for our organization. He's hungry constantly, kind of like Toews. You can kind of tell the ones who like money and fame (etc.) compared to he ones who love hockey. Parise seems like a flat-out hockey nerd. If he wins the cup this year (doubtful, LA is far too strong at this point, but thats another thread) I feel as though that would only make him hungrier.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:48 PM

Definitely see your point and I agree with the desperation portion a great deal. I think it's pretty evident now the Red Wings need some new blood that has not won previously. However, Parise does not strike me as a player that is going to get complacent from winning a championship or signing a new contract. He's a leader -- he works hard all of the time, much like Datsyuk and Zetterberg do for the Red Wings.


It would be a fair concern for me but that doesn't mean I'd pass on him entirely.

He really would be awesome with both Pav and Z. Sometimes I feel like Parise is a better fit with Zetterberg 5 on 5 and then maybe with Datsyuk on the power play. 5 on 5 though, a team would have to worry about both funneling pucks to the net and/or crashing the net, which could leave a lot of room for another shooter like Mule to do some real damage.

Not at all. He's one of those guys that just loves the game and wants to win all the time. Perfect fit for our organization. He's hungry constantly, kind of like Toews. You can kind of tell the ones who like money and fame (etc.) compared to he ones who love hockey. Parise seems like a flat-out hockey nerd. If he wins the cup this year (doubtful, LA is far too strong at this point, but thats another thread) I feel as though that would only make him hungrier.


If he loses in the finals then yeah I can see that really pissing off a player.





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