Jump to content


Photo
* * * * * 1 votes

Chances of landing Parise?


  • Please log in to reply
122 replies to this topic

#81 ozone923

ozone923

    Top Prospect

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 56 posts
  • Location:Toronto

Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:07 PM

If he loses in the finals then yeah I can see that really pissing off a player.


Even if he wins, he will want more. Getting that first taste will lose its flavour quicker than he anticipated.



CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Damien Brunner ($1.350m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.200m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

#82 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

St. Michael (the Red Wing)

    Heavenly With the Puck

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,822 posts
  • Location:Mankato, MN

Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:41 PM

Unfortunately now if the Devils win it all regardless of their "financial crisis" coming up. I think the Devils somehow keep Parise. He's their Captain and has been for awhile right? With Brodeur coming back to New Jersey next season (maybe) makes me think New Jersey will probably try desperately hard to keep Parise. Either way his value obviously is going up more than 7 million with pretty much the whole league interested. Not saying Kenny can't get him either but it's going to be tough. I was hoping the Devils would have been out of the playoffs early......eh.

#83 ozone923

ozone923

    Top Prospect

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 56 posts
  • Location:Toronto

Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:56 PM

Unfortunately now if the Devils win it all regardless of their "financial crisis" coming up. I think the Devils somehow keep Parise. He's their Captain and has been for awhile right? With Brodeur coming back to New Jersey next season (maybe) makes me think New Jersey will probably try desperately hard to keep Parise. Either way his value obviously is going up more than 7 million with pretty much the whole league interested. Not saying Kenny can't get him either but it's going to be tough. I was hoping the Devils would have been out of the playoffs early......eh.


With the possibility that the chances lower the farther the Devils go, I still find myself cheering for them. I hate the Rangers. Bums.



CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Damien Brunner ($1.350m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.200m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

#84 centcougar07

centcougar07

    Rookie

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 139 posts

Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:43 PM

Unfortunately now if the Devils win it all regardless of their "financial crisis" coming up. I think the Devils somehow keep Parise. He's their Captain and has been for awhile right? With Brodeur coming back to New Jersey next season (maybe) makes me think New Jersey will probably try desperately hard to keep Parise. Either way his value obviously is going up more than 7 million with pretty much the whole league interested. Not saying Kenny can't get him either but it's going to be tough. I was hoping the Devils would have been out of the playoffs early......eh.


No, he has only been captain for one year (this year).

#85 HadThomasVokounOnFortSt

HadThomasVokounOnFortSt

    Hi

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,066 posts
  • Location:Cloudy Town, Minnesota. 762.20 miles from the Joe Louis Arena

Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:58 AM

You know, who doesn't get brought up, Minnesota. He is from Minneapolis..
hadthomasvokounonfortst.jpg
Follow me on Twitter: @W2G4U

#86 centcougar07

centcougar07

    Rookie

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 139 posts

Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

You know, who doesn't get brought up, Minnesota. He is from Minneapolis..


Minnesota gets brought up among potential suitors. They will make a substantial offer. There's a good chance they land him IMO.

#87 ozone923

ozone923

    Top Prospect

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 56 posts
  • Location:Toronto

Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:58 PM

Minnesota gets brought up among potential suitors. They will make a substantial offer. There's a good chance they land him IMO.


Put yourself in his shoes. Do you want to join the likes of amazing talent like Dany Heatley and Devin Setoguchi? Sarcasm intended. Especially if he doesn't win the cup, he will want to go somewhere that has a chance in the next 459827 years.



CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Damien Brunner ($1.350m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.200m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

#88 centcougar07

centcougar07

    Rookie

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 139 posts

Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:58 PM

Put yourself in his shoes. Do you want to join the likes of amazing talent like Dany Heatley and Devin Setoguchi? Sarcasm intended. Especially if he doesn't win the cup, he will want to go somewhere that has a chance in the next 459827 years.




I've said it before but I'll say it again, Minnesota has some of the best prospects in the league and a lineup that, when healthy, was the top team in the league points wise. They have a very deep, very talented prospect pool. So even only a third of them live up to expectations, they are going to be a very, very good team in about 2 years. And I think it's reasonable to say that very rarely do prospects end up being complete and total busts when they are as highly touted as Minnesota's are. Mikael Granlund just signed with them and he's been called by many the best hockey player outside of the NHL. So without going too deep into that (because I could go deeper), I'll just say that Minnesota has a great future ahead of them. Their stock is rising and Detroit's is falling IMHO. Plus they have the cap space to sign big time players and they will continue to have a lot of cap space in the future when they get rid of certain contracts on their roster (i.e. Backstrom, Cullen, etc.). They will probably make the biggest offer in a monetary sense. I think they will be big players and certainly have a great chance to sign Parise.

