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#21 Hockey13Playa

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 03:52 PM

Steve Yzerman?


When did Yzerman take a complete year off besides the lockout? If that's what you are talking about I would consider it a little different since everyone had to take the year off, and a lot players played across seas or in some type of organized league to keep in top shape.

Who says he wants to come back? :sly:


Maybe I misunderstood what I read? I thought he wanted to take a year off and come back...? :blink:

Ya, no GM would ever want to do that..sign a 40 year old who sat out a year....

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Oh man I knew someone would nail me for that. I still think its a little bit different though. The type of people/players Thomas and Hasek are. Both different in my opinion. It would all depend on if Thomas still worked out and such as well. If he sat around playing video games and out partying and stuff like that I would be real skeptical on signing him. :huh:

EDIT: Hasek actually sat out a year though without playing? I thought that was when he took that little stint in Europe?

EDIT2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominik_Hašek I guess he did not play 2 times throughout when he started his career. I still think hes one of those people/players that would have a asterisk next to his name, since you know he's known for keeping himself in the best of conditions and such.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 05:32 PM

I think the thing that sounds crappy is that his entire salary still counts towards the cap of the Bruins. I don't mind that he wants to sit out for the season, but he should at least retire or void his contract in some way. That way, the team can compete without taking the $5 hit to the cap. Just my .02 cents.


I don't think this is true. IIRC, Scott Niedermayer was technically under suspension by the Ducks when he sat out the first third of the 07-08 season, and his salary didn't count against the cap. If the B's do the same thing, I'm guessing Thomas' salary will also not count towards the cap.

Since Thomas signed his contract after turning 35 years old, if he actually retired, the Bruins would have to pay off the rest of his contract (or at least some percentage of it, I don't remember..). Sounds like this is a way for him to hang 'em up and not leave the team stranded.
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Posted 01 June 2012 - 05:40 PM

When did Yzerman take a complete year off besides the lockout? If that's what you are talking about I would consider it a little different since everyone had to take the year off, and a lot players played across seas or in some type of organized league to keep in top shape.



Maybe I misunderstood what I read? I thought he wanted to take a year off and come back...? :blink:



Oh man I knew someone would nail me for that. I still think its a little bit different though. The type of people/players Thomas and Hasek are. Both different in my opinion. It would all depend on if Thomas still worked out and such as well. If he sat around playing video games and out partying and stuff like that I would be real skeptical on signing him. :huh:

EDIT: Hasek actually sat out a year though without playing? I thought that was when he took that little stint in Europe?

EDIT2: http://en.wikipedia....inik_Hašek I guess he did not play 2 times throughout when he started his career. I still think hes one of those people/players that would have a asterisk next to his name, since you know he's known for keeping himself in the best of conditions and such.


You asked what GM would sign an old goalie that hadn't played in a year and I said "Steve Yzerman". It was my way of joking around about Yzerman signing a 40 year old Dwayne Roloson after he hadn't played much the year before. I realize that the two scenarios aren't exactly alike, but it was meant to be a joke none the less.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 05:47 PM

So he wants to sit out the season and have the team pick up his paycheck. Is it just me, or do the words, "You can't have it both ways" apply here?
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Posted 01 June 2012 - 06:33 PM

You asked what GM would sign an old goalie that hadn't played in a year and I said "Steve Yzerman". It was my way of joking around about Yzerman signing a 40 year old Dwayne Roloson after he hadn't played much the year before. I realize that the two scenarios aren't exactly alike, but it was meant to be a joke none the less.


Makes sense, I thought you were saying Steve Yzerman as a player did that. Sorry about that. But yeah I guess he did since he signed old man Roloson.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 06:43 PM

Makes sense, I thought you were saying Steve Yzerman as a player did that. Sorry about that. But yeah I guess he did since he signed old man Roloson.


Roloson did play about 50 games the year before Yzerman signed him though, so it's not an exact comparison

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:05 PM

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:49 PM

But he needs money to pay cab fares...


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Posted 01 June 2012 - 07:58 PM

I'd consider the fan base also, going from cup champions to out in the first round. There's been issues with fans in Boston at Red Sox games in recent history, and it's known to be a city where sports fans are very Philly-like. Maybe he's received threats and is having issues with the fans, just because it isn't reported doesn't mean it's not happening. Considering the little known facts of the article, it could be a contributing factor if it isn't a step towards retirement or conflicts in his political standing and everything that happened.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 08:34 PM

Three weeks!


