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Parise Watch [update x2]: Red Wings OUT of Running

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#141 Seraph

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:12 PM

Not Pens, not Pens, not Pens!

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:16 PM

Bottom line. It's his decision, whatever his reasons are. I get uptight about a lot of things but not this kind of thing. He has to be seriously considering where he's going to be the happiest and most fulfilled, with a chance at the Cup. If it were just the money, he would have made his decision when all the offers were first thrown in his face. Granted, it's a quality problem, but he has every right to take his time sorting it out.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:17 PM

This is pathetic, if I'm a free agent I would all ready have an idea where I would want to go play.


He probably does. That's why there aren't still 20 teams in the running. But have you considered that there are many places he might like to play for a variety of reasons, each with pros and cons? And that despite playing it through your head, you have no real idea what you're dealing with exactly until teams can actually call and send over their offers, and they couldn't do that before 30 hours ago, and they likely couldn't reasonably start sorting through it until about 24 hours ago.

So the guy and his agent have had about 30 hours to deal with concrete choices and actually have discussions with teams about those choices and your upset because he wants another 12-24 hours?

You're sitting on a message board. He's debating a decision that will have an enormous affect on the next 12 years of his life. Take a step back and think about that for a minute.

And for the record, his agent was quoted as saying a decision could still come tonight if made early enough about an hour ago, so again, try to have a little patience and empathy for the guy.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:17 PM

Doan's not doing anything until next week and Semin would be dumb to sign before Parise as his stock will go up as soon as Parise's off the market and the losers look to FA Plan B. The lower tier guys aren't affected by this. There's little to see here. Despite what the foolish rumor mongers desperately try to suggest, there just aren't that many dominoes waiting to fall this off-season.


Doan was snubbed by Holland & Yzerman in the past. He will have plenty of offers from strong teams that have not to choose from. I think it looks like a trade will be necessary. In our case a multi team trade. The sooner we start the more competative we can become. Just my opinion.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:19 PM

Bottom line. It's his decision, whatever his reasons are. I get uptight about a lot of things but not this kind of thing. He has to be seriously considering where he's going to be the happiest and most fulfilled, with a chance at the Cup. If it were just the money, he would have made his decision when all the offers were first thrown in his face. Granted, it's a quality problem, but he has every right to take his time sorting it out.


Exactly. We should be encouraged that it's obviously not just about the money if his decision has taken this long.

Doan was snubbed by Holland & Yzerman in the past. He will have plenty of offers from strong teams that have not to choose from. I think it looks like a trade will be necessary. In our case a multi team trade. The sooner we start the more competative we can become. Just my opinion.


I think we'll be trading too, I was just saying that I don't think the other big name FA's are sweating the situation as hard as fans think they are.
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#146 CaptainCaveMan

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:22 PM

He probably does. That's why there aren't still 20 teams in the running. But have you considered that there are many places he might like to play for a variety of reasons, each with pros and cons? And that despite playing it through your head, you have no real idea what you're dealing with exactly until teams can actually call and send over their offers, and they couldn't do that before 30 hours ago, and they likely couldn't reasonably start sorting through it until about 24 hours ago.

So the guy and his agent have had about 30 hours to deal with concrete choices and actually have discussions with teams about those choices and your upset because he wants another 12-24 hours?

You're sitting on a message board. He's debating a decision that will have an enormous affect on the next 12 years of his life. Take a step back and think about that for a minute.

And for the record, his agent was quoted as saying a decision could still come tonight if made early enough about an hour ago, so again, try to have a little patience and empathy for the guy.


He could still (publicly) narrow down the list of teams. A lot of teams are handcuffed right now because they don't know what is going on.

Edited by CaptainCaveMan, 02 July 2012 - 05:24 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:24 PM

He could still narrow down the list of teams. A lot of teams are handcuffed right now because they don't know what is going on.


He has. It was confirmed earlier that some teams have been told that they're out. If a team has an offer in and hasn't been told that they're out, they're likely still in.
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#148 CaptainCaveMan

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

He has. It was confirmed earlier that some teams have been told that they're out. If a team has an offer in and hasn't been told that they're out, they're likely still in.


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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:26 PM

He has. It was confirmed earlier that some teams have been told that they're out. If a team has an offer in and hasn't been told that they're out, they're likely still in.

Yes, continue to hold the remaining teams hostage while the others who have already been excused can buy up the remaining assets. Thanks Zach!

This is nothing more than posturing to draw more f***in money out of more pockets.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:45 PM

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

At this point I'd just want to address our Defensive issues right now and hopefully we can land Suter to solve that. It's something like this is why I hate the signings of Tootoo and Samuelsson on Day 1 of Free Agency if it's a money issue we could have had a better chance at getting both of them. Now I'm not so sure with only around $17 Million based on what Cap Geek says we will land even one. If it's just about money than we will lose both of them IMHO but if it's about making a better career choice as to haveing a successfull career and winning a Stanley Cup the Wings should still be one of the top teams in contention for these big-name players. As much as I want Parise we need Suter the most but if they both wanna go to the same team than we may lose both of them and that's a scary thing to think about especially still needing a Big D-Man to replace Liddy and another one to replace Stuart. I personally would rather see Parise either come here go to Minnesota or stay in New Jersey. Philly or Pittsburgh would be just too much for me to handle, though I may have to if it comes down to it. I hope something is decided soon becasue I didn't sleep worth a crap last night and when I did sleep all I could dream about was getting or losing one or both of these players to many more night's like this and I'll be part of the Walking Dead. Let's just get this done and move on.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:32 PM

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#153 kylee

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:50 PM

Can anyone confirm or deny that his teams are down to Pittsburgh and Minnesota? or was that speculation

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:51 PM

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:52 PM

if he goes to pens hopefully he collides with sid, and they both get concussed.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

At this point I'd just want to address our Defensive issues right now and hopefully we can land Suter to solve that. It's something like this is why I hate the signings of Tootoo and Samuelsson on Day 1 of Free Agency if it's a money issue we could have had a better chance at getting both of them. Now I'm not so sure with only around $17 Million based on what Cap Geek says we will land even one. If it's just about money than we will lose both of them IMHO but if it's about making a better career choice as to haveing a successfull career and winning a Stanley Cup the Wings should still be one of the top teams in contention for these big-name players. As much as I want Parise we need Suter the most but if they both wanna go to the same team than we may lose both of them and that's a scary thing to think about especially still needing a Big D-Man to replace Liddy and another one to replace Stuart. I personally would rather see Parise either come here go to Minnesota or stay in New Jersey. Philly or Pittsburgh would be just too much for me to handle, though I may have to if it comes down to it. I hope something is decided soon becasue I didn't sleep worth a crap last night and when I did sleep all I could dream about was getting or losing one or both of these players to many more night's like this and I'll be part of the Walking Dead. Let's just get this done and move on.

EXACTLY why I don't like the Sammy, Tootoo signings. These guys are secondary and won't win you cups as main cast. It would be a **** move but if push comes to shove I'd think this would be a case where Tootoo could be traded away to make cap space. Sammy's NTC will screw us just like bert for the next 2 years. Last thing we needed was Sammy and Bert on the third line. Cleary gone next season likely might as well trade him now.

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#157 Seraph

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

Parise was always the icing on the cake, people. Don't get your hopes up. I'm pretty sure if Holland is in his office checking twitter for updates, we're not being as heavily considered. I'm sure the teams he's considering are in active communication with him and his agent.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

I think they officially confirmed that Dalas and Carolina are out of sweepstakes. No word on others.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:03 PM

Everything you hear right now is speculation. Hes going home to decide. It's just guys like Eklund (losers) spinning b.s. to keep us entranced. Parise could easily still choose the Wings IMO. It's all just a s*** show!

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

I'm pretty sure if Holland is in his office checking twitter for updates, we're not being as heavily considered.


He might've been joking about that.

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