Plus I suppose it doesn't hurt that they have the hometown draw. Parise's got a hot new wife and they just bought a new house out there last summer. I'm sure he'd love to come home to her after a 3 point night. Posted Image

#89 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

St. Michael (the Red Wing)

    Heavenly With the Puck

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,822 posts
  • Location:Mankato, MN

Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:32 PM

You know, who doesn't get brought up, Minnesota. He is from Minneapolis..


He's actually from Faribault MN.

#90 Salviaman

Salviaman

    Tool + Red Wings = Bliss

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,284 posts
  • Location:Northville, Michigan

Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:51 PM

Devils win

Chances of him coming to Detroit as of now?
Think for yourself. Question authority. Throughout human history as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are or where we are going in this ocean of chance, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself.

#91 HadThomasVokounOnFortSt

HadThomasVokounOnFortSt

    Hi

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,066 posts
  • Location:Cloudy Town, Minnesota. 762.20 miles from the Joe Louis Arena

Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:03 PM

He's actually from Faribault MN.


Oh my fault, I was going off what a friend (Wild fan) said. Silly me..
hadthomasvokounonfortst.jpg
Follow me on Twitter: @W2G4U

#92 GoWings1905

GoWings1905

    Legend

  • Gold Booster
  • 5,226 posts

Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:10 PM

Devils win

Chances of him coming to Detroit as of now?


Just went way down IMO. If the Devils lose, Parise has the motivation to see how close they were and may want to finish the job. If they win, it may be tough to pry a player away from a team coming off a championship.

I guess everything still revolves around the money situation, but it would have been more ideal if the Devils went out in the first round.
 
 
"To whom much is given, much is expected."
 
 

 

 

 

 


#93 brett

brett

    Hall-of-Famer

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,974 posts
  • Location:NJ

Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:23 PM

ZIP now. whos next on the list

Edited by brett, 25 May 2012 - 10:23 PM.


#94 SaCkaveli20

SaCkaveli20

    1st Line All-Star

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,085 posts
  • Location:Woodstock, Ontario

Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:24 PM

If he wins the cup in jersey, he has nothing left to prove there...we'll get him...don't worry guys :)

#95 13dangledangle

13dangledangle

    1st Line All-Star

  • Silver Booster
  • 1,792 posts
  • Location:Port Hope, Ont.

Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:51 PM

I am going to assume that he stays put win or lose here. Regardless I so look forward to these finals...LA has kicked ass and the Devils have been a shocker as every round I thought they'd be done for sure...
....Ladies and Gentlemen Jimmy "F%$*ing" Howard.

#96 ozone923

ozone923

    Top Prospect

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 56 posts
  • Location:Toronto

Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:03 AM

I've said it before but I'll say it again, Minnesota has some of the best prospects in the league and a lineup that, when healthy, was the top team in the league points wise. They have a very deep, very talented prospect pool. So even only a third of them live up to expectations, they are going to be a very, very good team in about 2 years. And I think it's reasonable to say that very rarely do prospects end up being complete and total busts when they are as highly touted as Minnesota's are. Mikael Granlund just signed with them and he's been called by many the best hockey player outside of the NHL. So without going too deep into that (because I could go deeper), I'll just say that Minnesota has a great future ahead of them. Their stock is rising and Detroit's is falling IMHO. Plus they have the cap space to sign big time players and they will continue to have a lot of cap space in the future when they get rid of certain contracts on their roster (i.e. Backstrom, Cullen, etc.). They will probably make the biggest offer in a monetary sense. I think they will be big players and certainly have a great chance to sign Parise.

Plus I suppose it doesn't hurt that they have the hometown draw. Parise's got a hot new wife and they just bought a new house out there last summer. I'm sure he'd love to come home to her after a 3 point night. Posted Image


Im sure its at least 50% because of my bias, but I just don't see it happening.

1. What would you rather do? Put on a jersey that screams world-class, or put on a jersey that screams we try but never make it? It means more to push a dynasty to its limits than attempt to start a team that doesn't have a proven management and organization (regardless of up-and-comers, its all about how you keep it running. There are a bunch of teams out there now that sucked so bad they got good)

2. Minnesota will offer big money to the pair of Parise and Suter, but will sacrifice the teams future if they end up paying it... (with Heatley making 7.5 mil for the next few years, and Koivu making 6.75) as they will have to pay their future up-and-comers a good amount of coin after their entry-level contracts. That also includes the fact that Parise and Suter would want long-term contracts. Detroit's name demands salary drops because of the tradition, thus making it the more likely landing spot salary wise. I do not believe either Parise or Suter would want a million or two more per year to take a risk greater than the one they would be taking going to Detroit.

3. Dany Heatley. Nuff said. This guy brings down teams morales single-handedly. Pure garbage teammate, pure garbage work ethic.

P.S. It was actually Radulov who was called the best outside of the NHL, and we saw his amazing work ethic in round 2 against Phoenix... lulz. Not to say anything directly about Granlund though.

