matt198913 932 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lol ^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lebda is awesome..... Let's bring him back along with Jason Williams and Kyle Calder. 1 Dominator2005 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larionov_8 12 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 If Sammy makes us bigger and stronger, im afraid. He is the biggest floater in the league. Absolute ZERO playoff value. Does anyone honestly believe the team, as it stands now, can get past the first round? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xO_57ZN4Oo Gee, I thought Samuelsson did a good job driving the net on this first goal, and out muscled Hal Gill on that second one. ZERO playoff value though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lilja and Leba for DEF depth Williams, Calder and Deveraux for F depth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lilja and Leba for DEF depth Williams, Calder and Deveraux for F depth That's ridiculous. This team isn't going anywhere until Matt Ellis is brought back. 3 Dominator2005, MabusIncarnate and Seraph reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Matt Ellis, what a warrior... Now we have a DREAM TEAM! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,343 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 We should have never left Commodore walk now look at the pickle we are in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 We should have never left Commodore walk now look at the pickle we are in. He's still available..I'd rather Jim Vandermeer, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,198 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lilja's coming back. You wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lilja's coming back. You wait and see. I'd seriously start to question whether Ken is capable of icing s competitive team if that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Lebda is available! dont f'n jinx us ! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manoir 70 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Don't blame Holland one bit for losing out, that's out of his hands. However, now we'll see just how good a GM he really is. With Lidstrom gone and Zetterberg/Datsyuk being 30+, the next 5 years will determine if Holland truly is one of the best GM's or just some guy who happened to be in the right place at the right time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) He's still available..I'd rather Jim Vandermeer, though. id rather we throw logan pyett on the ice and watch him get a -50 lmao i guess we can throw in brian lashoff if were desperate at the #6 spot hes gonna turn 22 and sure he"ll make mistakes but hes 6'3 212 pds and did 1 and a half yrs in grand rapids again ... if were desperate Edited July 4, 2012 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Manoir, is there any doubt in your mind? Bowman won us the cups. Not Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Manoir, is there any doubt in your mind? Bowman won us the cups. Not Holland. Bowman was great in 07-08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmyJoMoFo 1 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 "We've got all summer now," Holland said. "The market has been combed over pretty good. We'll explore trades. We're happy that we got the guys that we did on July 1 (F Mikael Samuelsson, F Jordin Tootoo, F Damien Brunner, G Jonas Gustavsson)." Holland added: "Part of this might be that we might have to go with some kids that we think are ready." From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120704/SPORTS0103/207040374#ixzz1zhRnGOSk Right now I have the feeling that with Holland taking his "step back", he may miss out out on trying to sign Carle, or Carle will want more money than Holland is willing to spend for him after being turned away by Suter. I don't think he'll trade for Yandle, or Nash for that matter, as both teams are well aware of what we currently have on roster, what we need and how badly we need it, and their prices will be way too high for Holland to pull the trigger on it. And the last line concerns me where he appears to be.. I'll say "comfortable" going forward with what he have and with those in the minors.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 LET'S ALL FREAK OUT AND CUT OUR WRISTS! or....the next move could just be to sign Semin for a year or 2, sign Matt Carle, pitch offers for Nash and Ryan and see what comes of it. As long as the trade package doesn't include Flip, Gus or Smith it's all good. there's always an option. I wanted Parise and Suter as bad as anyone, but it's not the end of the world and the Wild are screwed as soon as Granlund wants his payday. 3 years from now, all they'll have is Suter and Parise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Carle is an ok player, but he's going to get overpaid for many years which could handcuff the wings in the future. Holland doesn't have to make a move here, it's much more important to make the right move, then make the wrong move. It might be worth it to just wait it out and explore trades, and finally give a chance to the young kids we've got(Tatar/Nyquist/Smith). If the Wings don't make a big move this offseason then they have a chance to improve next offseason, if we make a big move and it backfires the Wings are screwed for many years. I still believe the Wings are a playoff team with their current roster. Don't forget a lot of the struggles last season can be attributed to two rookie coaches, that should be a big improve this year. Our forward situation is better this year, goaltending should be better as Howard is still improving and Gust has more potential than Conk/Mac, but our defense is going to be hurt Smith/Ericsson/Quincy will have to step up huge, and I think they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted July 4, 2012 Bowman also signed Robatille Hull and traded for Hasek, o and I suppose he also drafted Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Fischer, Kronwall, Hudler, Filpula. He probably also acquired everyone that made the 06, and 07 teams decent. Clearly Sammy ya know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Carle is not the answer. We need.to trade for a top 4 Off defenseman and hope we can add semin/Ryan and Doan. Doan's agent has contacted the Wings several times looking for an offer should he leave the Yotes. http://mobile.mlive.com/advannarbor/pm_105108/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=zH31wca5 Edited July 5, 2012 by Ozzie30 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Parise, in many ways, was a Hossa-like luxury, not a dire need. I realize this team has scoring problems and an upgrade would have been nice, but with Brunner, Nyquist and all the returning guys, it wasn't like there was a Lidstrom-sized hole to fill at forward. Losing Suter, however, does hurt. But he's gone. I think Brendan Smith is a player. A trade for Ryan would be great, but if Franzen/Filppula can be flipped into a Top 2 defenseman instead, I would love so sign Semin and get D help that way. Sent on iPhone using Tapatalk 2 haroldsnepsts and Stinkyness reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I'd say the next move would be to sign Semin and trade for a top pairing Dman. Holland couldn't completely kill the team for next year. If we spent like the Wild we couldn't afford to re-up smith and nyquist and fil and howard next season. The wild will have a hard time when their "top" prospects start needing a pay check and they have little room. Fire Ilitch too since he couldn't land Suter even though he met with him yesterday and couldn't close the deal. This is all Mike Ilitch's fault. Damn Mike Ilitch, he's worthless, he can't even get a guy to sign with the Red Wings... he should have tazed him and put a gun to his head and forced him to sign. Dammit Ilitch, why couldn't you hold his family hostage until everyone signed with the Detroit Red Wings. Damn it Mike Ilitch!!!11 How did I do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Carle is not the answer. We need.to trade for a top 4 Off defenseman and hope we can add semin/Ryan and Doan. Doan's agent has contacted the Wings several times looking for an offer should he leave the Yotes. http://mobile.mlive....ntguid=zH31wca5 Woah, Doan's agent called the Wings asking for an offer? Man, I don't care about age, if we can get Doan I will be estatic. Adding him and Tootoo, and having Kronwall on the backend could make us one of the more feared teams in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 The most ideal, maybe somewhat realistic, outcome going forward IMO would be to pursue Semin and Doan. Hopefully land one (both would be even better) to boost the top-six and fill out the forward group. That would give the Red Wings an excessive amount of forwards, but that also creates some flexibility to trade for a top-pairing d-man like Yandle. Filppula for starters would definitely be gone in this scenario, though that might be the only way at this point to really bolster the defense. Getting Nash from Columbus would eliminate our assets and then we are still looking at a very questionable defense. I'd rather have Semin (or Doan) and Yandle than Nash and Carle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) "We've got all summer now," Holland said. "The market has been combed over pretty good. We'll explore trades. We're happy that we got the guys that we did on July 1 (F Mikael Samuelsson, F Jordin Tootoo, F Damien Brunner, G Jonas Gustavsson)." Holland added: "Part of this might be that we might have to go with some kids that we think are ready." From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitne...4#ixzz1zhRnGOSk Right now I have the feeling that with Holland taking his "step back", he may miss out out on trying to sign Carle, or Carle will want more money than Holland is willing to spend for him after being turned away by Suter. I don't think he'll trade for Yandle, or Nash for that matter, as both teams are well aware of what we currently have on roster, what we need and how badly we need it, and their prices will be way too high for Holland to pull the trigger on it. And the last line concerns me where he appears to be.. I'll say "comfortable" going forward with what he have and with those in the minors.... Missing out on Carle wouldn't be too big a deal. A stop-gap like Hannan or Roszival might be better anyway if we can't swing a trade. Depends on how much Carle would take. $4M or less for 2-4 years? Probably not now that he's the "best" one left. And he's not good enough to make a big difference in how far we can go. Regarding the bold: I see Kenny taking a lot of flak the last few years for expressing confidence in our players. It's like people see comments like that and completely forget what he's tried to do or the circumstances we've been in, and also ignore anything he says about considering other options. Seriously, what do you expect him to say? You think he should act like a fan and say, "This f'in sucks! We suck now and we won't make the playoffs ever again!!!1! Franzen's an A-hole!!one! I'm trading everyone!!?/! I'll trade Joe Louis for that Rocky statue!!! Next guy that walks through that door is getting a blank check just so we can say we did something!!exclamation point!" The last few years, either because of the cap or lack of available players, our options have been very limited. Sucks that we haven't landed any of those few as of yet, but there's no reason for even fans to be as negative as they have been, much less for Kenny to be. Edited July 5, 2012 by Buppy 4 dat's sick, GoWings1905, Jasper84 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites