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#1 dirtydangles

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:28 PM

Now that Staal has rejected a 10 year deal from the Pens, things get interesting. Nash isn't the only high end player possibly on the trading block. Bobby Ryan's name has floated around too. It would be interesting to see how the individual value of the players pans out now that there are multiple options for teams to trade for.

What do you think it would take for each of these guys (considering we trade for 1):

Nash (6 seasons $7.8mill)

Ryan (3 seasons $5.1mill)

Staal (1 season $4mill)

I'd say our top trading asset would be Filppula. Then others include Franzen, Abdelkader, Picks, Prospects. So if we miss out on Semin and Parise who would you prefer, and let's hear what your proposal would be?

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:40 PM

Would love to get Bobby Ryan.

Would trade Filppula, Cleary, Hudler's rights and 1st.

If they didnt want that then I would rather keep the team we have.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:40 PM

Ryan is the most realistic. I doubt Howson will trade with a division rival, and I don't want to take on the risk of Staal not re-signing here after one year. I don't like doing proposals but something like:

Franzen, Abdelkader, Kindl for Ryan, 3rd rounder?

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:42 PM

Stall is not happening, he may get traded this season so Pittsburgh doesn't lose him for nothing, but he has made it clear he wants to play with his brother in Carolina. At least thats what Dreger and Mackenzie were saying on Sportscentre.

If a high end trade is going to happen, it will probably be with and East team. No one in the west is going to trade a star to us without pillaging the farm.

Milan Lucic would be at the top of my list and very realistic I think considering Boston is going to have to sign Him, Marchand, and Seguin to big raises next offseason.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:58 PM

The only reason I see Staal wanting Detroit would be that Z and Dats are almost 10 years older and he would allow them to play together again and he would be guaranteed the future in Detroit unlike Pens who have 2 young unbelievable centres in Crosby and Malkin. Staal is the best fit I think of the 3 but also the youngest.

Lowest price tag would be ryan then staal (because ufa in 1 year) then nash would be highest i bet.

I'd do Franzen, Abby, Jurco, 2nd for Staal at the draft. Abby can be replaced. Franzen is a sniper they want, but his age is an issue so they would want a sexy prospect like Jurco. Then throw in the 2nd rounder.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:56 PM

Would trade Filppula, Cleary, Hudler's rights and 1st.


Filppula > Ryan, which makes that trade beyond ridiculous. I would LOVE Ryan though. Trading for him along with Signing Parise would make our offense sick. Parise with Pav and Franzen and then Ryan, Zetterberg and Filppula? Shiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Not sure how we could trade for him though. I don't think getting rid of Franzen is worth it, unless it's a straight up trade or we get something back along with Ryan.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 09:20 PM

a sexy prospect like Jurco.


I think he is sexy too.

What do you guys think of trading for James van Riemsdyk? He has some great potential and might be slightly cheaper than Staal/Ryan (I actually don't know this for sure; I am just going off stats). Although it might be hard to get him since the Flyers seem to want to use him as trade bait for Nash/Ryan.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 09:31 PM

We are not giving up fil unless the person we get is of = leadership.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:23 PM

Why would we trade with Pittsburgh in the first place? They can try to unload staal, martin, and lovejoy elsewhere

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:45 PM

Now that Staal has rejected a 10 year deal from the Pens, things get interesting. Nash isn't the only high end player possibly on the trading block. Bobby Ryan's name has floated around too. It would be interesting to see how the individual value of the players pans out now that there are multiple options for teams to trade for.

What do you think it would take for each of these guys (considering we trade for 1):

Nash (6 seasons $7.8mill)

Ryan (3 seasons $5.1mill)

Staal (1 season $4mill)

I'd say our top trading asset would be Filppula. Then others include Franzen, Abdelkader, Picks, Prospects. So if we miss out on Semin and Parise who would you prefer, and let's hear what your proposal would be?


And apparently Kane doesn't want to sign with the Jets.
Anyone of those guys would be a great addition for the Wings except Nash, he is way overpayed

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:48 PM

Would love to have Staal or Ryan. We need a top 6 forward if we don't get Parise, Semin and if Hudler doesn't resign. We aren't getting Nash period.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:03 AM

Would love to get Bobby Ryan.

Would trade Filppula, Cleary, Hudler's rights and 1st.

If they didnt want that then I would rather keep the team we have.

Overpayment. Flip 66 pts, Ryan 57. I wouldn't trade Flip 1 for 1 with Ryan at this point. He's been consistently improving and has become Z's Wingman and is doing quite well. And on top of that, Flip's work ethic, hustle and defensive side of the game is more valuable than Ryan's. if Huds walks like he should then this Brunner character could be the 3rd addition to that line.

I'd rather pay less and try to get Van Riemsdyk from the Flyers with a deal that doesn't include Flip. Tatar is trade bait as far as most of us are concerned, so use him and another prospect and pick....this is all assuming Parise goes elsewhere or back to Jersey.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 08:38 AM

Tatar is trade bait as far as most of us are concerned, so use him and another prospect and pick....this is all assuming Parise goes elsewhere or back to Jersey.


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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:05 AM

Now that Staal has rejected a 10 year deal from the Pens, things get interesting. Nash isn't the only high end player possibly on the trading block. Bobby Ryan's name has floated around too. It would be interesting to see how the individual value of the players pans out now that there are multiple options for teams to trade for.

What do you think it would take for each of these guys (considering we trade for 1):

Nash (6 seasons $7.8mill)

Ryan (3 seasons $5.1mill)

Staal (1 season $4mill)

I'd say our top trading asset would be Filppula. Then others include Franzen, Abdelkader, Picks, Prospects. So if we miss out on Semin and Parise who would you prefer, and let's hear what your proposal would be?

For Nash it'll take Zetterberg, or Datsyuk.

For Ryan I'm guessing Franzen, or Filppula, and maybe a draft pick, or prospect.

Stall would probably cost us Franzen, or Filppula.

Overpayment. Flip 66 pts, Ryan 57. I wouldn't trade Flip 1 for 1 with Ryan at this point. He's been consistently improving and has become Z's Wingman and is doing quite well. And on top of that, Flip's work ethic, hustle and defensive side of the game is more valuable than Ryan's. if Huds walks like he should then this Brunner character could be the 3rd addition to that line.

I'd rather pay less and try to get Van Riemsdyk from the Flyers with a deal that doesn't include Flip. Tatar is trade bait as far as most of us are concerned, so use him and another prospect and pick....this is all assuming Parise goes elsewhere or back to Jersey.

Personally I'd take a Ryan for Filppula in a heartbeat.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:34 AM

The thing is, if we trade fil for a winger, we need to find another future top 2 centre to replace him (maybe Jarnkrok). It would make sense to replace Franzen (winger) with Ryan (winger) and then we add to make it even. Would cost a lot more than franzen though.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:34 AM

ryan for filppula isnt even close.

4 years scoring 30 goals is quite an accomplishment to say the least... and at 25 years old? get real people... flip is a solid 2nd liner... ryan is a bonafide 1st line sniper, gonna take a lot more then filppula for sure

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:40 AM

The thing is, if we trade fil for a winger, we need to find another future top 2 centre to replace him (maybe Jarnkrok). It would make sense to replace Franzen (winger) with Ryan (winger) and then we add to make it even. Would cost a lot more than franzen though.

Well - I'm thinking Dats as the #1 center, Hank as our #2, and Helm at #3...Yes - in 2, or 3 years there may be some issues with a top 2 centerman, but that's a bridge Holland would have to cross when he got to it if he were to move Flip for Ryan.


ryan for filppula isnt even close.

4 years scoring 30 goals is quite an accomplishment to say the least... and at 25 years old? get real people... flip is a solid 2nd liner... ryan is a bonafide 1st line sniper.


Agreed...Ryan would make us forget all about Flip...Kinda like how we didn't miss Schneider when Holland signed Rafalski.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 11:35 AM

Now that Staal has rejected a 10 year deal from the Pens, things get interesting. Nash isn't the only high end player possibly on the trading block. Bobby Ryan's name has floated around too. It would be interesting to see how the individual value of the players pans out now that there are multiple options for teams to trade for.

What do you think it would take for each of these guys (considering we trade for 1):

Nash (6 seasons $7.8mill)

Ryan (3 seasons $5.1mill)

Staal (1 season $4mill)

I'd say our top trading asset would be Filppula. Then others include Franzen, Abdelkader, Picks, Prospects. So if we miss out on Semin and Parise who would you prefer, and let's hear what your proposal would be?


I have zero interest in Nash's bloated contract. He's signed way too long for that cap hit. Add to that the fact that he's never scored 80pts and only topped 70pts once in his career and I can't justify adding him as one of the top 10 highest paid forwards in the league.

No one will want Abdelkader-- he's unsigned and unproductive offensively. Sure he hits and plays a gritty game but guys like that are a dime a dozen.

I'd be happy to get Staal or Ryan, although Staal would be a foolish choice unless you could garuntee he would sign an extension.
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 11:55 AM

The guy the Wings really need to jump on is Yandle. Spector's Hockey is reporting that Yandle is on the trading block right now. That kid can flat out play (offensively and defensively). He's a young defenseman who could win a Norris one day.
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Posted 22 June 2012 - 12:11 PM

The guy the Wings really need to jump on is Yandle. Spector's Hockey is reporting that Yandle is on the trading block right now. That kid can flat out play (offensively and defensively). He's a young defenseman who could win a Norris one day.


I like that idea.... but who would it cost us? I'm not sure we have the pieces to offer anything comparable.





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