To conclude: I see the possibility only because of the hometown relevance and 'hot-wife-3-point-night-back-in-Minnesota-about-to-become-4-point-night-argument' only. :D



CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Damien Brunner ($1.350m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.200m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

#97 pucktividi

pucktividi

    the usual suspect

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,330 posts
  • Location:Croatia

Posted 26 May 2012 - 11:18 AM

It's kinda fascinating how some people are excited about other team's 5'10/5'11 euro prospects and yet ours are all skinny,undersized and soft :lol:

#98 Konnan511

Konnan511

    #FreePulkkinen

  • HoF Booster
  • 10,295 posts
  • Location:Traverse City, Mi

Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:02 PM

1338007865[/url]' post='2303312']
I am going to assume that he stays put win or lose here. Regardless I so look forward to these finals...LA has kicked ass and the Devils have been a shocker as every round I thought they'd be done for sure...


The Devils won't be able to retain him, though, not with their substantial debt.
The Best Of BC
HankthaTank
- Squirrels, they hate to be thrown. / Why is the magical unicorn named Brian... Jedi - I just downloaded the "kids" book, "Go the F--k to Sleep" as narrated by Samuel L. Jackson on my kindle. I am now ready to be a daddy. / *Checks Router* No, I'm positive I didn't hit the "Wings Defense Sucks" button. Electrophile - I'm just glad the Wings were able to win despite the Curse of Brian. ACallToArms - I think Trey needs to put something about payroll tax and deferred income in his sig... Edicius - I'd rather [have] a soundbite of me saying "I like (man sausage)" rather than "I like Crosby".

#99 centcougar07

centcougar07

    Rookie

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 139 posts

Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:25 PM

He's actually from Faribault MN.


No he's from Minneapolis. He went to school for a year or two in Faribault at Shattuck St. Mary's. But he was born and raised in the Twin Cities.

#100 centcougar07

centcougar07

    Rookie

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 139 posts

Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:43 PM

Im sure its at least 50% because of my bias, but I just don't see it happening.

1. What would you rather do? Put on a jersey that screams world-class, or put on a jersey that screams we try but never make it? It means more to push a dynasty to its limits than attempt to start a team that doesn't have a proven management and organization (regardless of up-and-comers, its all about how you keep it running. There are a bunch of teams out there now that sucked so bad they got good)

2. Minnesota will offer big money to the pair of Parise and Suter, but will sacrifice the teams future if they end up paying it... (with Heatley making 7.5 mil for the next few years, and Koivu making 6.75) as they will have to pay their future up-and-comers a good amount of coin after their entry-level contracts. That also includes the fact that Parise and Suter would want long-term contracts. Detroit's name demands salary drops because of the tradition, thus making it the more likely landing spot salary wise. I do not believe either Parise or Suter would want a million or two more per year to take a risk greater than the one they would be taking going to Detroit.

3. Dany Heatley. Nuff said. This guy brings down teams morales single-handedly. Pure garbage teammate, pure garbage work ethic.

P.S. It was actually Radulov who was called the best outside of the NHL, and we saw his amazing work ethic in round 2 against Phoenix... lulz. Not to say anything directly about Granlund though.

To conclude: I see the possibility only because of the hometown relevance and 'hot-wife-3-point-night-back-in-Minnesota-about-to-become-4-point-night-argument' only. :D




I wouldn't say Minnesota isn't a classy organization. Sure they haven't accomplished much but they also have only been in the league for 12 year, Detroit has a few on them I believe. And they've really only had a competent GM for 3 of those years (the past 3). I think they've done an outstanding job of drafting and making trades the past few years and have built the team the right way, from the ground up.

As I said Minnesota will have plenty of cap space to work with this year and in the coming years. Bouchard and Backstrom will be off the books next year as well as a couple of old buyouts. And Heatley will be off by the time most of their prospects entry deals come to an end. And I think Cullen comes off sometime soon as well. So the only big contract they will have left is Koivu's at 6.5 a year and while I think that's overpayment, they shouldn't have a problem with money anytime soon.

And everything I heard from Minnesota this past year (coaches, teammates, FO, etc.) says that Dany Heatley has been a model teammate and role model. So much so that they gave him the 'A' after only the first month of him being there. Apparently his work ethic has been killer. So I don't know, maybe he's cleaned up his act for good. Because they said the same things in San Jose.

Except Radulov isn't outside the NHL anymore. Plus he's Russian so it doesn't count. We know how lazy those damn commies are.

And yes the hometown draw will probably have a lot more to do with it than people think. His whole family is there, that has to be a draw. If I was him I'd love to play in a place like Minnesota will borderline insane passion for the game of hockey as a whole, on and up and coming team, all while being hailed as 'God' by many fans and getting to spend all of the holidays and what-not with family. Not to mention testing the durability and functionality of all the furniture in my brand new house with my smoking hot wife....Posted Image





Similar Topics Collapse

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users