Wings4Life19 150 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Was just wanting to get opinions on if people here think that all the rumors about Franzen getting included in these blockbuster deals could jump start him to be more consistent with him play. I know that if my boss was wanting to send me to a rival company that has no business and where there was a good chance I would be unhappy I would pick up my work ethic. Who knows, maybe this was Holland's plan all along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime...... 8 F.Michael, SaCkaveli20, evilzyme and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Guess we'll just have to suffer with a 4 million dollar 30 goal scorer. At least we aren't Columbus and have to pay 7.5 million for a 30 goal scorer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Guess we'll just have to suffer with a 4 million dollar 30 goal scorer. At least we aren't Columbus and have to pay 7.5 million for a 30 goal scorer. Nash got 41 like 6 years ago or something... I'd only be good with a trade for Nash or Ryan if Franzen went the other way and we kept Flip. No moving Nyquist or Smith either. there's a long list of prospects that the Wings can trade not named Smith or Nyquist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Guess we'll just have to suffer with a 4 million dollar 30 goal scorer. At least we aren't Columbus and have to pay 7.5 million for a 30 goal scorer. It's not like one guy had a better passing center than the other. 3 F.Michael, uk_redwing and Stinkyness reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 It's not like one guy had a better passing center than the other. Of course, an elite player can't make people around him better. If I'm paying someone top 5 money in his position I would want him to be in the top 50 production of his position no matter if he's playing on the worst team or not. He's was 58th among forwards playing all 82 games. Sorry top 5 players produce, Rick Nash is overpaid and has not proved that he can even score 80 points yet in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Of course, an elite player can't make people around him better. If I'm paying someone top 5 money in his position I would want him to be in the top 50 production of his position no matter if he's playing on the worst team or not. He's was 58th among forwards playing all 82 games. Sorry top 5 players produce, Rick Nash is overpaid and has not proved that he can even score 80 points yet in his career. I don't know if any player in the league could have scored 80 points with Columbus last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,458 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Nothing will spark Franzen. What you see is what you get, for good and ill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Trades are no fun, he wants to have fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Has he been mentioned in serious trade rumors other than on this site? Like Bobby Ryan has been legitimately shopped by the Ducks, but I haven't really heard anything like that with Mule. Just speculation. As for what will inspire Franzen to play to his potential on a more regular basis, who the hell knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Cause Mules just wanna have fun... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Well if playing with the world class player like Datsyuk didn't spark him too much then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number19 159 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 I don't know if any player in the league could have scored 80 points with Columbus last year. Crosby maybe, that's all I got. Columbus might as well be an AHL team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 I think that he was going to have a good year despite the trade rumors. I expect a big year for Franzen - just like Hudler last year. Franzen is certainly capable of it and the man has some pride. Having a so-so year followed by a terrible playoff is all the motivation he will need. Mark my words; mule is going to have a great season in 2012-2013. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Guess we'll just have to suffer with a 4 million dollar 30 goal scorer. At least we aren't Columbus and have to pay 7.5 million for a 30 goal scorer. I can bet that Franzen's totals would be not so great if he played for the CBJ. Nash would pot 40-50 goals with Pavel. 2 Nev and roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 I can bet that Franzen's totals would be not so great if he played for the CBJ. Nash would pot 40-50 goals with Pavel. Of course, but Franzen isn't getting paid to be a top 5 player at his position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Of course, but Franzen isn't getting paid to be a top 5 player at his position. Then maybe we should replace him with a top 5 player at his position and see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Fun? What is fun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Then maybe we should replace him with a top 5 player at his position and see what happens. Good idea, don't think they are available though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Good idea, don't think they are available though. Not to us, apparently. I doubt Nash will be traded to Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Has he been mentioned in serious trade rumors other than on this site? Like Bobby Ryan has been legitimately shopped by the Ducks, but I haven't really heard anything like that with Mule. Just speculation. As for what will inspire Franzen to play to his potential on a more regular basis, who the hell knows. No we just think hes our trade bait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Not to us, apparently. I doubt Nash will be traded to Detroit. Yeah, Nash wasn't even in the top 50 for his position last season. Fleischmann had a better season than Nash playing on a team that scores less than Columbus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 keep seeing that mule wants to have fun..well mule if you wanted to have fun you should be in a beer league where it doesnt mean s***.. nothing will spark the mule. the only thing that might spark him is a new environment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Maybe Holland sent Johan to Cedar Point and Boyne Water Park to have more fun this summer so he will be ready for the regular season... As we all know, if Johan is relaxed, happy, and havig fun, he will be a happy mule. On a side note, I doubt the trade talks will motivate him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archimet 10 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Tom Renney will probably be a bigger influence on Franzen than the trade rumors. I fully expect Franzen to put up 35-40 goals this year barring an injury and a lock-out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites