Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) I'm sick of all those divisional,conference,"arch rivals" crap. Kenny should explore eastern conference a little bit more and probably pay less than acquiring some western conference big fish via trade. Hartnell or Lucic would be ungodly awesome. (Not that Ryan wouldn't, mind you.) Edited July 24, 2012 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsAlways 486 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Breaking: Columbus and Nashville to merge into one single team to make up for losses. The CBJ's get a grinder a floater and AHLer and a pick that will be in the end of the draft. Anisomov has more playoff goals than Nash. The Nashville Grey Jackets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Hartnell or Lucic would be ungodly awesome. (Not that Ryan wouldn't, mind you.) Nah those type of players are pure gold and the price would be as high as for Nash. But hey,maybe Ken should make a brilliant move and send an offer sheet to E.Kane 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Hartnell would cost the farm, I agree. (Then again, he's going to be a UFA next summer.) Lucic, I'm not so sure. He's been on and off the block for the last couple of seasons - if rumors, whispers, rumblings are to be believed. Edited July 24, 2012 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Nah those type of players are pure gold and the price would be as high as for Nash. But hey,maybe Ken should make a brilliant move and send an offer sheet to E.Kane For Lucic, I can see that, but I don't know about Hartnell. Philly will probably want to dump some cap space and we could help them out with that. But at the same time I'm not sure Hartnell improves this team to the degree we want it to. I would rather sign Semin and/or Doan and then move Filppula/Franzen for a mid-aged defensive asset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllinoisRedWingsFan 49 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 As someone I know said when I first told them "The Rangers RIPPED off the Jackets and Detroit had the superior offer." Seriously at we know that Holland is at least TRYING to do something! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllinoisRedWingsFan 49 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Geez, makes me wonder what Hollands "Hell of an offer" was...he could have beaten this without blinking...Howsen is an absolute jack wagon... Franzine/Tatr/Mursak/1st destroys what the Rags gave them....Not unless Holland low-balled again....Bring on Ryan! NOT! It aint gonna happen...our roster is set...I believe it now 100%...as much as I like the Tootoo signing, Holland failed this year...FAIL by low-balling! Holland just cannot let go of Franzilina....God I hate Franzine! From what I heard it was Flip, Nyquist and a 1st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Who cares what we offered. Nash is a Ranger end of story. I think Holland offered Dats, Hank and Nick to come out of retirement for one season for Nash. Howson was smart and turned it down lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 The return Columbus got back isn't that horrible. Dubinsky definitely has the tools to score 50 points per year consistently. Won't be a superstar, but I've always liked him. I think he needed a change of scenery. Not sure if Columbus will help, but I guess we'll find out. What does Columbus look like now as far as their potential lineup goes? Umberger-Anisimov-Brassard Foligno-Johansen-Prospal Letestu-Dubinsky-Atkinson Boll-MacKenzie-Dorsett Bass/C.Gillies J.Johnson-Wisniewski Aucoin-Tyutin Nikitin-J.Moore Erixon Steve Mason Sergei Bobrovsky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 The return Columbus got back isn't that horrible. Dubinsky definitely has the tools to score 50 points per year consistently. Won't be a superstar, but I've always liked him. I think he needed a change of scenery. Not sure if Columbus will help, but I guess we'll find out. What does Columbus look like now as far as their potential lineup goes? Umberger-Anisimov-Brassard Foligno-Johansen-Prospal Letestu-Dubinsky-Atkinson Boll-MacKenzie-Dorsett Bass/C.Gillies J.Johnson-Wisniewski Aucoin-Tyutin Nikitin-J.Moore Erixon Steve Mason Sergei Bobrovsky That's such a ridiculously bad roster... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 That's such a ridiculously bad roster... It's so laughably awful. The Columbus fan is in for a rough year. I understand Howson being reluctant to ship Nash to us, but Franzen or Filppula would atleast have helped their team NOW. Anisimov is a depth scorer like Hudler, Dubinsky is a good 3rd liner and there's a reason Erixon has changed teams more times than he's been on the ice in the NHL. If I was the columbus fan I would have rather gotten a better return and face Nash 6 times a year than to get spare parts and a pick and not see him at all. 1 IllinoisRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Rangers are my pick to win the Presidents/Stanley combo. As someone I know said when I first told them "The Rangers RIPPED off the Jackets and Detroit had the superior offer." Seriously at we know that Holland is at least TRYING to do something! That didn't matter. Columbus wouldn't trade with a division rival. 1 IllinoisRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 The return isn't that bad as people make it to believe. Erixon is a very good D prospect that has potential to be as good as , for example, T. Enstrom. Dubinsky and Anisimov are hardworking top-9 guys and 1st round pick never hurts. They need a coach like Babcock to make things happen with that roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Yep, with Nash and Weber going East, the Eastern Conference only gets stronger. It is odd how the Western teams are willing to shoot the conference in the foot and trade star players to the East. This is a big shift from NCAA style conference loyalty. Do they not realize that there are a significant number of fans that will come to games just to see whatever big name is in town? Stars come and go but imo fans come to see known teams with a little bit of history and a winning record. The Nashville Grey Jackets? Talk about rebelling right there. My the Rangers continue to fail to win it all as they find ways to reload till the explode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 The return Columbus got back isn't that horrible. Dubinsky definitely has the tools to score 50 points per year consistently. Won't be a superstar, but I've always liked him. I think he needed a change of scenery. Not sure if Columbus will help, but I guess we'll find out. What does Columbus look like now as far as their potential lineup goes? Umberger-Anisimov-Brassard Foligno-Johansen-Prospal Letestu-Dubinsky-Atkinson Boll-MacKenzie-Dorsett Bass/C.Gillies J.Johnson-Wisniewski Aucoin-Tyutin Nikitin-J.Moore Erixon Steve Mason Sergei Bobrovsky "For me, knowing Detroit’s history they don’t really pay the market value for a defenseman or any player" - James Wisniewski on NHL Live Enjoy your fair market value contract on that AHL team you're on. 2 Rick and Wingsfan72 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 I head a Nash "sound bite"; he said that he wanted to be part of a "re-build" in Columbus and then he stopped. Sounded like a strategically planned "burn" to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishconnection 36 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 The Nashville Grey Jackets? Split the difference. Cincinnati Catfish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 "For me, knowing Detroit’s history they don’t really pay the market value for a defenseman or any player" - James Wisniewski on NHL Live That statement probably gave a good laugh to Ericsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lesh 93 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Bobby, on the other hand, is a possibility. If he moves somewhere other than here, I'll start getting irritated. My thoughts exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 Y'know, realistically...we're not getting Ryan. And this saddens me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Good trade by the Rangers and good for Nash.... Always liked the Rags... As for Columbus, ouch! That GM is really making a mess... Edited July 24, 2012 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted July 24, 2012 For sure. The last thing a GM is going to do when he's forced to trade his franchise player is trade him to his biggest division rival so he has to see the guy 6 times a year. But ultimately, what does it say about your franchise player when your fanchise has done nothing but suck? I could see not wanting to trade a true franchise player to a true rival, but Nash and the supposed rivarlry the Jackets claim to have with the Wings don't count imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Can't you just feel the love? From Sportsnet: Later today, Scott Howson will trade his vault of Wayne Gretzky rookie cards for an Atari video game system & half-bag of Jolly Ranchers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuts2u 22 Report post Posted July 26, 2012 When Howeson refused to even reply to a legitimate offer like Holland made it's pretty clear he has zero intention of making a trade. If I make you a lowball offer and you're even remotely interested in trading with me your response will be to make a counter-offer. As far as Suter and Parise go? The Wings were the only team other than Minny to get a face-to-face meeting with Suter in the days before he signed with the WIld. Holland obviously didn't "low-ball" Suter or he wouldn't have bothered with a face-to-face. The Wild handcuffed themselves by taking two guys on for huge cap-hits for the next 13 years. They paid well over market for a life-time contract. If Holland blows his load on Suter AND Parise at that price he'd have a hell of a time re-signing Datsyuk, Filppula, Smith and Nyquist over the next two years. It's not Holland's job to give antsy Wings fans something to tweet about by signing every big name player each summer while ignoring how it impacts the team's cap situation for the next 13 years. There's a reason why the Wild landed Suter and Parise instead of a legitimate franchise. Reason and logic are not allowed on this board. How dare you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsAlways 486 Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Nash getting out of Columbus is the equivalent of dropping a load after being constipated for nine years... I'm happy for him and wish him well with the Rags. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites