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#21 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:11 PM

The Jets are cash strapped, they are poorly managed. heck they only have 4 players signed through the 2013 season. How does any team only have 4 guys signed? TBH if we are going to try and deal with the jets, I would rather go after their Dman Bo-soemthing or another. Big young Rh D. Fills more of a need.

Since when were the Jets cash strapped? They had a $53,139,265 payroll last year with $11,160,735 available and with 15,300 seats that were full every night at the MTS centre, they grossed near the top of the league in revenue not to mention other sales. They've been back here in Winnipeg for 1 season, sold the most merch by far in the NHL this season and that's a confirmed fact and are currently in the process of contract talks and re-signing of players just like every other team in the league.

Kane, Fehr, Mahachek, and Pavelec are RFA this summer. Slater, Glass, Wellwood, Stapleton, Jones, Flood and Mason are UFA.

Currently, they have 14 players signed for $36,867,959 with $33,432,042 cap room with the cap set at $70,300,000.

They need to resign Kane, Machacek, Slater, Wellwood, Stapleton, Flood, Pavelec and Mason. Grab a couple UFA from free agency in place of the others that need not be re-signed and they're good to go.

Main points here:
1. Your posts have zero credibility cause you do no research and spew off the cuff bulls***.
2. The Jets are one of the best managed teams in the league with the entire city of Winnipeg behind them.
3. Players actually want to come to Winnipeg that aren't named Bryzgalov or Belanger cause of the excitement and the fanbase that makes the team feel at home.

Kane will be signed for probably 5 years at about 4.5 per year by the Jets.

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#22 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 02:34 PM

Highly doubt he leaves Winnipeg. Be also crazy for Winnipeg to let him go. We shall see pretty soon...

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:02 PM

Why is he being discussed so much lately? He's not going to leave Winnipeg. They'd be one of the worst managed teams to let him go.


I agree, Atlanta management may have traded him, but Winnipeg want to build a franchise not dismantle one.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:31 PM

Since when were the Jets cash strapped? They had a $53,139,265 payroll last year with $11,160,735 available and with 15,300 seats that were full every night at the MTS centre, they grossed near the top of the league in revenue not to mention other sales. They've been back here in Winnipeg for 1 season, sold the most merch by far in the NHL this season and that's a confirmed fact and are currently in the process of contract talks and re-signing of players just like every other team in the league.

Kane, Fehr, Mahachek, and Pavelec are RFA this summer. Slater, Glass, Wellwood, Stapleton, Jones, Flood and Mason are UFA.

Currently, they have 14 players signed for $36,867,959 with $33,432,042 cap room with the cap set at $70,300,000.

They need to resign Kane, Machacek, Slater, Wellwood, Stapleton, Flood, Pavelec and Mason. Grab a couple UFA from free agency in place of the others that need not be re-signed and they're good to go.

Main points here:
1. Your posts have zero credibility cause you do no research and spew off the cuff bulls***.
2. The Jets are one of the best managed teams in the league with the entire city of Winnipeg behind them.
3. Players actually want to come to Winnipeg that aren't named Bryzgalov or Belanger cause of the excitement and the fanbase that makes the team feel at home.

Kane will be signed for probably 5 years at about 4.5 per year by the Jets.


You are the one who seems very confused. Last year the Jets were supported by the league to stay viable. See the story linked above were their owner "shocked" everyone by telling them they may no longer need the help. yes the cap may be high, but that does not mean they have the ability to pay that much, and in fact through this past season they did not. Thus the payments from the league. In there first year, they did great. But that was because they were the hot new thing. The question that no one knows the answer to is: will it last. I would bet no. Win. is just to small of a market to keep them going. That is why the jets-now yotes moved in the first place.


Now you can spew whatever you want about me untill your fingers hurt. i really couldn't care less. But at least try to have any proof or evidence in anything you say when you do it. Which to date you do not. have a good day.


Here is the link, Bombshell was the word used.....



http://www.winnipegf...-146445605.html

Edited by Richdg, 08 June 2012 - 03:35 PM.


