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[Red Crazy]

Did LA have a legitament chance at the Cup this year? Almost everybody that knows anything about hockey would say no. They had the lowest scoring team in the league and barely squeaked into the playoffs as a #8 seed.

All of this doom and gloom stuff is stupid. There are 7 teams in the west that will not make the playoffs. Most likely they are:

Aneheim
Dallas
Columbus
Clagary
Edmonton
Minnesota
Colorado
Phoenix (maybe)
Nashville (maybe)

For us to NOT make the playoffs, we have to be worse than 2 of these teams. I just don't see it

Not sure that (as the team sits now) I would give the Wings the edge against Minnie or Nashville. Edmonton one of these years will rock the west.
What scares me the most is that some of our more injury prone players go down this season (Z and Kronner) then look out!

[haroldsnepsts]

Not sure that (as the team sits now) I would give the Wings the edge against Minnie or Nashville. Edmonton one of these years will rock the west.
What scares me the most is that some of our more injury prone players go down this season (Z and Kronner) then look out!

Agreed.

I think the Wings are still a playoff team, but one serious injury could change all that.

[VM1138]

MLive reports Wings are out of the running for Doan. Get this: other teams offered more than the Wings were willing to go.

Holland was willing to offer 3 years 4.5-5 million. One Eastern team offered what looks like 7.5 million for 4 years. What the hell is wrong with GMs this year? I'd give him 7.5 for one year, but not for 4.

[The Axe]

Jolly, agreed on doan and semin. But holland is a bum for losing out on suter & parise. That was the remedy to losing Lidstrom.

[MacK_Attack]

$7.5 million for Doan is outrageous, and there's probably a GM out there who will give it to him.

[haroldsnepsts]

MLive reports Wings are out of the running for Doan. Get this: other teams offered more than the Wings were willing to go.

Holland was willing to offer 3 years 4.5-5 million. One Eastern team offered what looks like 7.5 million for 4 years. What the hell is wrong with GMs this year? I'd give him 7.5 for one year, but not for 4.

I'm glad we're not getting Doan. Great player but only helps the team for a few years. And I'd rather the Wings start looking for some longer term solutions considering Dats, Z and Mule are all in their early 30s.

As for GM's being bats*** crazy with UFAs, honestly I feel like we say that every offseason. The league is so competitive these days that if they want to sign a big name player as a free agent, I think they have to throw big money at them when they're available. And there's always a few teams with enough cap room to drive up market prices into the overpaid arena. They just hope that after the first couple seasons of overpayment it tilts in their favor.

I also have to wonder if GM's are throwing this money around and mentally knocking 10% of the price in a salary rollback they're planning on.

[jollymania]

Jolly, agreed on doan and semin. But holland is a bum for losing out on suter & parise. That was the remedy to losing Lidstrom.

they also got ridiculous contracts although there is a 10% chance they might live up to them.

[Dabura]

We're never going to sign a big-name player again.

[Barrie]

We're never going to sign a big-name player again.

With the state the FA market is now, that's probably not a bad thing. We'll just develop our own stars.

Doan Will NOT sign with Detroit

Obviously it's because Holland has lost his moxie, and Detroit is slipping as a UFA destination.

[vladdy16]

I feel so sorry for those of you who have only known the Wings of the last 20 years, but I'm going to try and talk you all off the ledge. Recent history has spoiled this fanbase beyond belief. no doubt, but just because we've hit a bump in the road doesn't mean we should just blow up JLA and ship our current roster off to the remaining 29 teams. We will be able to sign desirable free agents, we will do well in the draft, we just won't have the usual cakewalk to the playoffs. Now, sit down for this one: we may not even make the playoffs. You can either jump ship or take a Valium and wait for the season to begin and enjoy what you have taken for granted for so long.

[ogreslayer]

$7.5 million for Doan is outrageous, and there's probably a GM out there who will give it to him.

And reports are now that it wasn't just one lone team that made that offer, it's what Doan's actually asking for. $7.5m a year for 4 years for 20 goals/50 points? I think Kenny's making the right call on dropping out of this sweepstakes. Better used for deadline acquisitions if there are any to be had & for re-signing the Wing's own UFAs/RFAs at the end of the season.

I feel so sorry for those of you who have only known the Wings of the last 20 years, but I'm going to try and talk you all off the ledge. Recent history has spoiled this fanbase beyond belief. no doubt, but just because we've hit a bump in the road doesn't mean we should just blow up JLA and ship our current roster off to the remaining 29 teams. We will be able to sign desirable free agents, we will do well in the draft, we just won't have the usual cakewalk to the playoffs. Now, sit down for this one: we may not even make the playoffs. You can either jump ship or take a Valium and wait for the season to begin and enjoy what you have taken for granted for so long.

