Guest The Axe Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Fire Ken Holland. He is worthless. He's wasting time signing guys that dont help us (sammuelson, bertuzzi, tootoo, gustavson) and not signing anyone that does help us. This is the definition of a bad gm. All thats left for him to do now is give Holmstrom another 2 years. This offseason had to be big for Detroit. Shultz, Parise, and Suterwould have vaulted Detroit to the top again. Instead - total strikeout AND overpay/extend for complete CRAP. Holland - you suck. 1 centcougar07 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 I'd say the next move would be to sign Semin and trade for a top pairing Dman. Holland couldn't completely kill the team for next year. If we spent like the Wild we couldn't afford to re-up smith and nyquist and fil and howard next season. The wild will have a hard time when their "top" prospects start needing a pay check and they have little room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho613 74 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Fire Ken Holland. He is worthless. He's wasting time signing guys that dont help us (sammuelson, bertuzzi, tootoo, gustavson) and not signing anyone that does help us. This is the definition of a bad gm. All thats left for him to do now is give Holmstrom another 2 years. This offseason had to be big for Detroit. Shultz, Parise, and Suterwould have vaulted Detroit to the top again. Instead - total strikeout AND overpay/extend for complete CRAP. Holland - you suck. Wouldn't want you to freak out or anything. Geeze relax, see what happens 2 IILeiBlazeII and stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 You can go join the Wild board.. 2 centcougar07 and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 I think we need to find at least one decent defensive stay at home defenseman. I'm not worried about puck moving defensman we are pretty equiped with those. Kronwall - Quincey - Smith - Kindl. I'm looking some more like Stuart (We sure are going to miss his presence). 1 MrWings787 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Legged RedWing 367 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Fire Ken Holland. He is worthless. He's wasting time signing guys that dont help us (sammuelson, bertuzzi, tootoo, gustavson) and not signing anyone that does help us. This is the definition of a bad gm. All thats left for him to do now is give Holmstrom another 2 years. This offseason had to be big for Detroit. Shultz, Parise, and Suterwould have vaulted Detroit to the top again. Instead - total strikeout AND overpay/extend for complete CRAP. Holland - you suck. It's not like he didn't even offer these guys contracts or try to acquire them. This isn't the summer of 2001. We can't just buy whoever we want any more. There is much more than money involved. You need to relax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stinkyness 10 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 After alot of gnashing of Teeth and wailing and bemoaning the fact. I've concluded that the Tootoo signing was brilliant. I hated the Mf'er on Nashville. We haven't had someone so nasty and abrasive in a long time. But the rest of the signings have sucked elephant nuts. We miss the playoffs, then Nill needs a promotion. 1 IllinoisRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 These moves made before the Suter/Parise fiasco was just shoring up goaltending and replacing people. I really like the small moves Holland made. Would you people honestly rather have Hudler for 4M for 4 more years or Sammy for 3M and 2 years... Sammy is the better player and makes us bigger and stronger. I liked Hudler and never understood all the hate but I'm glad to have upgraded for cheaper. Those contracts given to Suter and Parise were retarded and very short sighted. Holland is going to be making major moves and our D will at least look decent by the first game of the season. 2 IllinoisRedWingsFan and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllinoisRedWingsFan 49 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Let's all wait and see what Kenny does before we call for his head. I think he has something up his sleeve. At least he didn't resign Hudler. 1 Stinkyness reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Happy 4th of July!!!!!!!! 2 esteef and Tim.D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 i really want to see what holland plans to do now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted July 4, 2012 If Sammy makes us bigger and stronger, im afraid. He is the biggest floater in the league. Absolute ZERO playoff value. Does anyone honestly believe the team, as it stands now, can get past the first round? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 982 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Sorry i dont see the gloom and doom we let the youngsters grow and who knows maybe as a collective group they put a chip on their shoulder and show suter and his bff they made a bad decision. Just as a thought what if we had spent all the money and in the first game either one were to be hurt then where would we be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted July 4, 2012 We lose lidstrom. Remember? Its exactly like we just lost our best player first game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Pissed we lost out but that's life. I love the small moves he made. Just have to add some scoring Semin would be a nice addition. I like our D a lot. I think we're young talented just need to grow a bit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty Dangle 83 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Enjoying some ginger ales on the Fourth of July I see. 3 stevkrause, matt198913 and Winterberg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Kill everyone, burn down the city, arghhhhhhhhh 3 ElCapitan, Frozen-Man and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) Maybe Kronwall becomes that stud defenceman that he was projected to be, this could be his year to shine. I can't fault Holland, I think my stomach would turn if we gave both Parise and Suter those kinds of contracts. He did the best that he could. Maybe we offered $90 mill to each of them and they took the $98 mill offer ... what can you say? Edited July 4, 2012 by RedWingsRox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOzzieGo 22 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Absolute ZERO playoff value. You might want to look into that a bit more. Actually, he has pretty decent playoff numbers for the role he plays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 It's a good thing you're not in charge of things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 http://espn.go.com/nhl/freeagents/_/type/available Here is a list of the unsigned 2012 NHL Free Agents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper84 333 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 I fully expected fans to be calling for Kenny's head if he didn't sign these guys. Surprisingly, it's much (much) less than I expected to see. I don't know what else people really expected Holland and company to do? The contract offers were competitive, he flew out to meet and talk and up'ed his offer when he had to. In the end, it was family that made the difference. Not Holland not offering enough, not "Detroit's diamond losing it's shine", it was family. What was Holland supposed to do about their desire to play in their home town and be around their family? Based on Suter's comments, it's quite apparent that the decision was pretty much made days ago, when both Suter and Parise have been phoning/texting back and forth with Heately and asking if they can win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Wouldnt surprise me if Holland signs Holmstrom and Arnott. Not at all. Follow that up with bringing Chelios back, and our team is set. Good job, Kenny. You Suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOzzieGo 22 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Wouldnt surprise me if Holland signs Holmstrom and Arnott. Not at all. Follow that up with bringing Chelios back, and our team is set. Good job, Kenny. You Suck. And how many Stanley Cup winning teams have you GM'd again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lebda is available! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites