VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 30, 2012 What about trading Franzen, Filppula, and a pick(depends on the pick) for Nash? Cap wise both teams would be pretty close to what they are now, so the Wings could get Nash, Parise, and Suter while giving up Mule and Flip. Not saying CBJ would want those two nor am I sold on the idea of doing this but if Kenny feels like he needs to shake up the team, somewhat like LA & Philly has, why not consider this? That's probably what it would take, but I'm not sure if giving up both Franzen and Flip is a good idea. Remember, we're likely losing Hudler, so if we lose Franzen there go our two top scorers. Nash and Parise are great an all, but goal-wise we'd probably be pretty similar, not improved. What we would see would be an increase in dirty goals and hard work, which is nice, but... I say give up Flip and plug in a scoring winger. Lazy as he is, I still like Franzen and think he will have a rebound year in 2012-13. I'd rather have something like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Nash, Parise and Franzen than the same core without him, you know? If at all possible I want Holland to make this team absolutely top-heavy. I want to see the Wings dominate and have one of their "destined to win it all" years, especially since we wouldn't be mortgaging our future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) Now that I think about this I'd trade either Franzen or Filppula in some kind of package for Nash, then sign the best available winger in free agency and go with that. Also, I really don't think it's that unrealistic to think that Columbus would bite on a Franzen trade. You've giving up a lot of goals in Nash and would definitely want some coming back the other way. Franzen is going to consistently give you 25-30 goals and his cap hit is super reasonable. With the right package I think you could land Nash for that, but for whatever reason the Wings have some misplaced committment to Franzen that they won't get past. think it has something to do with Frazen being Swedish? Take it now if Holmstrom retires we go down another Swedish dude. Nyquist though is Swedish so he makes up for Nick or Homer if he makes the roster. For Swedes then we have, Hank, Franzen, Kronners, Big E and Nyquist. But on regards to Nash thinking Nash could be a plan C or something for Holland but I doubt it. Edited June 30, 2012 by St. Michael (the Red Wing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBflinker 29 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Carolina and Detroit are in a strong competition with New York Rangers for Rick Nash. Nothing imminent. Canes said to be pushing hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Exactly. Look back on when Nash has played the Wings. With the terrible line-mates he is always with always still manages to score against he Wings quite a fair bit even with Datsyuk or Zetterbergs line and Lidstrom against him. just think what he could do playing with Pavel. It's an intriguing thought I must admit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 I don't want that cap hit. 7.8 is absurd. I don't want anyone at 7.8 right now. Plus I can't see us giving up a center and a defenseman and we don't have the goalie they want... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Don't want Nash, but Franzen, Nyquist, pick, adman not named Smith and pick might do it. Hopefully if it flys, we hold on to flip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YMHC 23 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Larry Brooks NYP_Brooksie @ Told that Red Wing offer for Nash is not competitive...Carolina, Ottawa, Philly not on 61's list. 9:58pm - 1 jul 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Larry Brooks NYP_Brooksie @ Told that Red Wing offer for Nash is not competitive...Carolina, Ottawa, Philly not on 61's list. 9:58pm - 1 jul 12 Good ... don't want. 1 YMHC reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Just read that Detroit is back in on Nash? Any truth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Eklund says the wings are putting together a MEGA deal for Nash E4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Eklund says the wings are putting together a MEGA deal for Nash E4. If Eklund is reporting it then there is a 1% chance that it happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AusWing40 61 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Eklund says the wings are putting together a MEGA deal for Nash E4. eklund. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Please Columbus, don't trade Nash to a Western Conference team, you'll regret it. I can't imagine who we are losing for Nash. Did Nash even say he would waive NTC for Detroit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Well that just convinced me Detroit pulled out any offer they had for Nash and now have no interest what so ever. Isn't Eklund mostly just ripping off the TSN guys Twitter feeds these days? He's got to be one of the silliest if not the silliest voice in hockey these days. Before he just posted utter and complete random drivel, now he seems to just rip off people with some small semblance of credibility. It's sad that he's making money doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Isn't Eklund mostly just ripping off the TSN guys Twitter feeds these days? He's got to be one of the silliest if not the silliest voice in hockey these days. Before he just posted utter and complete random drivel, now he seems to just rip off people with some small semblance of credibility. It's sad that he's making money doing that. I have been follwing him on twitter and he has not been even close yet today. That would suggest that he can't even rip TSN people off properly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 I have been follwing him on twitter and he has not been even close yet today. That would suggest that he can't even rip TSN people off properly I was talking about his amazing monument to mediocrity at www.hockeybuzz.com. I forgot he even had a Twitter. Most of what he seems to post on his website today comes a few minutes after McKenzie or Dreger says something. It's amusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 You wouldn't trade flip, Franzen and a pick for Nash? Would CBJ take it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 You wouldn't trade flip, Franzen and a pick for Nash? Would CBJ take it? Not a chance on earth would I make that deal. Filppula put up more pts than Nash on his own last season, in fewer minutes, while Franzen put up only 3 fewer than Nash. Yet somehow Nash gets paid more than both of them combined. I wouldn't trade Filppula for Nash straight up. 1 steverman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 Even if we dont get Parise, give me Semin instead... Even at the same cap hit at least we wont be losing assets. 1 Marty Barry reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 I'd rather have Nash than Pairise. Nash definitely has 50 goal potential... I hope we keep Franzen in this deal. We'll have goal scoters throughout the lineup Sammy, Nash, Franzen and our bottom 6 is quite solid I must say 4 Wingsfan72, puckloo39, kylee and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 1, 2012 I'd rather have Nash than Pairise. Nash definitely has 50 goal potential... I hope we keep Franzen in this deal. We'll have goal scoters throughout the lineup Sammy, Nash, Franzen and our bottom 6 is quite solid I must say Parise's a better player overall. And he's no slouch in the goal-scoring department. Think, if he can score 30 goals on the Devils, what could he do with Dats feeding him the puck? I do like the idea of Nash, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 2, 2012 franzen kindl gustavvsson 1st probably what it would take meh rather upgrade the defense or PK 2 Marty Barry and FlashyG reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted July 2, 2012 I'm all for Nash ... IMO Nash > Parise in every category !!! Nash is a monster we get this guy and oh boy ... Nash & Suter on this team we'd be amazing and his cap is not that bad 7.8 for a Nash caliber player ... better then Parise at 8m. over! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,962 Report post Posted July 2, 2012 Darren Dreger reporting on Twitter that Carolina, Detroit, and Rags are in on a Rick Nash trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fixxxer 11 Report post Posted July 2, 2012 What about trading Franzen, Filppula, and a pick(depends on the pick) for Nash? Cap wise both teams would be pretty close to what they are now, so the Wings could get Nash, Parise, and Suter while giving up Mule and Flip. Not saying CBJ would want those two nor am I sold on the idea of doing this but if Kenny feels like he needs to shake up the team, somewhat like LA & Philly has, why not consider this? CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Zach Parise ($7.500m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($0.850m) Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.750m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / (NaN) / DEFENSEMEN Ryan Suter ($7.500m) / Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) Ian White ($2.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.500m) Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Joey MacDonald ($0.550m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,112,500; BONUSES: $37,500 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,087,500 /drool talkin about pipedream lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
