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#21 beachwing

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:55 PM

Dino, Homer....?

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:55 PM

Very serious.

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#23 LeftWinger

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:39 PM

No, Homer, no.........

Bring Fedorov Home For A Day!

 

He Needs To Retire A Red Wing.

 

When Gordie Leaves Us, the NHL MUST Retire The #9.


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Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:10 PM

I agree. Love Homer, he's a warrior, but this is gonna be a rebuilding year and we have a bunch of young guys ready to step into the lineup. We can't carry any more veteran forwards.

24/7 isn't gonna be as good without him though.


Wow. Totally with you on the "moving on from Homer" bit, but this is a "rebuilding year"? I know what you meant, but it was jarring to read that the Wings are "rebuilding" when they were the 2nd oldest team in the league last year (29.178), and the only significant changes are deleting Lidstrom and substituting guys like Stuart and Homer with guys like Samuelsson and Tootoo.

Yes, there are some younger guys who will become starters (Nyquist, Smith) whereas they would have been blocked by veterans before. But that happens on every team. The Flyers gave significant time to Sean Coturerier last year (who was a teenager), but that's because he was good...they were not a "rebuild" either.

A "rebuild" signifies one of two things:

(1) The core of your team is shifted to a group of younger players who have not yet reached their potential, but could be elite someday; or
(2) You are sacrificing short-term winning at the expense of evaluating a large volume of prospects on the NHL team, whether elite or not.

Coincidentally, the Minnesota Wild were in Camp #2 until they signed Parise and Suter. I don't see the Red Wings in either camp. And if they were, they certainly wouldn't be looking to add someone like Shane Doan or, arguably, Alexander Semin. Due to draft position and trading away picks, the Wings lack the organizational firepower to do a full "rebuild". We are still a playoff team, and Holland is evaluating each move for how it can make us a more competitive team and go further in the playoffs.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:35 PM

Very serious.


as in this kind of serious?

http://www.letsgowin...sign-holmstrom/

works every time


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Posted 12 July 2012 - 04:01 PM

I'm guessing that Homer decides to retire.
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#27 RyanBarnes!

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:58 AM

I'm guessing that Homer decides to retire.

I'm not so sure. In the article he is quoted saying that he is only interested in playing in North America, not in Europe, because he likes the small rinks more. Sounds to me like he still enjoys the game enough to consider playing else where.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:22 AM

Holland will give him a contract. Watch and see...
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:57 AM

I'm not so sure. In the article he is quoted saying that he is only interested in playing in North America, not in Europe, because he likes the small rinks more. Sounds to me like he still enjoys the game enough to consider playing else where.


Or maybe not:

But one thing's for sure — Holmstrom isn't playing anywhere else next season.


A report on the Swedish website HockeyExpressen.se suggested otherwise.


"Not true at all," Holmstrom said. "It's playing in Detroit, or nowhere else."





From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitne...3#ixzz20VFYlmof


Edited by ogreslayer, 13 July 2012 - 06:58 AM.


#30 turbowhistle86

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:08 AM

I'd welcome him back one more year, I think he plays with heart and determination (not that skillfully) but could still be an influence on the younger guys. At the very least he'd be a great pest for the goalies on the PP, which is fairly weak right now.

#31 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:25 AM

I don't want Homer back. Nothing against him but he needs to call it a day. I really hope we don't offer him a contract or I will be slapping myself in the face multiple times...

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:48 AM

I'm not so sure. In the article he is quoted saying that he is only interested in playing in North America, not in Europe, because he likes the small rinks more. Sounds to me like he still enjoys the game enough to consider playing else where.

But will there be a spot for him
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:34 AM

From Detroit News:


Wings forward Tomas Holmstrom said he'll talk with general manager Ken Holland in the next week or two, and the two sides will make a decision as to whether Holmstrom will return for one more season.

But one thing's for sure — Holmstrom isn't playing anywhere else next season.

A report on the Swedish website HockeyExpressen.se suggested otherwise.


"Not true at all," Holmstrom said. "It's playing in Detroit, or nowhere else."


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Posted 14 July 2012 - 08:47 AM

Holland will give him a contract. Watch and see...

At MOST he'll give him a 2 way courtesy contract like he did with Maltby... And if somehow he EARNS a job out of camp, then he obviously deserves it... With that said, I still see him ultimately retiring

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


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Posted 14 July 2012 - 09:58 AM

At MOST he'll give him a 2 way courtesy contract like he did with Maltby... And if somehow he EARNS a job out of camp, then he obviously deserves it... With that said, I still see him ultimately retiring


If he doesn't retire outright, this is what I see as well.

And I also predict that LGW will explode with people calling for Holland's head, not realizing that Homer can be sent to GR and refuse and it won't cost us a thing.

Sure, Mr and Mrs I have to pay for the extra hotel room in TC, but that's not out of our pockets. It also allows fans one more chance to track him down for autographs etc. Everyone wins.

I don't know if Homer will go that route, but if he doesn't retire outright, it is either this or the Wings just won't offer him a contract and he'll kind of hang in space unemployed until he officially retires. I'd rather they have a nice press conference. Hopefully it will include subtitles.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:19 AM

Asking for another year is unfair. Homer knowes that he can't perform at the level that will help the team. Therefore he should learn from Nick. If you can't perform the way you want to, than you should leave.
If he needs money, he can go play in some other place.

Edited by arag, 14 July 2012 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

Kenny should tell Homer that he is more than welcome to come back as soon as he convinces Lidstrom to play one more year.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 05:50 PM

He did score in the Preds series.

Don't Toews me, bro!


#39 LeftWinger

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 06:13 PM

No Homer, No....

Bring Fedorov Home For A Day!

 

He Needs To Retire A Red Wing.

 

When Gordie Leaves Us, the NHL MUST Retire The #9.


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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:07 PM

I would love to see him keep playing, as long as it's not for the Wings. I think it'd be sweet seeing his smiling face with Hawks...or any other team for that matter. Good luck Tomas.
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