FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted August 13, 2012 Philly, Nashville and the Blues are now all said to be bidding for JBo - agree he is going to be too pricey. At this point the Wings should trade a bottom 6 forward and draft pick to San Jose for Doug Murray and hope an opportunity presents itself at the trade deadline... or maybe Volchenkov from NJ (though like JBo he has a no-trade clause) . SJ and NJ have too many defensemen right now. Murray's physical play is great, but I'd prefer a right handed shooting defenceman. As it stands we only have White, and he's far from a shutdown guy. If we can't get a RH shut down guy via trade then I'd try to swap some of our Bottom 6 guys into another top 6 guy and use the freed up roster spots to sign a UFA who can fill the defensive need for a season or 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted August 13, 2012 I'm of the opinion we could use him too...His abilities would be of better use in Detroit with the style the Wings play. It's all rather a moot point since he now won't be a Red Wing...Me thinks the new CBA will determine who Hollands tries to sign via UFA (whoever is left), or quite possibly pick up someone who's potentially on a waiver (if the cap takes a big nose dive). Could the Wings use JBo? Sure. Not worth opening a crater somewhere else in the lineup...like the top 6...to get him though. Kenny's better off going with a cheap UFA to split time with Kindl in the 6/7 spot or wait to see what happens w/ the CBA. The need may be there but I have a feeling the price is nowhere to what Kenny would like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted August 13, 2012 Philly, Nashville and the Blues are now all said to be bidding for JBo - agree he is going to be too pricey. At this point the Wings should trade a bottom 6 forward and draft pick to San Jose for Doug Murray and hope an opportunity presents itself at the trade deadline... or maybe Volchenkov from NJ (though like JBo he has a no-trade clause) . SJ and NJ have too many defensemen right now. To SJ: Eaves, Emmerton, and Mursak To DET: Demers or Braun To NJ: Eaves, Emmerton, and Mursak To DET: Fayne Am I being realistic at all? Those guys are all relatively young RH D-men who appear to be just depth guys, which we need Could the Wings use JBo? Sure. Not worth opening a crater somewhere else in the lineup...like the top 6...to get him though. Kenny's better off going with a cheap UFA to split time with Kindl in the 6/7 spot or wait to see what happens w/ the CBA. The need may be there but I have a feeling the price is nowhere to what Kenny would like. Mike Commodore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 15, 2012 Could they move a forward to D? Maybe even J Andersson? I think Drew Miller would be the prime candidate for that spot. Kind of like Meech. Didn't Miller used to play a mix of D and Fwd when he was younger? 1 IllinoisRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted August 15, 2012 Could they move a forward to D? Maybe even J Andersson? Maybe a healthy eaves? I like him on forward but I figure if he's one of our best PKers, he might be a decent shut down guy.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 15, 2012 To SJ: Eaves, Emmerton, and Mursak To DET: Demers or Braun To NJ: Eaves, Emmerton, and Mursak To DET: Fayne Holland would get laughed at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted August 16, 2012 Red Wings "have inquired" about Keith Yandle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted August 16, 2012 Red Wings talking to Calgary Flames about making trade for veteran defenseman Jay Bouwmeester Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) This stuff about the Wings being in talks with the Flames is hilarious. TSN and NBC sports both quoted Mlive on the matter, and Mlive was reporting on the basis of this totally unreliable source. Randy Workman, the supposed team insider, is a random fan blogger, and not a notably reputable one. Despite the absolutely unconfirmed nature of the source, and despite the fact that many fans have deduced its probable falsity, numerous news outlets are running around with the news that the Wings have offered Filppula, Ericsson and a pick for Bouwmeester. I guess everyone is desperate for hockey news. It's silly either way. I don't doubt that Holland has inquired about Yandle. That's wouldn't be surprising. An inquiry is a fairly common act. Edited August 16, 2012 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) We're desperate for any kind of news re: the enormous, gaping crater on our blue line. This Bouwmeester thread is 15 pages long and counting. It's been quiet on the Yandle front. (Actually, I think that might be the first "official" confirmation that Holland is at all interested in Yandle. For what that's worth.) Edited August 16, 2012 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Did anyone else hear that Calgary was asking for Filppula, Ericsson and Nyquist in return for Bouwmeester? I didn't think we were shopping for Weber....sheesh! Edited August 16, 2012 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey man nice shot! 144 Report post Posted August 16, 2012 Did anyone else hear that Calgary was asking for Filppula, Ericsson and Nyquist in return for Bouwmeester? I didn't think we were shopping for Weber....sheesh! Wow...ya screw that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted August 16, 2012 Flip could be a Flame for a season then return via free agency. But, really, we don't know that there's any truth to the story, and if there is, it might just be Feaster's initial demand, which you'd expect to be outrageous. Trading is negotiating; demands and offers can change any number of times. Ultimately, I don't see us landing Yandle or Bouwmeester. Yandle will probably go to Philly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 17, 2012 I wonder if Zetterberg is a trading option. He's the guy I think would have the highest trade value. Z for Y straight up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 17, 2012 I wonder if Zetterberg is a trading option. He's the guy I think would have the highest trade value. Z for Y straight up. You're suggesting that we trade our next captain, who happens to be a very good scorer, an excellent two-way forward, and the most prolific playoff producer since the lockout, in exchange for a defenseman who can't play defense. No offense, but are all of these trade ideas jokes? 13 LeftWinger, Namingway, number9 and 10 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,914 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 You're suggesting that we trade our next captain, who happens to be a very good scorer, an excellent two-way forward, and the most prolific playoff producer since the lockout, in exchange for a defenseman who can't play defense. No offense, but are all of these trade ideas jokes? I agree! Like I said earlier, I didn't know we were trying to acquire Weber...these trade proposals are getting out of hand. Just sign Kubina and trade two forwards and lets go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 17, 2012 You're suggesting that we trade our next captain, who happens to be a very good scorer, an excellent two-way forward, and the most prolific playoff producer since the lockout, in exchange for a defenseman who can't play defense. No offense, but are all of these trade ideas jokes? Just saying that Yandle wont come cheap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 17, 2012 Just saying that Yandle wont come cheap Yandle will likely be of extortionate expense. Phoenix hasn't any reason to let him go. He's on an affordable contract, and that's vital to a team that has literally no money to spare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 227 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 I would rather have boumeester than yandle. mostly because yandle will be way more expensive to acquire than j-bo will be. Yandle isn't even that great defensively anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 17, 2012 I would rather have boumeester than yandle. mostly because yandle will be way more expensive to acquire than j-bo will be. Yandle isn't even that great defensively anyways Bouwmeester won't be worth the vastly inflated price that'll likely be asked for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 I would rather have boumeester than yandle. mostly because yandle will be way more expensive to acquire than j-bo will be. Yandle isn't even that great defensively anyways I second this! I don't really feel we need another offensive minded defenseman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 I second this! I don't really feel we need another offensive minded defenseman. Nope, we got Smith. We need another Stuart. Most of our good D prospects are offensive aside from McKee who's a few years away and Lashoff but he'd be better off developing more in GR to become a really good shutdown guy. That's why we were calling for Vandermeer before. Sign him for a year to bridge the gap. Once again, i wish Janik was still here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,457 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Any credibility to this Keaton Ellerby to Detroit rumor? I don't know anything about the guy except he was a tenth overall pick. Anybody know anything about him or the rumor? Edit: After looking into it I found that this kid is 6'4 220 lbs, hits, fights, and is Shane Doan's first cousin. Still don't know anything about his overall game though. Edited August 17, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,205 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Any credibility to this Keaton Ellerby to Detroit rumor? I don't know anything about the guy except he was a tenth overall pick. Anybody know anything about him or the rumor? Edit: After looking into it I found that this kid is 6'4 220 lbs, hits, fights, and is Shane Doan's first cousin. Still don't know anything about his overall game though. Seems to be getting a lot of buzz, but I don't know if it's built on anything super-credible or confirmed. I'd love for it to happen. EDIT: Actually, not as much buzz as I'd thought. Which for me actually makes it feel more credible, for whatever reasons. Edited August 17, 2012 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,457 Report post Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Yeah, it all seems to dead end back at the same place, the only reason I even noticed it was because of the news feed at the top of the forum here. As I said, I don't really know much about him, but he seems like a pretty tough dude. Edit: The scouting report I read on him suggests he's a good stay at home d-man with shutdown capability. I'm sold. Edited August 18, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites