EvilleWing 2 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I know Holland (and many other GMs) don't like to go after RFAs because of having to give up compensation to the team the RFA leaves. What are the compensation rules? Just wondering with RFA Dmen like Weber, Subban, Green, Del Zotto, Carlson, etc. Some attractive names..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spongebob is a wings fan 18 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 An offer with a $1,034,249 annual cap hit or less: No compensation More than $1,034,249 -- $1,567,043: Third-round pick More than $1,567,043 -- $3,134,088: Second-round pick More than $3,134,088 -- $4,701,131: First and third-round pick More than $4,701,131 -- $6,268,175: First, second and third-round pick More than $6,268,175 -- $7,835,219: Two first-round picks, a second and third More than $7,835,219 and higher: Four first-round picks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I know Holland (and many other GMs) don't like to go after RFAs because of having to give up compensation to the team the RFA leaves. What are the compensation rules? Just wondering with RFA Dmen like Weber, Subban, Green, Del Zotto, Carlson, etc. Some attractive names..... It all depends on the cap hit of the contract signed. Here's this year's schedule: $1,110,249 or below: None Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194: Third-round choice Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391: Second-round choice Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585: First-round and third-round choice Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781: First-round, second-round and third-round choice Over $6,728,781 to $8,410,976: Two first-round choices, one second- and one third-round choice Over $8,410,976: Four first-round choices An offer with a $1,034,249 annual cap hit or less: No compensation More than $1,034,249 -- $1,567,043: Third-round pick More than $1,567,043 -- $3,134,088: Second-round pick More than $3,134,088 -- $4,701,131: First and third-round pick More than $4,701,131 -- $6,268,175: First, second and third-round pick More than $6,268,175 -- $7,835,219: Two first-round picks, a second and third More than $7,835,219 and higher: Four first-round picks Those #s are from the 2011-2012 season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper84 333 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Found this when I did a google search, it also has a list of RFA's: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2012-07-01/nhl-free-agency-list-rfa-compensation-rules Not worth offer sheeting anyone IMO. Any of the good names will get matched or cost a crazy amount of picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spongebob is a wings fan 18 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 LOL just realized that. thanks for the correction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulwoodsfan 52 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 Over $6,728,781 to $8,410,976: Two first-round choices, one second- and one third-round choiceOver $8,410,976: Four first-round choices So in theory, Weber could be had for two firsts, a second and a third, with a cap hit of $8.40M. If you felt there was any chance at all NSH would not match it, I think it would be worth it. However, I can't see a scenario in which the Preds don't match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 We could overpay MDZ or Carlson in the 1st,3rd compensation bracket (3.4-5mill) and see what happens. Go with a 4.9mill cap hit. I'd give up a 1st,3rd for one of those studs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I personally would offer Weber 8.4M. NSH would match it I'm 99% sure. It would show just how commited we are to winning though. But I wouldn't go any higher cause I wouldn't want to lose to 4 first round picks when he's a UFA next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 I personally would offer Weber 8.4M. NSH would match it I'm 99% sure. It would show just how commited we are to winning though. But I wouldn't go any higher cause I wouldn't want to lose to 4 first round picks when he's a UFA next year. You can't offer sheet Weber. Here's why: If you offer sheet weber long term big money the preds match and he is a pred for life and doesn't hit UFA status next offseason If you offer sheet weber for a one year deal you risk 4 first rounders for 1 year of Weber (he still has to re-sign) If you don't offer sheet weber, he probably hits UFA status next offseason because the preds won't be able to sign him unless we help by giving them an offer sheet to match. Boom, done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilleWing 2 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 We could overpay MDZ or Carlson in the 1st,3rd compensation bracket (3.4-5mill) and see what happens. Go with a 4.9mill cap hit. I'd give up a 1st,3rd for one of those studs. It seems to me that going fishing for MDZ or Carlson wouldn't be as much a risk as waiting on prospects in the system that have yet prove themselves. Do you know if MDZ, Carlson, Green or Subban have been given a qualifying offer yet? When can GMs start drawing up offer sheets? You can't offer sheet Weber. Here's why: If you offer sheet weber long term big money the preds match and he is a pred for life and doesn't hit UFA status next offseason If you offer sheet weber for a one year deal you risk 4 first rounders for 1 year of Weber (he still has to re-sign) If you don't offer sheet weber, he probably hits UFA status next offseason because the preds won't be able to sign him unless we help by giving them an offer sheet to match. Boom, done. Agree....I think It would be a gift for Nashville if Holland offered $8.4M for whatever term. If he hits the market as a UFA next year, I can't imagine the $s not being higher that $8.4m per yr........unless there are considerable changes to CBA this fall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 5, 2012 It seems to me that going fishing for MDZ or Carlson wouldn't be as much a risk as waiting on prospects in the system that have yet prove themselves. Do you know if MDZ, Carlson, Green or Subban have been given a qualifying offer yet? When can GMs start drawing up offer sheets? No idea, sorry. Wish I knew more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Someone clarify this for me - when can we sign Weber to an offer sheet and why wouldn't we? Can we offer him multiple years? If NAS can't sign him, why would they match? Finally, do we lose something in the way of draft picks if we prevail on the signing? I don't understand why the NHL has this gentleman's agreement against signing RFA's... Sent on iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Someone clarify this for me - when can we sign Weber to an offer sheet and why wouldn't we? Can we offer him multiple years? If NAS can't sign him, why would they match? Finally, do we lose something in the way of draft picks if we prevail on the signing? I don't understand why the NHL has this gentleman's agreement against signing RFA's... Sent on iPhone using Tapatalk Merged your post with the relevant thread. Scroll up. The only info I'm not sure of is when they can extend offer sheets. Not sure if that happens on July 1st as well, or some later date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites