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[stevkrause]

No more "strong push"ing, IMO. No more kicking tires, helluva offers, trying really hard, pricing out, safety zoning.

Nike. Just do it.

Don't be a fool, it takes two parties to trade and you can't force your way into a trade, if the other team isn't willing to talk, it's not an option... neither is raining cash on a FA, until they "see things your way" this is not the pre-cap world... you don't cripple your team in the long term for a MINOR short term upgrade... stop being so short sighted...

[Hatethedrake!]

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Shane Doan ($5.500m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Keith Yandle ($5.250m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,033,712; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,166,288

[RedWingsDad]

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Shane Doan ($5.500m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Keith Yandle ($5.250m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,033,712; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,166,288

What was it exactly we gave up to get both Bobby Ryan AND Yandle? Fillpulla and Nyquist? bah ha ha

[hillbillywingsfan]

No more "strong push"ing, IMO. No more kicking tires, helluva offers, trying really hard, pricing out, safety zoning.

Nike. Just do it.

So let me get this now....Reading your posts all through out this whole off season what I get from them is you think that we missed out on Parise,Suter and now Nash was all Holland and comp's fault for not offering more in money and or trade and nothing to do with 2 players wanting to play with each other and both wanting to play closer to home in Minn and another players GM saying pretty much there is no way in hell that CBJ will trade/deal with the wings? Is that correct? I just want to make sure I understand.

Edited by hillbillywingsfan, 23 July 2012 - 03:47 PM.

[St. Michael (the Red Wing)]

f*** i would love it if we got Ryan. Wonder if Ryan might get dealt here soon too? Hmmmmmm

[frankgrimes]

If Ryan gets traded you can be sure, it will be out of the conference so probably Pittsburgh or Boston as future destinations for him.

[Hatethedrake!]

What was it exactly we gave up to get both Bobby Ryan AND Yandle? Fillpulla and Nyquist? bah ha ha

Yeah I know. LOL I will leave that up to Kenny.

[brett]

ill take this guy over nash any day of the week. for some reason now that nash is gone i really want ryan. i like that hes from NJ too

[Carman]

Still want a defenseman much more than a winger.

[Dabura]

http://bleacherrepor...n-is-great-move

Simple feel-good daydream piece, no news or rumors or revelations. Just boner.

[Dabura]

Can't stress enough: if we want a solid shot at landing Getzlaf and/or Perry next summer, (and we do), Ryan's our ticket to contention.

[St. Michael (the Red Wing)]

http://bleacherrepor...n-is-great-move

Simple feel-good daydream piece, no news or rumors or revelations. Just boner.

Nice and a good read. Ryan hasn't even hit his prime yet. I think he's quite talented I really hope Kenny makes a push for him. At the end of the day after all the big names of Suter, Parise, Nash etc etc whether UFA or RFA or neither. I've thought with Ryan's ability he could benefit us long term. f*** would love to see Ryan in the Winged Wheel.

p.s we aren't getting Ryan

[Hatethedrake!]

The only thing is that Ryan's price will be much higher than Nash was. Murray can deal him to any team because Ryan does not have a no trade clause. Still, I'd give up Flip, Nyquist and a 1st to get a deal done. I'd be willing to give up Mule but I doubt Murray would want him.

Edited by Hatethedrake!, 24 July 2012 - 11:20 AM.

[dirtydangles]

I'd REALLY love Ryan. But knowing Holland, if he makes a trade it will be a sensible one in which a top 4 dman comes back instead of a top 3 fwd. The price will be "too high" for Ryan as it has been for holland on most occasions and that will be that. I think a deal could be swung that provides Anaheim with good future depth. We need to shed a bottom six player pretty badly at this point so one will go back to provide depth. Cleary holds little value on a one year deal (so does Fil but he isn't as old and is the 2C they need). It would be nice to get Semin AND Ryan and then still have assets to trade for a dman if there is one available for the right price.

One of:

Filppula, Miller, 1st

or

Franzen, Eaves, Tatar, 2nd

[St. Michael (the Red Wing)]

*edit* quoted myself lol.

Price I think would be about the same for Ryan as it was for Nash. 2 nhler's, a top prospect and a 1st. That might even be too high actually...

Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 24 July 2012 - 11:26 AM.

[dirtydangles]

The only thing is that Ryan's price will be much higher than Nash was. Murray can deal him to any team because Ryan does not have a no trade clause. Still, I'd give up Flip, Nyquist and a 1st to get a deal done. I'd be willing to give up Mule but I doubt Murray would want him.

Fil, Nyquist, 1st is way to much. Fil alone is almost worth Ryan other than his contract length currently. IMO Fil, Bottom 6er, 1st should do it. Especially considering our 1st is worth more in a year where we are looking to be declining.

[Rivalred]

I'd REALLY love Ryan. But knowing Holland, if he makes a trade it will be a sensible one in which a top 4 dman comes back instead of a top 3 fwd. The price will be "too high" for Ryan as it has been for holland on most occasions and that will be that. I think a deal could be swung that provides Anaheim with good future depth. We need to shed a bottom six player pretty badly at this point so one will go back to provide depth. Cleary holds little value on a one year deal (so does Fil but he isn't as old and is the 2C they need). It would be nice to get Semin AND Ryan and then still have assets to trade for a dman if there is one available for the right price.

One of:

Filppula, Miller, 1st

or

Franzen, Eaves, Tatar, 2nd

Doubt any team would take Eaves in his current state

[Hatethedrake!]

Fil, Abs, 1st for Ryan. Would Murray do it?

[dirtydangles]

Doubt any team would take Eaves in his current state

true, maybe substitute Mursak and change the pick to a 1st.

[pondrocket]

Still want a defenseman much more than a winger.

Since we are going to be forced to get a couple second or third tier D man, it could salvage the off season if we were to pick ot a top six sniper. That way our focus could be on Top D at trade deadline or next year?