4 years? I'll take it! At first, I thought "Wow! $2 mil a year eh?", but honestly, for what he brings to the team, he's well worth it.
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Darren Helm signs 4 year extension
Started by Tim.D, Jun 19 2012 09:40 AM
helm signed contract
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:36 AM
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:48 AM
That was damn funny!Not Bad.
I think this is a genius contract on Holland's part. Assuming the best, Helm can do nothing but add huge value to this team. All he needs to do is learn to bury those chances his speed is so good at creating and we're golden.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:50 AM
Great signing and a great bargain for what Helm brings to the table. He would score a lot more if he was given opportunities in scoring situations.
It is unfortunate that stats dictate a player's income.
It is precisley because of players like this that the Wings will be a Cup contender for a long time. Players who are willing to play for less than what they could get leaving cap space for the team to fill it's needs (and not over-paying for someone just because we have the money), players like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall, Howard, all could have got so much more on the open market.
It is unfortunate that stats dictate a player's income.
It is precisley because of players like this that the Wings will be a Cup contender for a long time. Players who are willing to play for less than what they could get leaving cap space for the team to fill it's needs (and not over-paying for someone just because we have the money), players like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall, Howard, all could have got so much more on the open market.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:02 AM
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:05 AM
at first i felt like it was a bit high, but considering how many bad contracts are going to happen in a couple weeks, i guess it is good to put it into context. i am also happy with the 4 year term. i think that makes the higher cap hit worth it.
glad to have him on board for 4 more years!
glad to have him on board for 4 more years!
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:07 AM
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:07 AM
Finally, some good Red Wings news.
I think the series against Nashville proved how important Helm was to the team (Although, Im not saying having Helm back would have changed the outcome.. but it certainly wouldnt have hurt)
I think the series against Nashville proved how important Helm was to the team (Although, Im not saying having Helm back would have changed the outcome.. but it certainly wouldnt have hurt)
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:15 AM
Brilliant! This news just made my day a lot brighter. 
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:15 AM
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:16 AM
Great!! I would love to see him play with Z sometimes. If he works his shoot he will be a lethal weapon...
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:21 AM
Finally, some good Red Wings news.
Got that right.
Great!! I would love to see him play with Z sometimes. If he works his shoot he will be a lethal weapon...
He's still pretty young. If he develops his offensive game a bit, maybe he could be another Martin St Louis instead of another Kris Draper.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:27 AM
Great news. This kid has been working hard for this and deserves it. So glad to see him stay in red.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:27 AM
Excellent news!
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:27 AM
Honestly, I was hoping for a more of a $1.5M Cap hit, I know he is a solid player and is good at what he does, but I just don't think he earned a raise over twice what he was payed last season...I guess we will see in 4 years if he is outplaying this $2.1M. It's not that he isn't worth it, it's just needed cap space to make this team better... If Holland overpays Quincey, I will have an ulcer... I hope he keeps Abby at a modest pay...I am hoping for $1.1, but after this, I am seeing $1.8M... sorry guys, not being negative, it's just needed cap space, or maybe sign the big UFA's first and then pay your guys a bit of a inflated contract, thats all I am saying...of course after re-signing Bertuzzi at too much money, I should have seen this coming...
NO QUINCEY!!! NO HUDLER!!! Please God! Please Holland! PLEASE!!!!
EDIT: Also, do you now realize what it's going to take to re-sign Filppula? He will get at least $5M...that is the problem here, (and not just Holland) keep overpaying and the NHL will go belly up... I honestly see a point where the guys making $500,000 today will be at $2M within a couple of years...Hey Minny, go ahead a give Parise the world, ruin the NHL (again.)
NO QUINCEY!!! NO HUDLER!!! Please God! Please Holland! PLEASE!!!!
EDIT: Also, do you now realize what it's going to take to re-sign Filppula? He will get at least $5M...that is the problem here, (and not just Holland) keep overpaying and the NHL will go belly up... I honestly see a point where the guys making $500,000 today will be at $2M within a couple of years...Hey Minny, go ahead a give Parise the world, ruin the NHL (again.)
Edited by LeftWinger, 19 June 2012 - 11:34 AM.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:33 AM
Honestly, I was hoping for a more of a $1.5M Cap hit, I know he is a solid player and is good at what he does, but I just don't think he earned a raise over twice what he was payed last season...I guess we will see in 4 years if he is outplaying this $2.1M. It's not that he isn't worth it, it's just needed cap space to make this team better... If Holland overpays Quincey, I will have an ulcer... I hope he keeps Abby at a modest pay...I am hoping for $1.1, but after this, I am seeing $1.8M... sorry guys, not being negative, it's just needed cap space, or maybe sign the big UFA's first and then pay your guys a bit of a inflated contract, thats all I am saying...of course after re-signing Bertuzzi at too much money, I should have seen this coming...
NO QUINCEY!!! NO HUDLER!!! Please God! Please Holland! PLEASE!!!!
i would imagine you will get a bunch of minuses, but i actually do agree with your premise. i had hoped to see him stay at least under 2 mil. but when i do think about it, i think its a fair price for what he brings. i think he was a steal for what he made last year and this contract just brings him up to snuff. the reason i find it unfortunate though is that to win a cup you really need to have several value contracts. right now i just see helm as a neutral contract. though i am hoping in the last 2 years he becomes a steal again.
I love Maltby, but to say he wasn't a ****** is a dis-service to his career of douchebaggery.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:42 AM
But, but, how's everyone going to fit Parise, Suter, Doan, Semin, and Garrison on CapGeek now that Helm's making $2,100,000?
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:55 AM
Easy. We just won't re-sign Hudler.But, but, how's everyone going to fit Parise, Suter, Doan, Semin, and Garrison on CapGeek now that Helm's making $2,100,000?
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 12:09 PM
I hope I don't get a lot of negs. I was not calling it a bad signing, or that Helm is a bum and not worth it or that Holland should be fired. I was just hoping for less of a cap hit in order to make sure we have the cash to bid high of the players we need to change this team. I am glad Helm is going to be part of that and hope that he signs again in 4 years to a lifetime contract...I just hope that this trend doesn't continue with the overpayment (around the league) because like I said, it's going to ruin the NHL when the Colton Orr's are making $4M soon...i would imagine you will get a bunch of minuses, but i actually do agree with your premise. i had hoped to see him stay at least under 2 mil. but when i do think about it, i think its a fair price for what he brings. i think he was a steal for what he made last year and this contract just brings him up to snuff. the reason i find it unfortunate though is that to win a cup you really need to have several value contracts. right now i just see helm as a neutral contract. though i am hoping in the last 2 years he becomes a steal again.
That being said, we still have $24M left to spend of Abby, Parise, Suter, Harding & Schultz & Dekeyser & Welsh...so far I haven't lost out on anyone from my wish list! (yet!)
Edited by LeftWinger, 19 June 2012 - 12:09 PM.
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