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#41 ZigZagYourTorso

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:50 AM

I really do hope that we swing a trade for Bouwmeester. He was fantastic in Florida, and would do great in our system. It's not his fault that Calgary over payed for him. It's painfully obvious that he does not fit well in Calgary's system.

I would also love to see Mr. Holland try to work a trade for Volchenkov. He would be a perfect replacement for Stuart. Not too mention, that I think we could get both of them for reasonable prices.

Kronwall - Bouwmeester
Smith - Volchenkov
Ericsson - Quincey

That is not a bad set of defenseman at all.
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#42 Hatethedrake!

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:15 AM


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($7.000m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m)/ Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.775m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,863,712; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $336,288

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:26 AM

If you talk to people in Calgary, they'll tell you that he just had an MVP worthy season this past year. Stats may not have been great, but without the way he played, Calgary would have been near the bottom of the standings.

and he's still good, don't get me wrong, but he's not the Kipper of old... their D was not the sole reason they didn't make the playoffs...

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

No thanks. Way too high a cap hit for what he brings. Talk about over paying.

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#45 dobbles

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:28 PM

He has never had any edge. He is only a top pairing defenseman because of his pay cheque. Calgary would love to move him and his contract.


i disagree. he has been playing the minutes of a top pairing guy for half a decade... and in florida, he was able to do it as a 1/2 ppg player and as a plus player post lockout. in calgary his numbers were down, but last year he still let the team in TOI. if you aren't a top pairing guy, you aren't on the ice that much.

i do agree he doesnt play with an edge. but the reason we need a defenseman is that we just lost a guy who was the definition of not playing with an edge. to me, thats why bouwmeester would be a decent fit. he plays that same style as lidstrom did. obviously no one does is as good as number 5 did, but why try to plug a round hole with a square peg? at least this way its a round peg, just not as bad ass of one!

If you talk to people in Calgary, they'll tell you that he just had an MVP worthy season this past year. Stats may not have been great, but without the way he played, Calgary would have been near the bottom of the standings.


not sure who you talk to, but he is pretty much universally hated on calgarypuck... they have been figuring out ways to trade him all summer...

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:30 PM

Gan Dirardi.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:42 PM

Gan Dirardi.

What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

nothing.

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

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Here in this one as well

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and finally

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Holland is a damn good GM. period.


#48 Dabura

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:46 PM

I'd prefer Dirardi to Bouwmeester.

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#49 Hey man nice shot!

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:50 PM

I have always liked him and would take him if calgary was moving him out for a reasonable trade.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:57 PM

I'd prefer Dirardi to Bouwmeester.

As would I, but he would cost more in a trade, so it's not an apples to apples comparison and doesn't really apply here... If Girardi is available and can be had for the same package as they'd give for Bo, you make that deal without thinking twice...

I have always liked him and would take him if calgary was moving him out for a reasonable trade.

Agreed and I think he could realistically be had for something along the lines of Kindl, Emmerton (or Miller, or Mursak) and a 3rd

It wouldn't be a very hefty package, you might even be able to get him for less than that, as you'd be taking on cap hit as well, which is what Calgary wants to dump...

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


#51 Dabura

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 03:00 PM

And Bobby Ryan isn't Rick Nash, but we're talking about the former in the new thread about the latter.

We need to trade for a top-pairing defenseman. Some people say Bouwmeester. I say Girardi. Maybe Girardi would cost more - but Nash probably would've cost us a lot more than Ryan would cost us.

Wait, why am I defending this?

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#52 Detroit # 1 Fan

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 03:08 PM

I'd love it if the price Feaster would ask for were realistic. But it won't be because he's an ego maniac, I can envision the conversation starting with "Ok Ken, so how about that Nyquist kid, oh and that Smith kid."

Bouwmeester, despite his redonk cap hit, would fill the void of Lidstrom about as well as we'll find at this point. 6'4, elite skater, needs a change of scenery like it's going out of style. If not for Feaster as Calgary's GM, I think this could happen. As it stands, probably not going too.

Edited by Detroit # 1 Fan, 23 July 2012 - 03:09 PM.

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#53 Hey man nice shot!

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:36 PM

If jbo isant a option possibly visnovsky?http://www.hockeybuz...nders/166/45751. That of corse would mean they ruled in favor of him and anahiem would trade him to avoid a lockeroom mess lol.

Edited by Hey man nice shot!, 23 July 2012 - 04:42 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:13 PM

I'd take him if he agrees to a massive paycut.
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#55 stevkrause

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:59 PM

I'd take him if he agrees to a massive paycut.

you can't restructure contracts, not an option

All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:

Here in this thread

Here in this one as well

Here in this one too

and finally

Here


Holland is a damn good GM. period.


#56 frankgrimes

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 06:01 PM

For 5 million hell yes....

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#57 pucktividi

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

idk,but still thinks he's among the most overrated players in the league.

#58 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

I think when you started this thread you should have made it as a poll too. :)

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:46 PM

As long as it didn't cost too much going the other way, I'd be all for it, just coming into his prime, he's been on horrible teams, and he'd thrive here, I'm convinced of it... Only 2 years on the contract too, so it wouldn't be too much to take on if it didn't work...

This is exactly what I'm thinking...

Many bash the guy for any reason they can find...Regardless of his salary - the Flames still play him as a top 2 Dman; they must see something in his game to warrant that amount of ice time.

Many also forget that Brad Stuart also failed to live up to expectations on 3 previous teams before joining the Red Wings...That wasn't such a bad trade by Holland now was it?

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#60 F.Michael

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:55 PM

He can, and would, here... Florida, then Calgary... I think that's all that needs to be said...

He would thrive in the Wings system, and I would put money on it, that if he came here, he would have better numbers next year than Suter...

Lets not kid ourselves...Very few Dmen out there can play in Detroit's "puck possession" game; it's a demand that many Dmen find challenging to say the least.

Bouwmeester has the skillset to play the style the Red Wings prefer - just that he's on a team in Calgary that prefers the simple/safer approach of using the boards/glass whenever pressured...JBo appears not too keen on that system.

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