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#101 Matt

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:26 PM

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:26 PM

Justin Schultz ($5.000m)


Hmm....WHAT? :dance:

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:59 AM

Hmm....WHAT? :dance:


I have no idea what he's going demand. Looked it up, found nothing. He's going to be the second most coveted free agent defenseman, isn't he? What's that command?

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 01:33 AM

I love you guys lol. I was actually in the middle of putting together a cap geek spread, but my ride pulled in.


...almost 4 mil left in cap space with this glorious roster too

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.000m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($7.000m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Justin Schultz ($5.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,617,045; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,682,955


Schultz won't make 5 mil, but other than that these are pretty good.

I have no idea what he's going demand. Looked it up, found nothing. He's going to be the second most coveted free agent defenseman, isn't he? What's that command?


I think there is a limit and it is under 1 mil. Anyone know the real number?

Edit: From a Hockey News article:

"The thing about Schultz is that money will not be the issue here. Every team that makes an offer on him will do so knowing it will have to absorb a $3.8 million salary cap hit next season - $925,000 in base salary, $850,000 in signing bonus and $2 million in performance bonuses – on a three-year deal."

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 07:45 AM

Ok...here is my $70M roster including Brunner (dunno what his salary will be, so I just put $1M to be safe) and my above proposed week of ecstasy with acquiring Ryan (Schultz) along with scoring Suter/Parise....

I traded away Franzen, Mursak, Emmerton & Kindl...not all for Ryan, but I got rid of these guys none-the-less... Of course I am still adamant about siging DeKeyser and Welsh, So until it DOESN'T happen then I will continue to post it! :lol: I now have put Montoya as Howard's back-up...


FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Damien Brunner ($1.000m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jeremy Welsh ($1.100m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($1.100m)
Danny DeKeyser ($0.825m) /

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Al Montoya ($1.000m)
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SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,070,833; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,229,167


Ryan would cost at least Filppula/Franzen + Nyquist/Smith + 2nd.

(Off-topic, sorry.)

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:27 AM

His skillset is useless to be buried on gthe 4th line dump and chasing - and at 26 its sink or swim time. We cant afford to "groom" him in the AHL for a year or two just to bring him up to ride pine. This guy the the skillset of an NHL players and very well could succeed and put up respectable numbers playing with Pav or Z. At the same time he could get crushed into dust and lose his confidence inside of the first month. Hell be given enough rope to hang himself - and if he doesnt fit, hell be snipped by December. Give the guy a shot, I like what I see.
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*if we get a Parise or Semin then bump Franzen or Nyquist back to the 3rd line with Helm and Bert.


Better yet, trade Francine for a player that cares enough for his teamates to put forth an effort.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:27 AM

Man, Babcock is sure taking a lot of heat on the comment section of that MLive article. Really unfair I think. I don't remember him ever saying Brunnstrom and Nyquist were going to play the Top 6 straight upon their arrival. I remember him saying Nyquist will one day be a top 6, but not necessarily at that moment.

I dare to get my hopes up on this Brunner experiment.
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:53 AM

"I stood in the hall and let him walk by me," Babcock said.


:lol:, what does that mean??
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:56 AM

I bet this means "we are happy with our team" since we get our top 6 forward.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:25 AM

I bet this means "we are happy with our team" since we get our top 6 forward.


Brunner + Quincey + Abdelkader = Cup in 2013.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:39 AM

I don`t like awarding a top 6 spot to a guy who has never played in the NHL before. However I recall when Franzen came over from Sweden he had a guaranteed spot as well and stepped right in. Babs knows alot more than me so if he likes him then he must be a decent player at least. Right? I still want Parise and Prust.
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:41 AM

We've been there before,having top 6 players playing on the bottom lines,so there's nothing wrong with the Babs statement.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:44 AM

I don`t like awarding a top 6 spot to a guy who has never played in the NHL before. However I recall when Franzen came over from Sweden he had a guaranteed spot as well and stepped right in. Babs knows alot more than me so if he likes him then he must be a decent player at least. Right? I still want Parise and Prust.


Franzen played 3rd and 4th line minutes the first 2 years. Guaranteed a spot? What?
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:46 AM

Franzen never played a game in the AHL. He came over from Sweden and stepped right into the line-up. I remember when Holland signed him that Kenny said he would be on the team. If that isn't a guaranteed spot then I don't know what is.
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We need someone like Parise that can penetrate the box.-blueadams

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:55 AM

There are high hopes and expectations due to the fact we need more offense even if Hudler was to stay (he is more than likely gone).

Realistically, we need a top 6 forward or two... Unless Kenny gets Parise or someone else of equal caliber, Brunner will be scrutinized heavily.

The guy may need a season to adjust and see how things turn out... Don't put all your eggs into one basket folks if he doesn't become the next Teemu or Stamkos.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 10:32 AM

"I stood in the hall and let him walk by me," Babcock said.


:lol:, what does that mean??


There were a ton of gem babcock quotes in that article lol. He was talking about scouting him (watching him all week - in games and practice) around this point. So I'm guessing it just means that he saw him up close and personal, sized him up.

And/or looked him in the eye lol

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 10:37 AM

I'm leaning towards the high-end on all of these signings. Parise - 8mil. Suter - 8 mil. Schultz - 3.8 mil (if that report is correct, that's the max). Brunner - 2 mil (no idea, but I think his contract is restricted too, and that's probably more than the max). Abdelkader - 1.5 mil (more than he deserves).

And there's STILL left-over cap space.

This might actually happen.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($2.000m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($3.800m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,917,045; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,382,955

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 10:40 AM

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($7.000m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Justin Schultz ($5.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /


Blue, blue, blue... You've done enough of these, it's like you live on capgeek, that it should be instinctual by now that all entry level contracts are capped. Have to give you a finger wag on the slip up. Come on blue, you're better than that! :no:

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:12 PM

I don`t like awarding a top 6 spot to a guy who has never played in the NHL before. However I recall when Franzen came over from Sweden he had a guaranteed spot as well and stepped right in. Babs knows alot more than me so if he likes him then he must be a decent player at least. Right? I still want Parise and Prust.

The thing is, he's not really awarding him a spot. It's just something he said to a reporter. Probably in part to boost the guy's confidence, show his faith in him, and maybe guard against Holland wanting to bury him in the minors.

Once the season starts he may get a shot at the top six but he's gonna have to earn it to stay there.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:02 PM

Why is anyone mad about what Babs said? Its not like the lines are set in stone.

So he plays the first 5 games in the top 6... if he doesn't work out there, the lines WILL be shuffled. That's how Babcock works.

I highly, highly doubt this means the Wings are done with forwards in free agency.
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