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[rick zombo]

From the Twitter gibberish above.

It appeared for a bit Sunday night that the bidding for Suter was over, and he was going to sign with Detroit. But that report appeard premature. Although many have believed for months that the Red Wingswere the favorite to sign Suter away from the Predators, it didn't happen or wasn't all that close to happening. If it were, he would have signed the deal by now.

Nice one-way journalism. If Holland was out of the Suter sweepstakes he’d have signed Carle, Rozsival, or Salvador by now.

[ozone923]

Are we sure about this? I know minnesota has cap space an so do we. It really looks like they want to go to the same team. So what's the competition for teams to sign both?

Pens have 10 million in space right now. We have 16.8. Before the start of the season, teams can overspend by 7mil... Giving both wings and pens chance to grab both, although it's far more realistic for us.

[dirtydangles]

With just Suter we look okay...

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($7.500m) / Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,583,712; BONUSES: $462,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $6,616,288

Preferably we would sign Semin and Trade for a top end forward (Nash/Ryan). But I'm preparing myself to see this.

[Dabura]

With just Suter we look okay...

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($7.500m) / Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,583,712; BONUSES: $462,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $6,616,288

Preferably we would sign Semin and Trade for a top end forward (Nash/Ryan). But I'm preparing myself to see this.

With all due respect...that top-6 makes me want to cry. In a bad way.

[joesuffP]

We HAVE to get suter... If we don't get Parise I think holland will trade for Nash or Ryan... Holland seems like getting a big top 6 player is going to be a priority and once these clowns decide where to sign then holland can make some moves

[kylee]

I hate Twitter's popularity in times like thius because everyone thinks they're Bob McKenzie. All the Twitter nonsense aside, im still hopeful we at least get Suter AND a scoring winger in some fashion or another.

[stevkrause]

With all due respect...that top-6 makes me want to cry. In a bad way.

what if you saw that roster now, then we landed Shea Weber and Jerome Iginla next year when they hit FA?

I'm not saying it has a chance in hell of happening, that this year wouldn't suck, or that it'll even be an option... I'm just saying it, because, well, it's July 2nd at 10:30 pm EST, we still don't have Suter, and what the hell else is there to talk about

[dirtydangles]

With all due respect...that top-6 makes me want to cry. In a bad way.

ME TOO lol. but i could see holland doing it... he doesn't have the stones to make a big trade nowadays.

[haroldsnepsts]

I hate Twitter's popularity in times like thius because everyone thinks they're Bob McKenzie. All the Twitter nonsense aside, im still hopeful we at least get Suter AND a scoring winger in some fashion or another.

That's why at times like this you can pretty much only listen to McKenzie and Dreger.

Everyone else tries to break the story because they dont' have to worry about being wrong most of the time.

[LeftWinger]

God I hope we land Suter.... Land him and trade for Nash.... Bingo!

[cupforwings]

We need Suter for sure. But I don't think Holland will stand pat with the top 6. He has said that he is looking to make a trade, most likely for Nash. If you add Nash with Flip and Franzen's salary, you still have room for Semin as well. That would be a dream scenario, but I imagine they have something like this in mind. Parise isn't worth 10 million... not a chance.

[frankgrimes]

I don't understand, why people are still thinking Twitter of the Crapbook are legit sources, just look at TSN or NHL.com to break things down.

Personally I have come to the conclusion != MacKenzie, Lebrun, Dreger or the players agency just ignore it.

If we are getting "only" Suter I'd be one happy camper but please no Semin, there have to be better Plan B options outthere.

No UFA is worth the money he will get, UFA fency = overpaying and personally I am absolutely fine with that, the cap will keep going up and we have money to spend so no worries here.

Edited by frankgrimes, 02 July 2012 - 09:40 PM.

[pondrocket]

Not so concerned about Parise, very concerned about Sutter. He has lots of options. However, the type of contract he is seeking (long & high value) Detroit is the only team (in the league) that has consistantly demonstrated the desire and ability to ice an above average team for more then 20 years. If I want to live close to my mid western home and have the best opportunity to win throughout the length of the loooooong contract how can a person not choose Detroit. On top of it playing for an original 6 team, in a hocky respectful marked with a national fan base that manages their team so that the burden of winning is spread through the whole team. They all risk success & failure together. Nobody is waiting around for the top producing players to win it. Everyone cares, everyone plays hard & they are over all decent people. How do you say no?

He can pick another destination. Who knows what his situational value is?

[joesuffP]

Well I don't think wings are such a shoe in like everyone thought or the deal would be done or holland would at least be meeting with him. Why would he wait for Parise to sign first? Detroit seems like the obvious choice but if he knew he was signing with Detroit he would have signed by now. If he would like to play with Parise but it's not a priority for him he would have signed with the wings and made Parise more likely to come over as well. It seems he wants to go wherever Parise goes and that's a ***** move

[LeftWinger]

Suter, Nash & Semin....please...

[KrazyGangsta]

Everyone's waiting for Parise to sign ... getting him would mean not trading anyone to get a great caliber winger ... When his signed look for Nash's trade to come soon.

[dirtydangles]

Everyone's waiting for Parise to sign ... getting him would mean not trading anyone to get a great caliber winger ... When his signed look for Nash's trade to come soon.

Not necessarily. If we have a top 6 guy coming in for free then we can afford to trade Fil and Franzen for Ryan + and get younger at the same time. That replaces Fil, Franzen with Parise, Ryan.

[Trapt1307]

Suter, Nash & Semin....please...

That's what I'm hoping for as well.

I would love to see what Columbus would want from the Wings though. I can't see a trade that doesn't involve both Fil and Franzen, and probably Smith.

A core of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Nash, Semin, Kronwall and Suter would be amazing.

Edited by Trapt1307, 02 July 2012 - 10:48 PM.

[RedStormRising]

So has everyone written off Parise now?

[stevkrause]

So has everyone written off Parise now?

from a great source, Parise to sign with Washington following this trade to be announced tomorrow -
To Wsh:
Kovalchuk

To NJ:
Ovechkin

**S5**