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:37 PM

You are the one who seems very confused. Last year the Jets were supported by the league to stay viable. See the story linked above were their owner "shocked" everyone by telling them they may no longer need the help. yes the cap may be high, but that does not mean they have the ability to pay that much, and in fact through this past season they did not. Thus the payments from the league. In there first year, they did great. But that was because they were the hot new thing. The question that no one knows the answer to is: will it last. I would bet no. Win. is just to small of a market to keep them going. That is why the jets-now yotes moved in the first place.


Now you can spew whatever you want about me untill your fingers hurt. i really couldn't care less. But at least try to have any proof or evidence in anything you say when you do it. Which to date you do not. have a good day.


Here is the link, Bombshell was the word used.....



http://www.winnipegf...-146445605.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuNvxH5kSKU

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 05:47 PM

How about Blake Wheeler?

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:05 PM

How about Blake Wheeler?


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Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Snazzy.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:59 PM

1. But that was because they were the hot new thing. The question that no one knows the answer to is: will it last. I would bet no. Win. is just to small of a market to keep them going. That is why the jets-now yotes moved in the first place.

2. Now you can spew whatever you want about me untill your fingers hurt. i really couldn't care less. But at least try to have any proof or evidence in anything you say when you do it. Which to date you do not. have a good day.


1. Well all the evidence suggests you are wrong. Plus, I was under the impression that the league very much regretted moving out of Winnipeg the first time around.

2. I thought he did pretty good. He provided more evidence than your opinion and article did. Doesn't that article kind of hurt your case? Not to hate on the writer of it, but that wasn't a bombshell....And Winnipeg may be a small market but Canadian markets always do wayyyy better than American ones, I'd throw my hat in Winnipeg's ring before most of the southern U.S. teams.

have a good night.

Edited by number9, 08 June 2012 - 11:00 PM.


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Posted 09 June 2012 - 12:58 AM

1. Well all the evidence suggests you are wrong. Plus, I was under the impression that the league very much regretted moving out of Winnipeg the first time around.

2. I thought he did pretty good. He provided more evidence than your opinion and article did. Doesn't that article kind of hurt your case? Not to hate on the writer of it, but that wasn't a bombshell....And Winnipeg may be a small market but Canadian markets always do wayyyy better than American ones, I'd throw my hat in Winnipeg's ring before most of the southern U.S. teams.

have a good night.



Since neither of you have any knowledge about business, let me explain. If a team has 100 million in revenue, which is what the Jets have, they may repeat may have 45-55 million to spend on payroll. Out of the 100 million they have to: pay taxes, pay for their front office, pay for their minor league teams, give the ownership some form of profit, pay the vendors for the beers, dogs, brats, popcorn, etc.... Pay the rent to the arena, and so one. This is the high water mark. They will never sell as much mer. etc.... because they are not the hot new thing anymore. Everyone has a jersey already. The arena they play in lacks the lux. suites needed to rake in the money needed. They may be allowed to spend 70 million in payroll, but they will never have the money to do it untill: they get a wealthy owner that only cares about winning. Maybe then they will be able to. Untill such time they will have to operate like a small market baseball team does. Go wathc the movie moneyball. That is what the jets will have to do, and make zero mistakes along the way to win.
That being said, I hope they do make it. It is good for the league.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 01:23 AM

Since neither of you have any knowledge about business, let me explain. If a team has 100 million in revenue, which is what the Jets have, they may repeat may have 45-55 million to spend on payroll. Out of the 100 million they have to: pay taxes, pay for their front office, pay for their minor league teams, give the ownership some form of profit, pay the vendors for the beers, dogs, brats, popcorn, etc.... Pay the rent to the arena, and so one. This is the high water mark. They will never sell as much mer. etc.... because they are not the hot new thing anymore. Everyone has a jersey already. The arena they play in lacks the lux. suites needed to rake in the money needed. They may be allowed to spend 70 million in payroll, but they will never have the money to do it untill: they get a wealthy owner that only cares about winning. Maybe then they will be able to. Untill such time they will have to operate like a small market baseball team does. Go wathc the movie moneyball. That is what the jets will have to do, and make zero mistakes along the way to win.
That being said, I hope they do make it. It is good for the league.



