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#1 kerism17

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:18 AM

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($5.250m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Brad Boyes ($3.500m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($6.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Michael Leighton ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,333,712; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,966,288

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

Why no Parise? I know this is a fantasy because you have Abdelkader centering the 3rd ine over Helm and Flip over Mule, so why not have Parise AND Semin on either side of Dats? You have the money since you didn't sign any of our UFAs.

I hope Suter will settle in Detroit for $6 mil, since the Preds and every other team will be offering him more.

Why Brad Boyes? He had a bad season and you have him making $3.5 million. Is that your cheap role-player pick-up?

Where is Quincey? The Wings have stated that they want to keep all their RFAs. If you let him go what did you get for him? Boyes?

Finally, you have almost $8 million left, why didn't you sign Hudler for $4.5 over Boyes and get the guranteed 20+ goals that Boyes would struggle to produce? I know we all hate Hudler here, but sometimes he is the better option. A better question would be why didn't you sign a veteran (Iginla, Doan, etc) to come in as a role player WITH leadership for about $4 million?

I know that this entire thread is theorhetical and al lot of things have to line up for the my or the OPs post to occur.

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It still would be nice to have that one guy.


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Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:55 AM

Putting Semin @ 5.25 isn't realistic unless its a long term contract which Semin clearly hasn't earned yet. 6 million would be the lowest I could see him signing for. Same goes for Sutter, but he would be worth the investment. 6 million per must means he'd be a Wing for life. Boyes = Gomez LOL.. No thanks..

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:04 AM

I'd love to see another Russian to play with Datsyuk and they were phenomenal with Semin at the World Cup.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:22 AM

I think we are going to sign Suter simply because of the fact that his name is often spelled wrong as was Lidstrom being pronounced the wrong way.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:09 AM

I think we are going to sign Suter simply because of the fact that his name is often spelled wrong as was Lidstrom being pronounced the wrong way.


Hopefully sutter goes for that pitch..

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:22 AM

I admit it folks. I am indeed a Capgeek-aholic...


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Travis Moen ($2.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Brandon Prust ($2.000m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Josh Harding ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS(follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiledwithout the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP:$70,300,000; CAPPAYROLL: $69,133,712; BONUSES:$37,500
CAP SPACE (23-manroster): $1,166,288


Edited by Hatethedrake!, 14 June 2012 - 10:23 AM.

Jordan Tootoo will wreck shop.

We need someone like Parise that can penetrate the box.-blueadams

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:24 AM

What happened to Bert?

Love the 4th line BTW.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:30 AM

What happened to Bert?

Love the 4th line BTW.


I traded him to the Leafs for future considerations. I considered it and decided that he's better off in Toronto with Burke than in Detroit with Babs.
Jordan Tootoo will wreck shop.

We need someone like Parise that can penetrate the box.-blueadams

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 11:50 AM

Why no Parise? I know this is a fantasy because you have Abdelkader centering the 3rd ine over Helm and Flip over Mule, so why not have Parise AND Semin on either side of Dats? You have the money since you didn't sign any of our UFAs.

I hope Suter will settle in Detroit for $6 mil, since the Preds and every other team will be offering him more.

Why Brad Boyes? He had a bad season and you have him making $3.5 million. Is that your cheap role-player pick-up?

Where is Quincey? The Wings have stated that they want to keep all their RFAs. If you let him go what did you get for him? Boyes?

Finally, you have almost $8 million left, why didn't you sign Hudler for $4.5 over Boyes and get the guranteed 20+ goals that Boyes would struggle to produce? I know we all hate Hudler here, but sometimes he is the better option. A better question would be why didn't you sign a veteran (Iginla, Doan, etc) to come in as a role player WITH leadership for about $4 million?

I know that this entire thread is theorhetical and al lot of things have to line up for the my or the OPs post to occur.


I just don't see us getting Parise, I think he's staying in Jersey (even with their finacial situation)...

It's not about who is better Helm or Abdelkader (Helm is obviosly better), it's who fits best on which line. Abdelkader would fit better on the 3rd line with two other big bodies and Helm would be better suited on the 4th line with the energy guys with both lines seeing around the same amount of ice time, Babcock loves his energy guys...As for Flippula over Franzen, I would pick Fil over the Mule any day of the week but once again it's about who fits better on which line. Fil and Pav feeding Semin the puck, and Hank and Nyquist feeding the Mule...

And yes I have a hell of a lot of money left over but I wouldn't spend to the cap if I were Kenny, because the cap is going to drop right back down after this season, so why would you want to be in the same situation the Hawks were in two years ago right after winning the cup, having no choice but to ship off players in all directions...

Brad Boyes is a good player, just had an incredibly terrible year, like most of the Sabres. With a change of scenery and playing a smaller role he can return to his 60-70 points per year...

Hudler is never the better option, we have our top 6 set and he doesn't fit into the bottom 6. The guy is terrible... slow, soft, and easily intimidated...

If I thought we could get either Iginla or Doan I would pick either of them over Boyes. Whether you think it is or not, I believe this is a real possibility for the upcoming season.

Putting Semin @ 5.25 isn't realistic unless its a long term contract which Semin clearly hasn't earned yet. 6 million would be the lowest I could see him signing for. Same goes for Sutter, but he would be worth the investment. 6 million per must means he'd be a Wing for life. Boyes = Gomez LOL.. No thanks..



Semin is in for a huge paycut if he wants a chance to win unless he's prepared to head back to Russia to play in the KHL, which he very well may do...

Boyes = Gomez.... where that logic comes from, I have no idea... Boyes could be a good fit on our 3rd line.

Edited by kerism17, 14 June 2012 - 11:52 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:19 PM

I admit it folks. I am indeed a Capgeek-aholic...


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Travis Moen ($2.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Brandon Prust ($2.000m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Josh Harding ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS(follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiledwithout the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP:$70,300,000; CAPPAYROLL: $69,133,712; BONUSES:$37,500
CAP SPACE (23-manroster): $1,166,288

I really like this roster but I think you over payed on mostly all of the players you signed or resigned...
I would consider paying Helm $2.000m but I think $1.250m - $1.500m is around what he will (should) get.
I think it's also a slight over payment for Abby as well.
I wouldn't want to pay anymore than $7.000m - $7.500m for Parise but I would consider it for such a talent.
I think Moen is about right, but not the number one guy I would want.
I would love to have Prust but for no more than $1.125m... $2.000m is a huge over payment for him in my opinion.
No way I would sign Suter to $8.000m... I would rather sign Carle, Garrison or Wideman for $2.000m - 3.000m less and have money to spend elsewhere.
I think Quincey is about right.
And I think Harding is about right and I would love to have him back-up Howard but I think he's going to be looking for a starting job (possibly with Tampa)



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Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:29 PM

I thought for sure this was a bluesadams thread. I feel like we have so manyyyyy of these threads and they ALL are the pretty much the same thing. Maybe swapping a player or two.

Anyways I don't know about Semin, he will want to much and is known for being lazy. It would be intriguing to see him play with Datsyuk but not sure if that outweighs his known laziness.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:04 PM

Semin will want a lot but I'm not so sure he will get it. I've heard it said and agree that the Wings are in the best position to take a gamble on him, it's the "safest" place for him to land. I wouldn't be surprised if he were to sign a one year deal with us for "cheap" like 6m if we happened to miss out on Parise let's say.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:18 PM

I thought for sure this was a bluesadams thread. I feel like we have so manyyyyy of these threads and they ALL are the pretty much the same thing. Maybe swapping a player or two.

Anyways I don't know about Semin, he will want to much and is known for being lazy. It would be intriguing to see him play with Datsyuk but not sure if that outweighs his known laziness.


I agree, can't we sticky a capgeek/fantasy/dream world/I made this trade on Nhl 2012 thread?

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:41 PM

I agree, can't we sticky a capgeek/fantasy/dream world/I made this trade on Nhl 2012 thread?


That would be perfect! :thumbup:

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:55 PM

I think if I was Kenny if at all possible I'd try to spend only like $63-65 Million of the Cap MAX because I think it is going to head back down because it going up all the time isn't sustainable.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 03:22 PM

I think the conservative estimate for Suter has to be 7 Million. Anything under that I think is fantasy.

Semin isn't going to be on this team unless he gives up on the money. I would consider him to be be where you recoup the money, because he might not be worth more than Franzen in the Wings mind. I get the feeling he could go somewhere for a cup and sign a cheap deal and bail for the KHL at any point to get real money.

I think you have Helm and Abs way underpaid. I expect they could get that money... but then it would be short term. I have a feeling they both will get long term contracts in excess of two million.

Schultz will also get way more than what you are giving him. I expect him to get at least first round entry money. I would up that at least one million. There is no way Holland isn't signing Quincey short of Kyle having dellusions of grandure. You have to factor that in.

Your roster doesn't seem doable, or at least not likely.

I also don't think it takes into account what the rumor mill indicates as the big targets for Holland.

I am going to put this out there.

Suter and Parise are 1A and 1B.

Those fail, then I would see some of these guys show up.

I feel the defense, failing Suter is going to include Garrison. I think he gets signed before Schultz in that event. Schultz's agent has said he wants a 1-way spot ensured. I don't think the Wings do that unless they are desperate. He just sounds to me to be more of a risk at a large contract with a spot ensured, than the Wings like to take. So to recap I expect Garrison then Wideman, likely before Schultz.

Parise, if they miss on him then they will kick the tires on Semin, but they won't pay him. Boyes and Hudler is the backup plan there. Moen also plays in to this discussion.

I actually think they go harder at Zach than Ryan because I feel they are more desperate at goalscorer than D. That is, that they can fix by committee.

Worst case scenario on Defense is they bring in Wideman, Garrison, and Quincey and let Smith work his way in, and look for a trade later to fix the other problems by moving defensive depth.

Edited by Majsheppard, 14 June 2012 - 03:24 PM.

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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.

This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:38 PM

I really am starting to believe that the Wings will trade for Parise's rights, sign him long term, hunt down Suter on July 1st and sign him long term (8-10 years each) and for some reason I think we may see Semin here for about $5M...I could be wrong, he is not on my fantasy roster, but I have a strange feeling...He is Holland's type of player, and I really don't think he is that lazy...think about that, your top 2 lines would be:

Franzen - Datsyuk - Semin

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Parise

follow that up with:

Bertuzzi - Filppula - Cleary

Eaves - Helm - Abby

(does anyone know of or heard if Eaves is going to be healthy?)

That leaves Miller/Emmerton/Mursak to make the last two spots, maybe 1 of them will be involved in the trade for Parise. Plus if Holland gets a hold of Moen...this forward group looks pretty good to say the least...

I think the conservative estimate for Suter has to be 7 Million. Anything under that I think is fantasy.

Semin isn't going to be on this team unless he gives up on the money. I would consider him to be be where you recoup the money, because he might not be worth more than Franzen in the Wings mind. I get the feeling he could go somewhere for a cup and sign a cheap deal and bail for the KHL at any point to get real money.

I think you have Helm and Abs way underpaid. I expect they could get that money... but then it would be short term. I have a feeling they both will get long term contracts in excess of two million.

Schultz will also get way more than what you are giving him. I expect him to get at least first round entry money. I would up that at least one million. There is no way Holland isn't signing Quincey short of Kyle having dellusions of grandure. You have to factor that in.

Your roster doesn't seem doable, or at least not likely.

I also don't think it takes into account what the rumor mill indicates as the big targets for Holland.

I am going to put this out there.

Suter and Parise are 1A and 1B.

Those fail, then I would see some of these guys show up.

I feel the defense, failing Suter is going to include Garrison. I think he gets signed before Schultz in that event. Schultz's agent has said he wants a 1-way spot ensured. I don't think the Wings do that unless they are desperate. He just sounds to me to be more of a risk at a large contract with a spot ensured, than the Wings like to take. So to recap I expect Garrison then Wideman, likely before Schultz.

Parise, if they miss on him then they will kick the tires on Semin, but they won't pay him. Boyes and Hudler is the backup plan there. Moen also plays in to this discussion.

I actually think they go harder at Zach than Ryan because I feel they are more desperate at goalscorer than D. That is, that they can fix by committee.

Worst case scenario on Defense is they bring in Wideman, Garrison, and Quincey and let Smith work his way in, and look for a trade later to fix the other problems by moving defensive depth.

We just lost Lidstrom and Stuart, I think that makes them pretty desperate at D too! I think that they are going ALL OUT for BOTH and I really hope they land them...not just one, BOTH...Holland can do it! Do it Holland! DO IT!

Blah,Blah,Blah....Trade Pav...Blah, Blah...Trade Z...Yadda, Yadda, Blah...

 

 


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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:39 PM

sign Parise(8), Suter(8), Jagr (3m), Doan(4m), Harding(700k), and a cheap physical d-man (550k)


Parise/Datsyuk/Jagr
Franzen/Zetterberg/Doan
Nyquist/Flippula/Bertuzzi
Abdelkader/Helm/Cleary
Miller/Eaves

Kronwall/Suter
White/Ericcson
Smith/550k
Kindl

Howard
Harding

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

I would love to do this...

1. Trade Filppula, Cleary, Ferarro and a 1st round pick to Phoenix for Keith Yandle.
2. Sign Ryan Suter ($6,500,000)
3. Sign Zach Parise ($6,500,000)
4. Sign Damien Brunner ($900,000)
5. Re-sign Abdelkader ($1,500,00)
5. Let Hudler walk.
6. Let Quincey walk.

Nyquist($875,000) - Datsyuk($6,700,000) - Parise($6,500,000)

Franzen($3,954,545) - Zetterberg($6,083,333) - Brunner ($900,000)

Bertuzzi($2,075,000) - Helm($2,125,000) - Eaves($1,200,000)

Miller($837,500) - Abdelkader($1,500,000) - Mursak ($550,000)

Emmerton($533,333)


Kronwall($4,750,000) - Suter($6,500,000)

Yandle ($5,250,000) - White($2,875,000)

Smith($875,000) - Ericsson($3,250,000)

Kindl($883,333)


Howard($2,250,000)

MacDonald($550,000)

CAP : $70,000,000 (probably not)

CAP HIT : $61,017,044

CAP ROOM : $8,982,956


looks dam good to me. thoughts?
be about it!





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