ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Exactly. And adding to my last scenario, it would be nice to get another top 6 guy (like Doan or Mueller) and bump Bert to the 4th line and have him wreck s*** with tootoo. I like Doan, I really do......just can not afford another 35+ guy. Unfortunately, Sammy stole his spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Doan would be a good pick up even at 35+ but I highly doubt he would come to Detroit, I would think with our current situation he would prefer going to Pittsburgh. Let's be honnest as we stand Pittsburgh gives him a better opportunity to win a stanley cup then we do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Haha, I love Red Wings fans. It's like a busy office meeting in here with people pitching ideas left and right. Strong work guys. Predicting trades is harder than signings because we are less clued into what we have that others want and who is available for possible movement. Hopefully Kenny can get on the phone and work some magic. This has been interesting to say the least. Here's to hoping we haven't reached Babcock's plan D yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Why can't Ericsson, Quincey and Kronwall step up? How old was Zetterberg and Datsyuk when they finally stepped up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Ericsson has been stepping up, I think Kronwall is maxed out and Quincey will be better this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Why can't Ericsson, Quincey and Kronwall step up? How old was Zetterberg and Datsyuk when they finally stepped up? Because Ericsson was coddled and had has hand held and he couldn't stand on his own feet when Detroit had one of the best defenses in the NHL so there is no reason to expect that now that he has to live up to his contract he will turn it on and become a stud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Detroit needs a #1 dman 1 brett reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archimet 10 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Fire Ken Holland. He is worthless. He's wasting time signing guys that dont help us (sammuelson, bertuzzi, tootoo, gustavson) and not signing anyone that does help us. This is the definition of a bad gm. All thats left for him to do now is give Holmstrom another 2 years. This offseason had to be big for Detroit. Schultz, Parise, and Suterwould have vaulted Detroit to the top again. Instead - total strikeout AND overpay/extend for complete CRAP. Holland - you suck. I was looking forward to a rational discussion of 'what to do next'... Unfortunately I won't get the chance in this thread... You are an IDIOT. Shultz, Parise and Suter were all FREE agents... meaning they held ALL the cards. THEY could DECIDE where THEY wanted to play. They ALL CHOSE to play where they chose to play for PERSONAL REASONS... that no GM could impact. Schultz wanted to play in Canada (nothing Kenny could do about that) and with the last last three #1 overall picks in the draft (do you really want Kenny to go there?) Parise's family (especially his father and his fiance') wanted him to play near home... Likewise, Sutter's family wanted him to play close to home (family in Minnesota and farm in Madison... a couple hundred miles from Minneapolis)... There was zero that Ken Holland could have done to overcome the family connections... Zero... Because family is more important to Parise and Sutter than playing for any team... even the Red Wings. Get some perspective and stop the hating. Enjoy the Wings... even when things get a bit more challenging. Edited July 5, 2012 by archimet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archimet 10 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 We lose lidstrom. Remember? Its exactly like we just lost our best player first game. Do you have anything positive to say about anything? Please, just one thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 After hearing the comments about young guys stepping up and rookies getting a chance to play its sounds as though Holland isn't going to make a real big move or signing. Holland is really getting on my last nerve. Never pulls the trigger or takes any risks. Kenny you better do something or this team is gonna have a real tough competing and in serious trouble to make the playoffs. Worst part is that pav and Z aren't getting any younger. Holland please sign semin, and deal for enstrom! Please!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 He needs to deal for Ryan, then sign Semin, Doan, Mueller.and then try for.Yandle..... 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 He needs to sign semin, and mueller or doan. Trade the mule, Tatar or pulk plus a 1st for enstrom from Winnipeg. Go with: Nyquist- pav- semin Fil- zetterberg- mueller/doan Brunner- helm- Sammy Clearly/Bert- Abby-totoo Enstrom- big e Kronwall- smith Quincey- white Kindl I believe that team may not win the cup but it will compete and have at least an outside chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) franzen tatar pulkkinen and a 1st for tobias enstrom?? haaaaa NO THANKS if were gonna give up those guys its gotta be for a real star player not 5'10 enstrom Edited July 5, 2012 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 franzen tatar pulkkinen and a 1st for tobias enstrom?? haaaaa NO THANKS if were gonna give up those guys its gotta be for a real star player not 5'10 enstrom Not both Tatar and pulk just one of the two. Me personally I would do this in a heartbeat. Enstrom is the perfect wing! We lose the franzen contract as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustyrhoades9687 2 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 What should hollands next push be nash, yandle, ryan, doan, semin, any thoughts and or suggestions. Or should we save for next years free agent market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 What should hollands next push be nash, yandle, ryan, doan, semin, any thoughts and or suggestions. Or should we save for next years free agent market. Like I said in another thread tr best plan B would be to sign semin, and doan/ mueller. ( Doans better player, but older. Mueller not as good but cheaper and only 24 and he has star potential) then trade mule, Tatar/pulk and a 1st/2nd to Winnipeg for enstrom. Enstrom is very underrated, I would be ecstatic with this plan and I really do feel like it can be done. What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Like I also said in another thread Datsyuk is screamin' for Semin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Plan A - your initial thoughts could have gone into any number of existing threads. 1 Travis reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blgillett 48 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 What should hollands next push be nash, handle, ryan, doan, semin, any thoughts and or suggestions. Or should we save for next years free agent market. We need to add at least one D-man if not two the question is who that should be Then we could add a guy like Semin I feel Babs can handle any problems that might come with him but he would add much needed scoring the real question who are the D-man that would help us out enough to sign for a couple of years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustyrhoades9687 2 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Love the idea just add yandle and we have a great chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YougotDatsyuked 24 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Sit tight and see what available at the deadline. :/ Edited July 5, 2012 by YougotDatsyuked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustyrhoades9687 2 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I have a strong feeling about yandle and doan in Detroit I haven't had this strong a feeling about getting to the cup since we got hasek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekmanc 586 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I would really like to see Doan, the man is a warrior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dustyrhoades9687 2 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 If wecan get them it'd be great and semin and enstrom would be the over the top the wings need Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I heard that Howson actually asked for Jeff Skinner from Carolina, so I don't know what we would have to offer, except much more than we could afford to give up, Best option right now is to sign Semin, who I hear NJ is also going after. Yandle, depending on what Phoenix asks for in return, could alleviate some of the pain of missing out on Suter. Then there is Weber... If Suter is worth 98 million, I can't imagine what Weber will demand next season?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
