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#41 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 10:28 PM

Every article I read mentioned Kronwall, Datsyuk or Zetterberg. Some even mentioned Mule. It would make sense since the first 3 actually were assistants and therefore team leaders.

Maybe if it was Winnipeg or Minnesota where they have the revolving captain every month, yeah I could see that. But not captain of the Detroit Red Wings.

It's OK if you want to believe that, go ahead. But it's not going to happen. You're obviously a super fan for some reason, and hey, here's to ya. We all have our favorite players and he is yours. We're both Red Wing fans and that's cool. But I am hoping he won't be in the lineup next year. I think this team needs a shakeup in personnel and philosophy of play. That's my perogative and what I think is better for the team, given the right deal.


read the article about Z being the next captain. Flip sits beside Z now cause he's the next captain and he's gonna groom Flip to be his apparent heir so he's most likely not going anywhere. and also probably why Holland offered him 5 years at 15 mil last time his contract was due. he's got that potential. great team guy and leads by example, just like Z.

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#42 Z and D for the C

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:21 AM

Every article I read mentioned Kronwall, Datsyuk or Zetterberg. Some even mentioned Mule. It would make sense since the first 3 actually were assistants and therefore team leaders.


I could write an article about Hudler being captain. The fact is Nick Lidstrom said that Filppula is captain material. I'm sold. I'm not saying Filppula will or should be the next captain. Does that mean he isn't captain material? No. Filppula would do very well with the C.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:20 AM

People forget he scored 96 pts in the AHL. As good as Tatar and Nyquist are they haven't scored 96 pts in the minors.


I personally don't like how much stock people put into AHL numbers. Some players go nuts in the AHL, but then do nothing in the NHL. Some players are disappointments in the AHL and then become crucial players.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:44 AM

Yup. There have been games where Filppula takes over. I'm not saying it happens all the time, but he's done it multiple times before. It's all in how much drive he has. The more responsibility he is given, the better he performes. (which is why if he was given the C, not that I think it will/should happen, he would be a beast)

You could take the exact same statement and switch the name to Fedorov. Not equating Flip to Feds, just this statement. Uncanny.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:59 AM

I personally don't like how much stock people put into AHL numbers. Some players go nuts in the AHL, but then do nothing in the NHL. Some players are disappointments in the AHL and then become crucial players.

Ken and Mick will never let us forget that Maltby scored 50.
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#46 Z and D for the C

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:01 PM

Not equating Flip to Feds, just this statement.


Too late, I'm running with it. Filppula = the next Fedorov.

Edited by Z and D for the C, 23 June 2012 - 05:01 PM.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:09 PM

Too late, I'm running with it. Filppula = the next Fedorov.

and that's a career for Flip...I remember two season's ago when someone said Franzen is the next Fedorov (after Francine's 5 goal outburst in Ottawa) and look what happened to him....poor Francine...Holland! Trade him right f****** now!

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:11 AM

and that's a career for Flip...I remember two season's ago when someone said Franzen is the next Fedorov (after Francine's 5 goal outburst in Ottawa) and look what happened to him....poor Francine...Holland! Trade him right f****** now!


Franzen for Blake Wheeler + prospect/pick?

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#49 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:28 AM

Do people really think other teams actually want Franzen? I don't unfortunately.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:32 AM

Guys, we have to be realistic here. Kenny has a very hard job to do and it takes alot of patience, knowledge and due dilgence to improve this hockey team. All 29 other teams are trying to improve themselves so Kenny has alot of competition. Here is a roster I think is very realistic for next season. One which I feel Kenny can achieve if things go his way this summer...


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m)
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Daniel Sedin ($6.100m)
Steven Stamkos ($7.500m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Corey Perry ($5.325m)
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Anze Kopitar ($6.800m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($8.000m) / Ryan Suter ($7.000m)
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Kris Letang ($3.500m)
Erik Karlsson ($6.500m) / Drew Doughty ($7.000m)
Keith Yandle ($5.250m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Jonathan Quick ($1.800m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $149,605,128; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster):- $79,305,128


Come on Kenny, get er done! :colgate:
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:47 AM

The Twitterverse claims Phoenix will want a center in any deal for Yandle.
I wonder how Shane Doan feels about them trading their #1 Defenseman?


I wonder what Doan thinks of him and Yandle in a little pkg dealio?? Yes Please.
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:42 PM

Do people really think other teams actually want Franzen?


Yes. Though I might change "want" to "would want" - i.e. Holland has to "put it out there."

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:44 PM

Guys, we have to be realistic here. Kenny has a very hard job to do and it takes alot of patience, knowledge and due dilgence to improve this hockey team. All 29 other teams are trying to improve themselves so Kenny has alot of competition. Here is a roster I think is very realistic for next season. One which I feel Kenny can achieve if things go his way this summer...


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m)
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Daniel Sedin ($6.100m)
Steven Stamkos ($7.500m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Corey Perry ($5.325m)
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Anze Kopitar ($6.800m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($8.000m) / Ryan Suter ($7.000m)
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Kris Letang ($3.500m)
Erik Karlsson ($6.500m) / Drew Doughty ($7.000m)
Keith Yandle ($5.250m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Jonathan Quick ($1.800m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $149,605,128; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster):- $79,305,128


Come on Kenny, get er done! :colgate:

hmmm...... i think you may be onto something...

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:06 PM

I know everyone wanted Holland to make a trade on Draft day but with the UFA bidding war set for July 1st, I don't think he wanted to take on any salary and possibly lose out on Parise or Suter, or both.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:39 AM

I really don't know why we should consider trading Flip... He's the Pavel/Henrik hybrid.

As far as I remember (I could be wrong) Flip was great on Dats line (Dat's is the man)

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Exactly. I don't see us trading Filp at all. We've waited this long to produce how we knew he could, not just to trade him. He also sits next to Z in the locker room, indicating that he's going to have an A and will likely be the next C for a few years after Z's done unless someone more fitting comes along. I like Filp and he played great last season and we need him to continue right where he left off next season.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:58 AM

Do people really think other teams actually want Franzen? I don't unfortunately.


i live in NC now and hockey fans down here are shocked, SHOCKED when i tell them that there are those of us who don't like franzen.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:31 AM

i live in NC now and hockey fans down here are shocked, SHOCKED when i tell them that there are those of us who don't like franzen.


They likely remember the playoff hero Franzen who scored goals at will in the Colorado series in 2008. They don't see the lazy floating Franzen who shows up about once every 2 weeks. That being said, he is still our best goal scorer. Imagine how many goals he would score if he showed up each game and gave a crap.
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#58 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:30 PM

Franzen for Blake Wheeler + prospect/pick?

Jets already have Antrofloat so Franzen would just be overkill, and Wheeler is loved in Winnipeg. It would take an act of god to get Wheeler to the Wings, but he would get a kickass nick name of Winged Wheeler if he came to the Wings. And no way the Jets are giving up Wheeler and a pick/prospect for Franzen. Wheeler is gonna top 70 points this coming season if he can get another linemate with some high end skill and finish when he dangles through the opposing team and dishes it to a wide open guy for an easy goal.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:46 AM

Yeah, well, Franzen runs on anger. And joy. And he scored five goals in a game once.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:51 AM

I like that idea.... but who would it cost us? I'm not sure we have the pieces to offer anything comparable.

a lot... i don't think its happening without smith unless fil AND franzen+ go back. Rather go Schultz and Suter. Then pick up some more talent next offseason.

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