Hear, hear. I got into the Wings in the late 80's so I really missed the worst of it, but if you want to talk futility & mismanagement...I'm a life-long Cubs fan. If anyone thinks this little blip on the radar this offseason or even the entire Dead Wings era is bad, none of this compares with what us Cubs fans go through year after year after year after year. Kenny missing out on his big targets or not electing to grossly overpay for talent this offseason? That's nothing...

Edited by ogreslayer, 27 July 2012 - 03:04 PM.

[RedWingsRox]

Don't want at $7.5 mill/yr for 4 ... next please. Don't blame Holland one bit. If he offered $4.5-5 per, that's about what Doan is worth. Maybe because he saw Semin with $7mill for a year and thinks he can cash in. Ridiculous demand.

[JasonNewEra]

He's nuts if he thinks we are going to pay that much for him. Just not our year boys, we'll get'em next time.

[pucktividi]

So a lazy,skinny boy Semin has guts to sign another 1y contract and yet big power forward Doan insists on 4y/7.5mil per at the age of 36

what a circus...

[ami]

I thought it had gotten to the point where it cannot get even more preposterous. i was wrong, very wrong - Doan demanded 4-year/$30mil contract...

[LeftWinger]

Well, if Doan is out...now what? We already know (even though it will be for the better of the team) that Holland WILL NOT acquire Bobby Ryan...he has to re-sign Abby and figure out who he is losing up front. Quincey was our big acquisition and even thought the off season started out nice with some role players, Holland has failed on all accounts to keep this team a legit contender...he refuses to outbid anyone or make the sacrifice's needed to better his team (Yandle.) The new Wings logo is "Wiz was right..."


I know these guys are getting overpaid, but sometimes you just have to do just that to win...

Edited by LeftWinger, 27 July 2012 - 03:49 PM.

[Wings10]

vladdy 100% agree with your post.. I remember the dead wings of the 70's, some fans just don''t know how good they have it.

[RedWingsRox]

Holland is going to have to find that forward or defenseman that is under the radar who will have a break out season next year and maybe make a trade for that player. This is the only sensible way to get a solid good player, free agency is stupid ridiculous.

[Crymson]

Well, if Doan is out...now what? We already know (even though it will be for the better of the team) that Holland WILL NOT acquire Bobby Ryan...he has to re-sign Abby and figure out who he is losing up front. Quincey was our big acquisition and even thought the off season started out nice with some role players, Holland has failed on all accounts to keep this team a legit contender...he refuses to outbid anyone or make the sacrifice's needed to better his team (Yandle.) The new Wings logo is "Wiz was right..."


I know these guys are getting overpaid, but sometimes you just have to do just that to win...

$30m/4y for a player of Doan's caliber and age would be unforgivably stupid, regardless of the circumstances. I realize you want your toys now, but the future must be considered as well.

It should be noted yet again that Yandle would cost an arm and a leg. There is absolutely no assurance that he could be had for any reasonable price. As such, a trade for him could very well do more harm than good. It should also be noted that Yandle is no replacement for Lidstrom. He is excellent offensively but mediocre defensively. Coyotes fans will admit as much.

So a lazy,skinny boy Semin has guts to sign another 1y contract and yet big power forward Doan insists on 4y/7.5mil per at the age of 36

what a circus...

Guts had nothing to do with Semin's decision. I get the feeling that he simply wasn't offered a multi-year deal at any substantial price by anyone. Rutherford openly said that he wouldn't have risked bringing in Semin on a long-term contract.

I'm glad we're not getting Doan. Great player but only helps the team for a few years.

He's also a power forward, and those do not age well.

Edited by Crymson, 27 July 2012 - 04:44 PM.

[pucktividi]

Guts had nothing to do with Semin's decision. I get the feeling that he simply wasn't offered a multi-year deal at any substantial price by anyone. Rutherford openly said that he wouldn't have risked bringing in Semin on a long-term contract.

He's been criticized by coaches,GM's,fans and media and still took short term contract in the NHL,rather than big $$$ in Russia.
Should give some credit to the bongo guy

Oh and I'm definitely looking forward to see the Canes game with Pierre or Crawford doing "between the benches" stuff,should be interesting

Edited by pucktividi, 27 July 2012 - 06:12 PM.