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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:08 PM
If Ryan Suter eludes us, what are the chances of us out-bidding Nashville for Weber this season. Would the cap space available by Suter's departure allow NSH to submit an insane qualifying offer?
What would stop Holland from tossing a 12-year $100m offer sheet at Shea just to put NSH in a tough spot?
2nd Line Scorer
Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:17 PM
What would stop hom? The wings didn't offer their number one choice that much money, why would they throw more money at their number two?
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:28 PM
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:30 PM
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:32 PM
What would stop hom? The wings didn't offer their number one choice that much money, why would they throw more money at their number two?
1st Line All-Star
Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:42 PM
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:34 PM
Caustic
Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:00 PM
Because weber is better than suter.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:42 PM
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:47 PM
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:12 AM
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:30 AM
Just basically means that he can still accept offer sheets from other teams which means jack & squat since I would be surprised if he gets any. After losing Suter, Nashville will be desperate enough to match any offer that comes in.Weber has declined arbitration with Nashville.
http://www.prosports...ors-685266.html
Does this mean anything though?
Thanks for the memories
Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:58 AM
Just basically means that he can still accept offer sheets from other teams which means jack & squat since I would be surprised if he gets any. After losing Suter, Nashville will be desperate enough to match any offer that comes in.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:28 AM
Nashville already sent a qualifying offer to Weber & at his salary, it has to be at minimum what he made last season. By not filing for arbitation, that leaves the options at:What does it mean if he can't come to terms with the Preds though? Since he didn't elect arbitration and they can't take him to arbitration, if he doesn't want to sign an offer sheet and doesn't like the Preds offer does he just sit out until an agreement is reached?
Edited by ogreslayer, 06 July 2012 - 09:32 AM.
Thanks for the memories
Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:37 AM
Nashville already sent a qualifying offer to Weber & at his salary, it has to be at minimum what he made last season. By not filing for arbitation, that leaves the options at:
My guess is that no teams extend an offer sheet, he accepts Nashville's qualifying offer for 1 more year, & then becomes a UFA after the season.
- Accepting the qualifying offer from Nashville, which locks him in at 1 or 2 years depending on what Weber wants & then he becomes a UFA at the end of that contract.
- Accepting an offer sheet from another team. If Nashville matches, they're locked in at the same exact contract in the offer sheet & they can't trade Weber for a year. If Nashville doesn't match, Weber moves on & the Preds get draft picks as compensation.
- No offer sheet is extended/accepted & Weber rejects Nashville's qualifying offer. He remains an RFA & if he's not under contract by 12/1, he sits out the entire season.
1st Line All-Star
Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:54 AM
I posted this exact samt thingIf somehow the Wings would be OK with giving up 4 first round draft picks then I say sign Weber to a 1 year league max (~$14M) contract. That way if NSH matches it then they can't trade him for an entire year and it screws their cap situation up. Or if NSH declines then the Wings can sign him long term during the season and won't be hampered by another 12 year deal (as the new CBA will eliminate those)
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:06 AM
That move might screw the Pred's internal cap situation up for a year but not versus the true $70.2m NHL cap level. They're close to $30m under the NHL cap currently. Would they take that hit for 1 year? Quite possibly.If somehow the Wings would be OK with giving up 4 first round draft picks then I say sign Weber to a 1 year league max (~$14M) contract. That way if NSH matches it then they can't trade him for an entire year and it screws their cap situation up. Or if NSH declines then the Wings can sign him long term during the season and won't be hampered by another 12 year deal (as the new CBA will eliminate those)
Kate: Jr. Wing Nut
Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:28 AM
franzen,quincey,tatar and a 1st for weber if we get him to sign longterm contract extention
think that could be enough for weber?
Awww poor butch
Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:40 AM
TruthNo, that will not be enough. Not even close.
Riley "Tinky Winky" Sheahan
Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:22 AM
But Weber's in disbelief that Suter abandoned the sinking ship...Nashville either trades him or he forces a one year contract and they lose him next year for nothing. He wont stay in Nashville now that suter left.
lol.
Wings need some Ryan Pulock in the 1st round, a goal scorer in the 2nd round and rounds 3-7 all guys 6'4 or bigger. Please sign Dekeyser to play with Smith. <--Dekeyser signed, Paired next year. Mark your calendars.
Tootoo needs a partner in crime that plays like him on the other side of Helm. Oh hey, we have Mitchell Callahan. Problem solved.
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