stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) **DISCLAIMER** I apologize for posting yet ANOTHER crazy roster suggestion, but as it's a couple days away from 7/1 and, well, I'm bored... here goes... Second disclaimer - I'm aware of the unliklihood of the trade being made, just wondering what everyone would think if this could get pulled off... Part One, FA signings: Ryan Sutter Damien Brunner Alex Semin Part Two, Trades: To CGY: Franzen, Kindl, Quincey To Det: Iginla, Boumeester *******ONLY FORMATTED THIS WAY FOR LAYOUT - NOT LINE SUGGESTIONS***** FORWARDS Damien Brunner ($1.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($4.500m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) / DEFENSEMEN Ryan Suter ($7.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m) Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) DOug Janik ($0.550m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Joey MacDonald ($0.550m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,475,833; BONUSES: $37,500 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,724,167 Carry on with ripping this apart now Hell, even I acknowledge how crazy this is, but it's fun to think about! EDIT - Compensation edited after deeper thought and insight Edited June 30, 2012 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 Omg!!!111 this is so stupid. You are crazy. Brunner on the first line????? Also, that trade will never happen. No one will take Franzen's lifetime contract. He is lazy and he sucks. ;-) 1 stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 Throw Cleary and the obligatory bag of pucks in and we have a deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 No way i'd trade that much for those two. Bouwmeester is overrated and Iginla is nearing the end of his career. Neither one is worth their cap hit either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 Throw Cleary and the obligatory bag of pucks in and we have a deal. I honestly think Cleary is going to have a bounce back year... he takes a lot of flack, but the guy plays with a lot of heart, you can never have too much of that and I'll give him a pass for his last season due to the knees... now, if he has another year like last, then, fair enough, we need to start talking about him moving on... No way i'd trade that much for those two. Bouwmeester is overrated and Iginla is nearing the end of his career. Neither one is worth their cap hit either. Boumeester would fit our style amazingly, and I think would flourish here, Iginla is on the last year of his deal, and he'd bring a lot of fire for a cup, plus a toughness and a bonafide scorer in the league (not to mention PP specialist) With that said, maybe dial back the picks to one, but I think this deal would favor us, not Calgary to be honest, even with the two picks... I just don't think Calgary would take it, that's why I don't think it would happen... 2 MabusIncarnate and xBflinker reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 Blue is that you?=) I have always wanted Iginla but that sure is a lot to give up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 I honestly think Cleary is going to have a bounce back year... he takes a lot of flack, but the guy plays with a lot of heart, you can never have too much of that and I'll give him a pass for his last season due to the knees... now, if he has another year like last, then, fair enough, we need to start talking about him moving on... Boumeester would fit our style amazingly, and I think would flourish here, Iginla is on the last year of his deal, and he'd bring a lot of fire for a cup, plus a toughness and a bonafide scorer in the league (not to mention PP specialist) With that said, maybe dial back the picks to one, but I think this deal would favor us, not Calgary to be honest, even with the two picks... I just don't think Calgary would take it, that's why I don't think it would happen... Don't get me wrong, i'd love to have Iginla. I'm tired of seeing all our first round picks get traded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Blue is that you?=) I have always wanted Iginla but that sure is a lot to give up. You dirty bastard, haha I agree it'd be steep, but you got to give to get... Don't get me wrong, i'd love to have Iginla. I'm tired of seeing all our first round picks get traded. Fair enough, I wonder if we could get it done on players and prospects alone... you bring up a very valid point about the picks Edited June 30, 2012 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 That is a terrible trade for the Wings. We trade a 25-30 goal scorer with one of the best value contracts in the league, our highest draft pick of the past 20 years and the rights to a 25-40pt defenceman. We get back a 33 yr old former superstar who will produce slightly more than Franzen for almost twice the caphit, and a defenceman who has not played a single playoff game in his 9 years in the NHL, who produces no more than the player we are giving up for him despite receiving a paycheck worth more than double, and then you want us to add draft picks on top of that? I like Iginla but that kind of package is more suited for landing Malkin, Ovechkin or Crosby than it is for Iggy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 That is a terrible trade for the Wings. We trade a 25-30 goal scorer with one of the best value contracts in the league, our highest draft pick of the past 20 years and the rights to a 25-40pt defenceman. We get back a 33 yr old former superstar who will produce slightly more than Franzen for almost twice the caphit, and a defenceman who has not played a single playoff game in his 9 years in the NHL, who produces no more than the player we are giving up for him despite receiving a paycheck worth more than double, and then you want us to add draft picks on top of that? I like Iginla but that kind of package is more suited for landing Malkin, Ovechkin or Crosby than it is for Iggy. While I may have shot too high in the interest of trying to not look at the trade with red colored glasses on, you are WAY over valuing our pieces in the deal... You have to give to get and Iginla and Boumeester are both very valuable assets... Also, Iggy still put up over 30 goals last year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 I know we'd have to give to get, but has anyone in the history of the game ever been swapped for 3 roster players, and 2 first round picks? Especially for a 33 year old who has only 1 year left on his deal and a defenceman that is offered up in every trade proposal involving the Flames because he's been nothing but a disappointment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 I know we'd have to give to get, but has anyone in the history of the game ever been swapped for 3 roster players, and 2 first round picks? Especially for a 33 year old who has only 1 year left on his deal and a defenceman that is offered up in every trade proposal involving the Flames because he's been nothing but a disappointment? I openly admitted that I may have shot too far in the other direction in attempts to not be a homer... So take away the picks and/or change them, I still think this trade would make sense for both parties... