Motown4013 350 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 If Q gets awarded a contract Kenny likes....sign him, sign Semin, Doan and Kubina....I can see Kenny doing that... Not my wish for this team, but Semin and Doan will help out for sure! That's 70-80 goals right there! Really? You think Kubina is worth 20 goals? Semin 30 goals, Doan 20 goals......hmmmm, your math is bad bro! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,518 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 How long has it been since we had a guy who could pick the corners? 2009...Hossa? He only had a measly 40 goals that season and drew enough defensive attention to allow Franzen a career year. However, I don't care if Semin came here and didn't put up 40. If he had 25, Franzen had 25, Datsyuk had 20 and about 50 assists, I'd be thrilled. How is that not better than Datsyuk at 20, Franzen at 28, and Bertuzzi at 14? Plus, this allows us to put Bertuzzi and Sammy, or Bertuzzi and Cleary on the third line, which is a mismatch against most teams in the league. Finally, as I've said all along. The criticisms of Semin are more appropriately criticisms of Bruce Boudreau, under who's tutelage each and every single member of the Washington Capitals could be termed a "lazy, unmotivated, inconsistent, under achiever". I like this signing...especially at this point. 3 SaCkaveli20, 55fan and ElCapitan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 On a one year deal I'd be happy with Semin, playing with Datsyuk and having Babs and Renney in his ear he could do some great things. Semin and Doan would be ideal, then move out some forwards in a deal for Yandle or whoever. Still alot of options for Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 How long has it been since we had a guy who could pick the corners? 2009...Hossa? He only had a measly 40 goals that season and drew enough defensive attention to allow Franzen a career year. However, I don't care if Semin came here and didn't put up 40. If he had 25, Franzen had 25, Datsyuk had 20 and about 50 assists, I'd be thrilled. How is that not better than Datsyuk at 20, Franzen at 28, and Bertuzzi at 14? Plus, this allows us to put Bertuzzi and Sammy, or Bertuzzi and Cleary on the third line, which is a mismatch against most teams in the league. Finally, as I've said all along. The criticisms of Semin are more appropriately criticisms of Bruce Boudreau, under who's tutelage each and every single member of the Washington Capitals could be termed a "lazy, unmotivated, inconsistent, under achiever". I like this signing...especially at this point. God i miss hossa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Lets get ONE thing straight: the wings need to get Semin at whatever cost is necessary. The situation is dire NOW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 What a tool to make such a terrible reputation for himself. Got to keep it classy and professional like Dats. Come here for a couple years for cheap, let us rebuild your reputation and show you how it's done. Then go make your payday somewhere else after your reputation is somewhat salvaged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 I hope for a one year deal at most. Semin should be kept on a tight leash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 I do not see him sigbing a one year deal, if we want Semin we are going to need to show more faith in him than any other team. 3-4 year term between 4-6 million... I know that's a big risk but lets face it the high reward part of this is sky high. The talent is there, the question is how often under a new coach. I think we should give him the chance. It's worth the risk in my mind especially at a 4-t million dollar cap hit... Worst case scenario is he stays around 50-60 points (which I doubt) but I bet he is 1st or 2nd on our team with goals those 3-4 years... Just my 2 cents 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 As much as a one year deal for signing Semin for us would be great. I don't see Semin signing a one year deal with us. I highly doubt if the Penguins are interested in Semin they are offering a one year deal. IDK but call it a hunch. Something tells me IF and only IF it's a one year deal it will be worth a little more than 6 million maybe more. Blah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pondrocket 35 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Two or three years would be ideal. Limiting his no movement options will be the key. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElCapitan 14 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) Do some of you think we are talking about Alexander Nadulov instead of Alexander Semin? Radulov sucks & all the pundits make Semin sound as bad as him. That's BS. Except for his first season (52GP/22Pts) Semin has been at least a 1/2 point/game guy, with most of his seasons being closer to 1pt/gm or higher. He's also been a plus in +/- for his last 5 seasons. Doesn't sound that lazy. I'm more concerned about his nit-picky injuries than laziness, especially with a potential pairing with Pavel. http://sports.yahoo....dKGRYwxbZ5ivLYF Edited July 7, 2012 by ElCapitan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YougotDatsyuked 24 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Khan on the huge show just said the wings would have to be very desperate to go after Semin. He doesn't feel they are very interested in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Khan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 I'm not a big fan of Semin, but can a player with his past production and potential be THAT bad on a team with a solid locker room like the Wings? He and Pavel had great chemistry at WC and we have the space to give him the pay, even if the term isn't long. Is he really so toxic that we aren't even taking a swing at him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EastonWings 2 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Semin,datsyuk line was amazing at the worlds. Watching semin play in this years playoffs he played fantastic like he was trying to prove something. it's scary to think how much it would help pavel on a line with him. Pavel would actually have a sniper something we've been lacking since 81 left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Khan on the huge show just said the wings would have to be very desperate to go after Semin. He doesn't feel they are very interested in him. How reliable is Mr. Khan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Khan on the huge show just said the wings would have to be very desperate to go after Semin. He doesn't feel they are very interested in him. Wings ARE desperate. If we are gonna be more than a 6th-10th place team we need to make significant additions. I hope Holland doesn't let Semin's bad rep overshadow what he'd bring to this team. Being surrounded by Babcock, Renney, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, maybe Doan, is different than being around Bodreau, Ovie and Green and I think Semin would behave accordingly. 1 Hey man nice shot! reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Semin,datsyuk line was amazing at the worlds. Watching semin play in this years playoffs he played fantastic like he was trying to prove something. it's scary to think how much it would help pavel on a line with him. Pavel would actually have a sniper something we've been lacking since 81 left. Semin and Datsyuk were great at WC. Datsyuk needs someone with some skill and a shot on his line, Bertuzzi isn't cutting it, and a lot of the time, neither is Franzen. Have Pasha make a phone call and start negotiations at 4 years, $22mil. Why we wouldn't at least try is a complete mystery to me. We need defense, but one has nothing to do with the other. Sign Semin. He isn't the best, but he will fit, and hell, with all the reclamation projects everyone loves around here, wouldn't we just as soon reclaim a player like Semin, with the production intact and the attitude needing work, as we would a guy like Cleary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Not sure how reliable the guy is, since he's a Pens beat writer, but he tweeted: "Alex Semin's agent, Mark Gandler: "No question, playing in Pittsburgh would be great. Alex would love to play with either Malkin or Crosby."" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 I'd give him 5 years $20M, but NO to a NMC/NTC... 4 years $20M, if Sammy has NTC why can't Semin have it??? Semin + Dats = force Then, Kenny should ADD top Def (Yandle) via trade, and bring some depth on D (Vandermeer). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Not sure how reliable the guy is, since he's a Pens beat writer, but he tweeted: "Alex Semin's agent, Mark Gandler: "No question, playing in Pittsburgh would be great. Alex would love to play with either Malkin or Crosby."" Typical politically correct comment that doesn't mean much. Although Pens are sure to be after Semin and he probably would like playing with Geno. Word is Pens are reluctant to offer anything long-term since they have Malkin to sign soon. Wings can spend, and they can easily offer 3-4 or even 5 years. Holland should NOT be outbid on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,949 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Hey if Detroit doesn't want Semin, then so be it...I say go full force for Bobby Ryan...Filppula, Mursak, Tatar a couple of extras should get the job done... A legit PROVEN 2nd line center (who will be as smooth as cake and butter with Selanne(assuming he'll play agian)) and two young prospects with tons of potential... Trade for Ryan, trade for Defenseman, sign Doan...hold on tight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Something tells me Kenny is not going to sign him.... That sucks unless we're getting Doan and Morrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Typical politically correct comment that doesn't mean much. Although Pens are sure to be after Semin and he probably would like playing with Geno. Word is Pens are reluctant to offer anything long-term since they have Malkin to sign soon. Wings can spend, and they can easily offer 3-4 or even 5 years. Holland should NOT be outbid on this one. Agree on Pitts situation. They also have Kunitz, Sutter, Letang, Orpik and Niskanen to lock up the same year as Geno. I think the max offer Pitts would make Semin is 2 years, but who knows for sure? 1 St. Michael (the Red Wing) reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 6, 2012 Something tells me Kenny is not going to sign him.... Agree we'd sign him the same day Parise/Suter went to Minny if Kenny and co. were interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites