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[Diluvian04]

I was just looking at some prospects on other teams for defensemen. Phoenix has two guys that have really good ratings. I have to admit I have never watched them play but if Holland is having difficulty landing a good Dman maybe we should try and trade for one these guys. If our D isn't going to be that great anyways maybe we could at least build for the future on the fly by trading some prospect forwards.

http://www.hockeysfu...hoenix_coyotes/

Brandon Gormley
David Rundblad

Has anyone heard of these guys?
I'm excited to see what Smith can do so I figured maybe we should try a youth movement.

[dirtydangles]

I proposed this 2/3 days ago. Rundblad would be relatively inexpensive and a RH shot. He hasnt been amazing in his time up but i think we should go too young rather than too old. He and smith could be mainstays for years if i pans out.

[RusDRW]

http://www.hockeysfu...hoenix_coyotes/

Brandon Gormley
David Rundblad

Has anyone heard of these guys?

are you joking? Gormley was consensus top-3 in 2011 draft while they got Rundblad from Ottawa for Turris. These are two defs with outstanding potential, especially, Gormley. It would take Fil+ to get Gormley or Jarkrock to get Rundblad (I think they would do it straight up).

Edited by RusDRW, 07 July 2012 - 07:19 AM.

[dirtydangles]

Gormley is loved by coyotes fans but they were apparently disappointed in rundblads transition to the na game. Id say rundblad is a raw karlssom who has serious questions in his own end. Gormley is like a yandle pretty much imo. I think we could have rundblad for immediate help up front. Id honestly move franzen straight for rundblad considering we get a lot younger on d and franzen wont hold value much longer.

[Ekmanc]

Rundblad is just freaking awful... If they get him we would be in serious trouble.

The boy can't play defense to save his life...

Edited by Ekmanc, 07 July 2012 - 08:05 AM.

[Diluvian04]

are you joking? Gormley was consensus top-3 in 2011 draft while they got Rundblad from Ottawa for Turris. These are two defs with outstanding potential, especially, Gormley. It would take Fil+ to get Gormley or Jarkrock to get Rundblad (I think they would do it straight up).

I haven't been able to keep up with other teams prospects. I have a hard enough time keeping up with our prospects:)

If we were to flip someone like Jarnkrok or Tatar for one of those guys I say do it. Filppula is a bit much for a prospect in my opinion. Maybe Nyquist for Gormley if either of the other two wouldn't work.

[dirtydangles]

Rundblad is just freaking awful... If they get him we would be in serious trouble.

The boy can't play defense to save his life...

Thats a bit of an unfair assesment. He Had 50 pts in 55 games in SEL and had 3pts in 6 games for phx. He makes up for defensive lapses with his pure offensive talent. This guy is the closest we may ever get to erik karlsson. Gormley is worth too much and he is the reason they can move yandle if they want.

[Ekmanc]

Thats a bit of an unfair assesment. He Had 50 pts in 55 games in SEL and had 3pts in 6 games for phx. He makes up for defensive lapses with his pure offensive talent. This guy is the closest we may ever get to erik karlsson. Gormley is worth too much and he is the reason they can move yandle if they want.

I've seen this guy play A LOT in both the SEL and the world juniors and yes he does put up some points but he is completely worthless in his own zone and he falters under pressure, whenever someone forechecks hard on him he coughs up pucks left, right and center.

Having him on our team would give me a heart attack

Trust me his upside is not even close to good enough to make him a viable option for us, I even have doubt that he will ever be a solid NHLplayer, he seems cut out for the big european ice.

[T-Ruff]

The reason they feel they can trade Yandle is because they have these guys along with OEK, they won't be trading them before Yandle who can land them a better return.

[steverman]

Rundblad is just freaking awful... If they get him we would be in serious trouble.

The boy can't play defense to save his life...

Yet the Wings still see something in Kindl...

[evilmrt]

Rundblad is just freaking awful... If they get him we would be in serious trouble.

The boy can't play defense to save his life...

Ah, no. This kid entered the NHL last season as a 20 yr old, and got thrown onto the Senators lineup... he warmed the bench mostly instead of actually playing minutes in the AHL where he would have adapted to NA rinks. Then they traded him to Phoenix. I think this kid would do well in a more robust development system like what the Wings have.

[Ekmanc]

Ah, no. This kid entered the NHL last season as a 20 yr old, and got thrown onto the Senators lineup... he warmed the bench mostly instead of actually playing minutes in the AHL where he would have adapted to NA rinks. Then they traded him to Phoenix. I think this kid would do well in a more robust development system like what the Wings have.

How much have you actually seen him play tho? I agree he didn't get much of a chance i Ottawa but that is also for a reason, the kid CAN'T play defense... he is a complete disaster in the defensive zone, among the worst I've ever seen actually.

[evilmrt]

How much have you actually seen him play tho? I agree he didn't get much of a chance i Ottawa but that is also for a reason, the kid CAN'T play defense... he is a complete disaster in the defensive zone, among the worst I've ever seen actually.

No I didn't, because he played a whole 2 games in Phoenix before they sent him down He's an unknown...if we got him for a minimum amount of talent, he might be worth developing for a full season (or even two) in GR.

[RusDRW]

Yet the Wings still see something in Kindl...

Excellent note! Thank you! I'm serioues as it seems nobody sees it. Bottom 6 at best. We should have traded him last deadline for some help up front.

[RyanBarnes!]

Rundblad is the master of offensive give aways. Red Wings fans who think Kindl is bad, wait till you see this guy!

[mjtm77]

are you joking? Gormley was consensus top-3 in 2011 draft while they got Rundblad from Ottawa for Turris. These are two defs with outstanding potential, especially, Gormley. It would take Fil+ to get Gormley or Jarkrock to get Rundblad (I think they would do it straight up).

Nope

[haroldsnepsts]

Excellent note! Thank you! I'm serioues as it seems nobody sees it. Bottom 6 at best. We should have traded him last deadline for some help up front.

It sounds like no one wanted him. They all had eyes on Smith.

Kindl could maybe have been a spare part thrown on top of an already good deal.

[Crymson]

Yet the Wings still see something in Kindl...

Kindl is not a standout defensive liability. He's not great at defense, but he rarely makes awful mistakes.

Excellent note! Thank you! I'm serioues as it seems nobody sees it. Bottom 6 at best. We should have traded him last deadline for some help up front.

Exactly whom amongst the very small number of sellers would have desired Kindl?

[Heaten]

I don't remember Kindl being that bad. I remember him being solid in his sheltered minutes, but really stepped up when Red Wings had a string of injuries on D. In fact, I thought Kindl looked brilliant when he was used on the top 4.

Maybe I see things differently?

[The Axe]

Im big on Kindl too, Heaten. Hes big and can skate. He needs more nasty, but hes got a good toolset.