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#141 Original-Six

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:36 PM

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Wow, was I ever wrong. Can't believe it. 90s era wings is all but officially over. Wow.
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Im not sure if I should be more wowed that its ending, or that we still had multiple players from 96. Sad to see the last players from that 97 cup team go.
Glad I got to watch and enjoy Lidstrom's entire career in all its glory.

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#142 Nightfall

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:49 PM

Here is an article from ESPN Insider I thought was interesting.

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There was a stretch of games late in the Detroit Red Wings' season that Nicklas Lidstrom sat out because of an injured foot. He missed a good majority of March, not surprisingly a month in which the Red Wings struggled to string together wins.

One scout watching Detroit play during that time turned to the guy sitting next to him and made an observation many of us were thinking.

"This is a different hockey club without Lidstrom," he said.

And now, we find out how different.

As reported by colleague Pierre LeBrun, Lidstrom will announce his retirement on Thursday morning during a news conference in Detroit, immediately starting the clock on his entry to the Hall of Fame. He'll go down as the best defenseman of his generation and one of the best of all time.

He's not a player you replace in one offseason.

"He's the heartbeat, the backbone of their hockey club," said an NHL scout. "He's Denis Potvin of the New York Islanders. He's Larry Robinson of the Montreal Canadiens. You don't replace those guys. There's been many, many great defensemen over the years and he's one. You don't replace these guys."

They'll have to try.

The Red Wings were shaky without Lidstrom this season and not that much better when he was playing hurt during the playoffs, as evidenced by their five-game exit at the hands of the Nashville Predators. The advantage the Wings have now is time.

As you would expect from a class act like Lidstrom, he has given Detroit plenty of notice to move to Plan B. And it's something Ken Holland and his management staff have been working toward for years. It may be painful, but it's not like Detroit is being blindsided. And one former Wing sees a strong group of young defensemen who will try to step up to fill the hole.

"Sitting from outside now and looking in when we assess other organizations and their depth, they have some excellent young players not in the NHL coming forward, Brendan Smith and whatnot coming in," former Lidstrom teammate and current Tampa Bay Lightning GM Steve Yzerman told ESPN.com at Thursday's GM meetings. "They're going to be a strong organization. It's going to take time to rebuild your defense when you lose a player of that caliber, if they do lose him. But I still analyze their organization like we do everybody else and there's good players coming up from within."

When I spoke with Holland in early September about the possibility of replacing Lidstrom, he was very realistic about the process.

"Nick Lidstrom is one of the three, four or five best defensemen to play the game in the 90-year history of the National Hockey League," he said at the time. "We're not replacing Nick Lidstrom. I don't know if there's a Nick Lidstrom in the league."

Holland pointed out that the Red Wings had been stockpiling young defensemen through the draft, including the talented Smith, to help ease the transition. Smith will play in Detroit next season. Acquiring Kyle Quincey at the trade deadline was another move that was made with one eye on today and another on the future.
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Ryan SuterJohn Russell/Getty ImagesThe Red Wings will likely press hard to sign free agent Ryan Suter.

In September, Holland also reminded me that money won't be an issue in rebuilding the blue line.

"We've got cap space," he said. "We're obviously going to be involved more actively in the unrestricted free agent market than we have been the last couple years."

Which brings us to Ryan Suter. Suter was already on the Red Wings' radar, but now he becomes a must-sign for Detroit if he opts not to stay with Nashville. With Lidstrom's retirement along with the likely departure of Brad Stuart to a team closer to his home in California, Detroit is flush with cap space. According to CapGeek.com, the Red Wings have over $20 million in cap space, which is more than enough to sign Suter and New Jersey Devils wing, and impending free agent, Zach Parise.

Suter isn't Lidstrom but ...

"I think he's the closest," said one NHL scout. "Suter can do it all. He's in the prime of his career, or just reaching the prime of his career. The need in Detroit becomes very strong."

It also makes Detroit an interesting option for Justin Schultz, the talented University of Wisconsin defenseman who still hasn't signed with the Ducks. Chances are he won't, which means he'll hit the market as a free agent who will draw as much interest as anyone this offseason.

The competition for him will be intense, but Schultz may be intrigued by the possibility of being part of the next wave of young defensemen in Detroit. If Holland can put together a defense for next season that includes Suter, Niklas Kronwall, Ian White, Jonathan Ericsson, Jakub Kindl, Smith, Quincey and Schultz, the Wings are in great shape. But unlike when they watched Yzerman step away, there isn't an heir apparent ready to take Lidstrom's mantle as the Red Wings' lead blueliner.

