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#101 LeftWinger

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:49 PM

Ugh....I think even if they lose in the finals, he gets convinced that they were so close that he then will re-sign in NJ to try it again with the same team. I hope not...but man every game they win stabs me more and more in the heart...

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 03:08 PM

I've said it before but I'll say it again, Minnesota has some of the best prospects in the league and a lineup that, when healthy, was the top team in the league points wise. They have a very deep, very talented prospect pool. So even only a third of them live up to expectations, they are going to be a very, very good team in about 2 years. And I think it's reasonable to say that very rarely do prospects end up being complete and total busts when they are as highly touted as Minnesota's are. Mikael Granlund just signed with them and he's been called by many the best hockey player outside of the NHL. So without going too deep into that (because I could go deeper), I'll just say that Minnesota has a great future ahead of them. Their stock is rising and Detroit's is falling IMHO. Plus they have the cap space to sign big time players and they will continue to have a lot of cap space in the future when they get rid of certain contracts on their roster (i.e. Backstrom, Cullen, etc.). They will probably make the biggest offer in a monetary sense. I think they will be big players and certainly have a great chance to sign Parise.

Plus I suppose it doesn't hurt that they have the hometown draw. Parise's got a hot new wife and they just bought a new house out there last summer. I'm sure he'd love to come home to her after a 3 point night. Posted Image


LOL our prospect pool is ranked higher than Minnys....The wild's prospect pool isn't even ranked among the top 15

Edit: did a little more digging and found that ESPN (not that they know anything about hockey) has Minnys prospect pool ranked among the top 15.....yet they still had the wings farm ranked higher :)

Edited by number9, 26 May 2012 - 03:21 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 03:30 PM

LOL our prospect pool is ranked higher than Minnys....The wild's prospect pool isn't even ranked among the top 15

Edit: did a little more digging and found that ESPN (not that they know anything about hockey) has Minnys prospect pool ranked among the top 15.....yet they still had the wings farm ranked higher :)


And as I've said before those lists aren't updated. They also have Ryan Nugent-Hopkins as the #1 overall prospect. And he's not a prospect anymore so.... Not very credible. Same with ESPN. Not only that but what does ESPN know about hockey? They show about 1 hockey highlight every 2 months.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:19 PM

And as I've said before those lists aren't updated. They also have Ryan Nugent-Hopkins as the #1 overall prospect. And he's not a prospect anymore so.... Not very credible. Same with ESPN. Not only that but what does ESPN know about hockey? They show about 1 hockey highlight every 2 months.


hence why i said "not that they know anything about hockey"....there the only ones who put Minny in the top 15

And no, Im referring to 2011-2012 post season rankings....so yeah....

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:49 PM

hence why i said "not that they know anything about hockey"....there the only ones who put Minny in the top 15

And no, Im referring to 2011-2012 post season rankings....so yeah....


I see only one source. That being hfboards. I went to look at the Minnesota and Detroit write up. They have Colton Gillies as "lost to graduation" on Minnesota's write up. But he was cut by them halfway through the season.. That tells me that this was probably written a long time ago.

EDIT: haha.. Yeah I just read the HF rankings from last year and compared them to this "2011-2012 post-season" set of rankings and they are word for word the same. Hardly credible.

Edited by centcougar07, 26 May 2012 - 05:04 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:13 PM

I see only one source. That being hfboards. I went to look at the Minnesota and Detroit write up. They have Colton Gillies as "lost to graduation" on Minnesota's write up. But he was cut by them halfway through the season.. That tells me that this was probably written a long time ago.

EDIT: haha.. Yeah I just read the HF rankings from last year and compared them to this "2011-2012 post-season" set of rankings and they are word for word the same. Hardly credible.


I dont use the HF boards.....off to pull up some sources for you

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

http://www.hockeypro...?articleid=1012
Detroit #1 and Minnesota #13, but its 2011 which I'm sure you'll be mad about.

"Hockey Futures" hasn't changed if that's what your referring to, because not much of anything has changed in rankings besides i think Calgary's prospect pool moving up 4 spots and Boston moving up a few spots.

I wouldn't use the boards.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:54 PM

At this stage I say the only way he comes here is if they lose convincingly in the finals and Parise indivually plays terribly enough to be a primary scapegoat for their failure ... 0-goals, 1 assist, and a -5 in a 5 game series would likely accomplish that haha. Don't see it happening, but the only way he even looks elsewhere is if he somehow becomes the Devils Roberto Luongo and becomes the franchises whipping boy for an untimely beds***ting.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 07:24 PM

I hate to say it but I think the better the Devils do in the playoffs the less chance we have of bringing him here or even the Devils letting him go anywhere, and the Devs are in the Cup Finals so I can't see him going anywhere.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:04 PM

http://www.hockeypro...?articleid=1012
Detroit #1 and Minnesota #13, but its 2011 which I'm sure you'll be mad about.

"Hockey Futures" hasn't changed if that's what your referring to, because not much of anything has changed in rankings besides i think Calgary's prospect pool moving up 4 spots and Boston moving up a few spots.