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Posted 01 June 2012 - 10:09 PM

Is it just coincidence the amount of crap Timmy's gotten since making his political affiliation known? I think not.

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Yeah, everyone loved Tim Thomas until he expressed his opinion. It's amazing how petty people are.
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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:44 PM

he wants to finish he's career in detroit. that is his dream. not sure if it can/will come true. and maybe it's just better i not give source cause it's from a friend! Posted Image

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 11:53 PM

Yeah, everyone loved Tim Thomas until he expressed his opinion. It's amazing how petty people are.


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Posted 02 June 2012 - 06:39 AM

I think the thing that sounds crappy is that his entire salary still counts towards the cap of the Bruins. I don't mind that he wants to sit out for the season, but he should at least retire or void his contract in some way. That way, the team can compete without taking the $5 hit to the cap. Just my .02 cents.


I don't think this is true. IIRC, Scott Niedermayer was technically under suspension by the Ducks when he sat out the first third of the 07-08 season, and his salary didn't count against the cap. If the B's do the same thing, I'm guessing Thomas' salary will also not count towards the cap.

Since Thomas signed his contract after turning 35 years old, if he actually retired, the Bruins would have to pay off the rest of his contract (or at least some percentage of it, I don't remember..). Sounds like this is a way for him to hang 'em up and not leave the team stranded.

I thought that if you signed after a certain age (as Comrade mentioned 35) retirement through anything other than injury meant that salary still had to be paid/counted against the cap as a way of stopping teams front loading contracts until players were like 50? Not too knowledgable of the salary cap and the CBA though so may well be wrong. Even buying out a contract still counts towards the cap doesn't it, just means that money is off their books in one lump sum and they can forget about it. Wondering if there is any way to void a contract as Nightfall said? (Sorry still not great with peoples actual names and their profile names.) Only way I can think of is if one or the other of the party breaks contract rules and they have a legal opportunity to terminate a contract. However still don't know how that will affect the CBA as it could still require them to pay towards the cap.

Very weird move by Thomas but quite simply, I think he doesn't really enjoy it much anymore. I gave up playing soccer because I simply lost interest in it, some of the time it happens. But then again soccer is rapidly falling apart so it was an easy decision :P

EDIT: Forgot to mention, with the Long-term IR, I wonder if a team could lobby on grounds of mental health? Has that ever been done before. I think with a lot of hockey players untimely deaths recently and some having suspicious circumstances surrounding them, that a team could put together a good case for a player needing time off such as this. Would have to be strictly enforced though to stop teams getting big contracts off their books.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 07:18 AM

"We'd have to deal (the loss of Thomas for the season) and we will," said Chiarelli. "I'd be more than satisfied with Tuukka (Rask) and (Anton) Khudobin as our goaltenders."


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Posted 02 June 2012 - 07:48 AM

Can't quote a quote here, but what Chiarelli said. :thumbup:

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 07:59 AM

Yeah, everyone loved Tim Thomas until he expressed his opinion. It's amazing how petty people are.

People only mildly cared too until the media wouldn't shut up about it, which tells you how easily people derive their thoughts from what the media tells or portrays to them.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 09:11 AM

He is just playing the cards he was dealt. Thomas knows the Bruins are looking to trade him. His no movement clause of his contract expires on July 1st. Meaning that the Bruins could wait til it expires and trade him to Winnipeg or somewhere he doesn't want to go.

Thomas makes a statement saying he is going to sit out, the Bruins then are forced to handle him and he can now use his no trade clause and pick the teams he'd be willing to go to.

Thomas says it's because of his family, but it makes no sense if that is the only reason.
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Posted 02 June 2012 - 11:06 AM

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He would be crazy to sit out at his age... He is what either 38 or 39 I forget. If he sits a year out and trys to come back he'll be pushing 40 years old. What GM is going to want to sign a 40 year old goalie who has been sitting around for a full year?? Big mistake if he does that.


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Posted 02 June 2012 - 11:09 AM

Tim Who?
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