"It was a little bit different when I retired," Yzerman said. "You had Pav [Pavel Datsyuk] and Hank [Henrik Zetterberg] -- two center men just hitting their prime. I think it's fair to say and it's by no means a criticism, but they don't have Pav or Hank on the blue line ready to step in. It's still a good group of defensemen. And they're smart and resourceful, they'll have a good defense next year.''

Either way, it's going to be a team effort to replace Lidstrom, even if part of that team is someone as talented as Suter.

"No doubt. The pressure of somebody trying to take on those minutes -- they have to disperse those minutes amongst the group and include the guys they add via trades or free agency," said an NHL source. "You can't sign one guy and replace Nick Lidstrom. That poor guy has no chance. No chance."
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:55 PM

As an Australian I'm not great with the time differences. The conference being 11am in Detroit, just wondering what time of the morning I need to make sure I'm awake for. It's currently 8:51am.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:00 PM

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THIS!!!

Saddened, joyful, proud, honored. THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES NICK!!! I can't believe it's over. I can't believe we have had so many legends play in just the last 20 years. How fortunate are we? Keep it up Kenny and gang! Your hand is now forced!

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:04 PM

[quote name='Z and D for the C' timestamp='1338415649' post='2303954']
Wow, was I ever wrong. Can't believe it. 90s era wings is all but officially over. Wow.
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This is making me feel really old.

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Hard to believe this really was the last time he'd step off the ice in a Wings jersey. I'm going to go cry in my beer now. :crybaby:

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#146 LeftWinger

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:05 PM

[quote name='AusWing40' timestamp='1338418512' post='2303997']
As an Australian I'm not great with the time differences. The conference being 11am in Detroit, just wondering what time of the morning I need to make sure I'm awake for. It's currently 8:51am.
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Well, right in Detroit it is 7:05 PM...looks like 10 hours earlier there maybe?

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:11 PM

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Well, right in Detroit it is 7:05 PM...looks like 10 hours earlier there maybe?
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7:05pm there - 9:05am here so.. 1amish? I think

It will be streamed on wings website im guessing?

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:12 PM

its been an honor lids. bar none best defense men.

you will be missed by everyone. I wish the team could have pulled one last one out for you.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:33 PM

[quote name='AusWing40' timestamp='1338419507' post='2304004']
7:05pm there - 9:05am here so.. 1amish? I think

It will be streamed on wings website im guessing?
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The Red Wings facebook said they'll have one.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:36 PM

Its interesting and true that lids has been the heartbeat and backbone of the wings. But if his will to play and win is gone as it seems it now is, then the team as a whole loses that too. I think this is what we saw the past couple seasons as nic seemes to second guess whether he really wanted to continue playing every offseason. We need somebody else who still has the fire inside to take over now. Its time i think. Will be crying tomorrow for sure. But im convinced its time.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:39 PM

Does this mean Holmstrom is hanging up his skates too since they went to the rink and all together??

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:43 PM

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Does this mean Holmstrom is hanging up his skates too since they went to the rink and all together??
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Im my mind - yes. Its very evident that homer doesnt fit anywhere on the team currently and his body is probably screaming for mercy.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:48 PM

Time to shift Lidstrom to the "left" on the top of the page?

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:11 PM

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:11 PM

They just mentioned the press conference on the Detroit/Boston baseball game and said it looks like he's retiring. Oh, gawd.[img]http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif[/img]

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:15 PM

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They just mentioned the press conference on the Detroit/Boston baseball game and said it looks like he's retiring. Oh, gawd.[img]http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif[/img]
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Yeah, in case you or anyone else didn't know, it's 99% sure that he's retiring tomorrow.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:27 PM

Haven't been on LGW all day.

Not surprised that he's retiring, but am surprised that he picked this day to do it, with the Cup Finals kicking off and all.

In any case, it sucks that he's gone. He could have still played several years at a good level. It's a shame Holland did s*** to improve this team last season and that his final year ended in a first round playoff exit.

He's the best hockey player I ever got to see in his prime and the best I ever will see.
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:30 PM

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its been an honor lids. bar none best defense men.

you will be missed by everyone. I wish the team could have pulled one last one out for you.
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i feel bad now that lids is retiring and he last game was a loss in nashville




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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:31 PM

I'm sad for us and hockey, but glad for Lids and his family. He's definitely earned a break.
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:33 PM

speaking of retiring, I sure wish Sergei would sign a one day contract with the Wings so he can retire in the uniform he rightly belongs in! Of course with today's news, it may seem like he may be jumping on the coattails of Nick a bit and I am sure he'd hate to steal any thunder, but maybe he could do it sometime during the season...Nick/Homer/Sergei all "retiring" at once...certain HOF's? Well, not Holmstrom but definitely a helluva retirement class!

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