I wouldn't use the boards.


Yes another article. Even older. There's been a whole entire year to view and reevaluate prospects. And it looks to me like it was written by one guy who seems to think very highly of average to slightly above average players. And HF literally used word for word the same writeups and called it "new".

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:17 PM

No he's from Minneapolis. He went to school for a year or two in Faribault at Shattuck St. Mary's. But he was born and raised in the Twin Cities.


That's what I thought..

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:27 PM

No he's from Minneapolis. He went to school for a year or two in Faribault at Shattuck St. Mary's. But he was born and raised in the Twin Cities.


He was born in Minneapolis but moved to Faribault in 89. Look it up. Meaning he wasnt born and raised in Minneapolis.

Drives me insane when people say oh he's from wherever when they dont have af****** clue where he's from and are going just by assumption.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:42 PM

He was born in Minneapolis but moved to Faribault in 89. Look it up. Meaning he wasnt born and raised in Minneapolis.

Drives me insane when people say oh he's from wherever when they dont have af****** clue where he's from and are going just by assumption.

Much like when everyone was saying Suter was from Minni also...I agree with you 100%!

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 03:53 PM

Yes another article. Even older. There's been a whole entire year to view and reevaluate prospects. And it looks to me like it was written by one guy who seems to think very highly of average to slightly above average players. And HF literally used word for word the same writeups and called it "new".


average to slightly above average players? wings players? blasphemy.

"not much of anything has changed in rankings besides i think Calgary's prospect pool moving up 4 spots and Boston moving up a few spots."

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:28 AM

He was born in Minneapolis but moved to Faribault in 89. Look it up. Meaning he wasnt born and raised in Minneapolis.

Drives me insane when people say oh he's from wherever when they dont have af****** clue where he's from and are going just by assumption.


Im not going by assumption. I'm going by Zach Parise himself saying it when he was talking about Minnesota and where he grew up on a radio interview. He spent about 3 and a half years in Faribault when he played for Shattuck before he went to North Dakota. Look it up.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:03 AM

Im not going by assumption. I'm going by Zach Parise himself saying it when he was talking about Minnesota and where he grew up on a radio interview. He spent about 3 and a half years in Faribault when he played for Shattuck before he went to North Dakota. Look it up.


I did look it up. So when his dad J.P took over as hockey director at Shattuck St. Mary's in 1989, Zach didnt move there or anything? I did look it up. It's funny how i can look up a radio interview you "supposedly" heard. Yeah Zach played at Shattuck and was one of my biggest rivals in high school hockey. Culver Military Academy is where I went (same place as Ryan Suter for 2 years) and I know all about Shattuck and those big names that have attended there. I live close to Faribault now too. Yes. Apparently you dont but keep posting lies on here its cool. You need cred. Cheers

Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 28 May 2012 - 11:19 AM.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:17 PM

I did look it up. So when his dad J.P took over as hockey director at Shattuck St. Mary's in 1989, Zach didnt move there or anything? I did look it up. It's funny how i can look up a radio interview you "supposedly" heard. Yeah Zach played at Shattuck and was one of my biggest rivals in high school hockey. Culver Military Academy is where I went (same place as Ryan Suter for 2 years) and I know all about Shattuck and those big names that have attended there. I live close to Faribault now too. Yes. Apparently you dont but keep posting lies on here its cool. You need cred. Cheers


No he lived in the cities till he enrolled at Shattuck.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 09:47 AM

Heard the Rangers will be pushing very hard for Parise's services.

I could see him going there. (Really, who wouldn't love to play for an NYC team?)

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:02 AM

Heard the Rangers will be pushing very hard for Parise's services.

I could see him going there. (Really, who wouldn't love to play for an NYC team?)


You can really grow your brand in NYC If you care about such things. Although I can't really recall many of today's hockey players who are too obnoxious about their brands except for the usual suspects.

Although I think Tortorella is the top coach that players DON'T want to play for iirc. I'm not sure why but I remember that result from a player poll. If I had to guess it's probably because his kind of yelling, if done recklessly and too often, can really lose a locker room. So you have to consider that.

I still think Pavel and Z are perfect fits as centerman for Parise. Especially the playoff version of Zetterberg.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:53 AM

Heard the Rangers will be pushing very hard for Parise's services.

I could see him going there. (Really, who wouldn't love to play for an NYC team?)


Rangers have 49 Million locked up in 15 players next year. If the cap ends up somewhere around 70 Million (which I've heard Holland say is the number the Wings are going to use until told otherwise) that leaves them 21 Million to sign 8 players. Del Zotto is one of them and he'll command 4-5 Million. This leaves 16 M roughly to sign 7 players. If Parise and Suter are a package, no way the Rags can afford them. Parise alone maybe, but that would leave you with only 9 Million to sign 6 players. Do-able I suppose, but it kind of screws with your overall depth.

Edited by rick zombo, 29 May 2012 - 11:54 AM.

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