WTF?

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 02:46 AM

Evander Kane would be worth the compensation if he were to sign. He is already a 30 goal scorer and I doubt Winnipeg matches 6 mil.


$6m would be an absurd salary for Kane.

garbage


Apparently you have inside knowledge of the Jets' finances such that you may make qualified judgments about their ability to spend this summer.

No, you don't.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 04:03 AM

Main points here:
2. The Jets are one of the best managed teams in the league with the entire city of Winnipeg behind them.
3. Players actually want to come to Winnipeg that aren't named Bryzgalov or Belanger cause of the excitement and the fanbase that makes the team feel at home.

Kane will be signed for probably 5 years at about 4.5 per year by the Jets.



While I agree the Winnipeg Jets have really improved their fan base, the Detroit Red Wings are not only the best managed team in hockey, their the best managed team in sports.

Edited by MrBest7, 09 June 2012 - 04:03 AM.


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Posted 09 June 2012 - 10:37 AM

WTF?


sorry, was drinking last night. i come here too much.


Apparently you have inside knowledge of the Jets' finances such that you may make qualified judgments about their ability to spend this summer.

No, you don't.


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Why is Kane being discussed anyway? He's not leaving Winnipeg.....this whole topic is kinda pointless, we might as well discuss getting Stamkos....at least he's better

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 11:11 AM

No thanks and we've already given up our first round pick for this season and I don't like the thought of giving up any picks. So I don't want him and wouldn't sign him.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 01:15 PM

$6m would be an absurd salary for Kane.



Apparently you have inside knowledge of the Jets' finances such that you may make qualified judgments about their ability to spend this summer.

No, you don't.



Have I ran an aduti on their books? Nope. But the jets themselves-read the above link by the Win. newspaper, were happy they made their goal of 100 million in rev. That is what the Jets have said publicly. The rest I said based on experience. I have degrees in business management, and 15 years in upper management expereince at various companies. I have great knowledge of what it take to make a company run. Not to mention what things like overhead and payroll run, and at what % those are normally at. This is the real world. Not thoughts and opinions on some forum. Why do you think the NHL fought so hard to hold the players at 57% of revenue in the last CBA? Just some random number? No. Becasue that is the line that they believe they start losing money. Now is 57% the same for every team? No. Big revenue teams can go much higher. A team that makes 200 million only spend 35% on payroll, with a 70 million $ cap. A team that makes 100 million-like the Jets, can't go to 70 million because it puts them into the red. The best way to judge the Jets hasn't happened yet. It is 2 years away. Look at the numbers after year 3, when all the shine has worn off. If the hold or decrease, they will not make it long term. Inflation will hamper them. if they increase at the inflation rate or greater, they will survive.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 02:32 PM

Have I ran an aduti on their books? Nope. But the jets themselves-read the above link by the Win. newspaper, were happy they made their goal of 100 million in rev. That is what the Jets have said publicly. The rest I said based on experience. I have degrees in business management, and 15 years in upper management expereince at various companies. I have great knowledge of what it take to make a company run. Not to mention what things like overhead and payroll run, and at what % those are normally at. This is the real world. Not thoughts and opinions on some forum. Why do you think the NHL fought so hard to hold the players at 57% of revenue in the last CBA? Just some random number? No. Becasue that is the line that they believe they start losing money. Now is 57% the same for every team? No. Big revenue teams can go much higher. A team that makes 200 million only spend 35% on payroll, with a 70 million $ cap. A team that makes 100 million-like the Jets, can't go to 70 million because it puts them into the red. The best way to judge the Jets hasn't happened yet. It is 2 years away. Look at the numbers after year 3, when all the shine has worn off. If the hold or decrease, they will not make it long term. Inflation will hamper them. if they increase at the inflation rate or greater, they will survive.