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 I'd take Giordano over Bouwmeester and any NHL player over Semin but other than that it's a solid looking lineup. Being kinda sarcastic about Semin but my fellow Semin haters get where i'm coming from. We don't need first round picks anyway, we get our talent in the late rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 I'd take Giordano over Bouwmeester and any NHL player over Semin but other than that it's a solid looking lineup. Being kinda sarcastic about Semin but my fellow Semin haters get where i'm coming from. We don't need first round picks anyway, we get our talent in the late rounds. I don't think Calgary would move Gio, but I'd be down with that too... As for the picks, well played, haha 1 MabusIncarnate reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 No I highly doubt they would either. Giordano is very Girardi-like in his style, physical Dman that will block a ton of shots. Great young talent, but realistically Calgary would be dumb to move him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) **DISCLAIMER** I apologize for posting yet ANOTHER crazy roster suggestion, but as it's a couple days away from 7/1 and, well, I'm bored... here goes... Second disclaimer - I'm aware of the unliklihood of the trade being made, just wondering what everyone would think if this could get pulled off... Part One, FA signings: Ryan Sutter Damien Brunner Alex Semin Part Two, Trades: To CGY: Franzen, Kindl, Quincey and two first round picks To Det: Iginla, Boumeester ONLY FORMATTED THIS WAY FOR LAYOUT - NOT LINE SUGGESTIONS FORWARDS Damien Brunner ($1.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($4.500m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) / DEFENSEMEN Ryan Suter ($7.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m) Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) DOug Janik ($0.550m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Joey MacDonald ($0.550m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,475,833; BONUSES: $37,500 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,724,167 Carry on with ripping this apart now Hell, even I acknowledge how crazy this is, but it's fun to think about! I'm going to call you out here, but in fairness this is a gripe that I have with almost every line thread on this site. That's my disclaimer to here goes... Drew Miller is a MUCH better forward than Justin Abdelkader. By almost every measure he out performs Abby. I like Abby, I want him on the team and all. But why is Miller always the odd man out on these line combos? I certainly hope it's not because "Abby's a big bodied guy and one of the few on the team that is physical" because he really isn't that big, or that physical. Please explain your rationale for me. Again, I'm only calling you out because this is the most recent time I've seen this, but you're by no means the only person who's done it. Edited June 29, 2012 by kipwinger 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 I'm going to call you out here, but in fairness this is a gripe that I have with almost every line thread on this site. That's my disclaimer to here goes... Drew Miller is a MUCH better forward than Justin Abdelkader. My almost every measure he out performs Abby. I like Abby, I want him on the team and all. But why is Miller always the odd man out on these line combos? I certainly hope it's not because "Abby's a big bodied guy and one of the few on the team that is physical" because he really isn't that big, or that physical. Please explain your rationale for me. Again, I'm only calling you out because this is the most recent time I've seen this, but you're by no means the only person who's done it. Darth Miller just doesn't have the same ring to it. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 When was the last time the Wings had two right handed shooters on the same line, let alone the top line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) I'm going to call you out here, but in fairness this is a gripe that I have with almost every line thread on this site. That's my disclaimer to here goes... Drew Miller is a MUCH better forward than Justin Abdelkader. By almost every measure he out performs Abby. I like Abby, I want him on the team and all. But why is Miller always the odd man out on these line combos? I certainly hope it's not because "Abby's a big bodied guy and one of the few on the team that is physical" because he really isn't that big, or that physical. Please explain your rationale for me. Again, I'm only calling you out because this is the most recent time I've seen this, but you're by no means the only person who's done it. Re-read my post, those weren't line suggestions, that was merely for formatting, whoever earns the time gets it as far as I'm concerned... I don't play the line suggestion game... Edited June 29, 2012 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 Bouwmeester is way overpayed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Re-read my post, those weren't line suggestions, that was merely for formatting, whoever earns the time gets it as far as I'm concerned... I don't play the line suggestion game... Fair enough, the way you wrote it made it look like Miller and Mursak listed as the 13th and 14th forwards, and I clearly didn't read the disclaimer above the layout. My bad for jumping to conclusions. Edited June 29, 2012 by kipwinger 1 stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) YUCK! Edited June 29, 2012 by Hockey13Playa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 29, 2012 Bouwmeester is crap for what he's paid. He can skate fast. Yay. Not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,953 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Not that this is NHL 2013 nor would Columbus accept a bunch of junk, but I would love to acquire Nash somehow, along with getting rid of Franzen, Cleary, Mursak, Emmeton, Kindl, a prospect or two and draft picks... Man if some kind of combo of those players/picks would get Nash here, I would be on cloud 900! With the open spots we have now an then dumping Franzines and Cleary's salary, we could add Parise/Meuller/Semin along with having Nash....ya ya, total fantasy world, I know, but wow that would send a message to the NHL! edit: nah, nevermind, I cannot fit all those guys under the Cap on capgeek....but if we lost out on the Parise sweeps and still acquired Nash we could get Semin and Meuller and Garrison and Suter... also for some odd reason, I go to "cap calculator" on capgeek and Parise is not listed under NJD as a UFA.... so I came up with this crazy roster! (I only brought Sproul up because he was the next highest D on the prospects list....I let Quincey walk and I traded Kindl) FORWARDS Alexander Semin ($5.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m) Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.000m) Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Peter Mueller ($2.750m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Brandon Prust ($1.200m) Justin Abdelkader ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m) Ian White ($2.875m) / Jason Garrison ($0.985m) Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Ryan Sproul ($0.925m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Al Montoya ($0.875m) ------ SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,180,833; BONUSES: $320,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,019,167 Edited June 29, 2012 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted June 30, 2012 Montoya is a steal at 0.875 mil per. Good goalie rarely given a chance in NY regardless of how well he plays, he has an opportunity to shine on a good team. 2 55fan and stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