At least we know for a fact your delusional now lol

Look guy, no one cares what you did in college or where you work. You don't have financial knowledge of the inner-workings of the NHL. Even if you did work for the business end of a team that doesn't mean you know diddly squat about the Jets situation. I'm the King of Siam....does that mean I could tell you what it's like to be the king of England? No.

Edited by number9, 09 June 2012 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 09 June 2012 - 03:11 PM

I would trade Franzen and Kindl for him. 20 year old 30 goal scorer that is lightnning fast, plays with a high energy level and is also fairly tough would be great on this team.

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#38 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 12:27 PM

While I agree the Winnipeg Jets have really improved their fan base, the Detroit Red Wings are not only the best managed team in hockey, their the best managed team in sports.

whoa now, i am very aware that the Wings are "the best", as i stated the Jets are "one of the best". i'm loyal to the Wings above all.

to Richdg, the article you mentioned says "the Jets will not need NHL's revenue-sharing". that means exactly what i posted before that they are a self-sufficient franchise that is raking in money. just a heads up too with the asinie comment you made as well about them not sustaining the sales and what not, they've already locked up the first 5 years of season tickets with a massive waiting list to get season tickets after that as well as a waiting list to buy single seats to go to the games. so once again, know your facts and do some real research, not just google a couple key words and think you're smarter than the rest of us. later bud.

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#39 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 12:34 PM

Since neither of you have any knowledge about business, let me explain. If a team has 100 million in revenue, which is what the Jets have, they may repeat may have 45-55 million to spend on payroll. Out of the 100 million they have to: pay taxes, pay for their front office, pay for their minor league teams, give the ownership some form of profit, pay the vendors for the beers, dogs, brats, popcorn, etc.... Pay the rent to the arena, and so one. This is the high water mark. They will never sell as much mer. etc.... because they are not the hot new thing anymore. Everyone has a jersey already. The arena they play in lacks the lux. suites needed to rake in the money needed. They may be allowed to spend 70 million in payroll, but they will never have the money to do it untill: they get a wealthy owner that only cares about winning. Maybe then they will be able to. Untill such time they will have to operate like a small market baseball team does. Go wathc the movie moneyball. That is what the jets will have to do, and make zero mistakes along the way to win.
That being said, I hope they do make it. It is good for the league.

...And now you're the judge on what we have knowledge about. You sir are an arrogant dick. And the Jets "exceeded" the 100 mil in revenue, that is not the concrete number that they made. 15 years of business and upper management should teach you a lot more about the variables of business, not just media face value numbers. The Jets owner is also one of the richest businessmen in Canada.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 02:41 PM

Since neither of you have any knowledge about business, let me explain. If a team has 100 million in revenue, which is what the Jets have, they may repeat may have 45-55 million to spend on payroll. Out of the 100 million they have to: pay taxes, pay for their front office, pay for their minor league teams, give the ownership some form of profit, pay the vendors for the beers, dogs, brats, popcorn, etc.... Pay the rent to the arena, and so one. This is the high water mark. They will never sell as much mer. etc.... because they are not the hot new thing anymore. Everyone has a jersey already. The arena they play in lacks the lux. suites needed to rake in the money needed. They may be allowed to spend 70 million in payroll, but they will never have the money to do it untill: they get a wealthy owner that only cares about winning. Maybe then they will be able to. Untill such time they will have to operate like a small market baseball team does. Go wathc the movie moneyball. That is what the jets will have to do, and make zero mistakes along the way to win.
That being said, I hope they do make it. It is good for the league.


Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels called. They want you to be in their next movie. Dumb Dumber and Dumbest. Guess which one you are? Mark Chapman IS a wealthy owner who only cares about winning. You just don't like Winnipeg because they are based in Canada. Guess what? They are not going away. This franchise now MAKES money instead of losing it like they did as the Atlanta Thrashers. You know when you talk out your ass as much as you do, no wonder people think you're a s***head.

Edited by Hatethedrake!, 10 June 2012 - 02:42 PM.

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