Wingydingy19 7 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Throughout this offseason the name that continues to be talked about via trade is Bobby Ryan. My question is what about Corey Perry? I know about all the problems Ryan has had with the ducks basically telling Bob Murray to either stop dangling him or trade him. Here is the thing though, if you're Anaheim and Perry and Getzlaf are on the last year of their deals wouldn't you be more inclined to trade one of them as opposed to Ryan due to the fact that you will probably lose one of them if not both for nothing next offseason. I'm not saying that he is available and I have no source to quote but it just seems to make the most sense to mend fences with Ryan and take him off the block and potentially move either Perry or Getzlaf. You have to figure that both won't resign in Ducky land as it'll be their first chance at a big payday via UFA. I know the new CBA will probably keep them from getting a Parise type contract but even after they hash out the new agreement players like Perry and Getzlaf will still get a huge payday just maybe not attached to a 13-14 term. I'm just throwing this out there as we all know it's been a tad slow in red wing land this offseason and No I'm not blaming Holland for all of it. Edited July 25, 2012 by Wingydingy19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 I'd love to see Getzlaf here, but that day won't come. I think with any of the big name players in the West, they will only go East. Not many owners/GM's will want to watch their ex-stars throttle them in the playoffs every year on their way to a Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 I'd love to see Getzlaf here, but that day won't come. I think with any of the big name players in the West, they will only go East. Not many owners/GM's will want to watch their ex-stars throttle them in the playoffs every year on their way to a Cup. Columbus did with LA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Columbus did with LA At what point during the Kings run did they beat Columbus in the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 At what point during the Kings run did they beat Columbus in the playoffs? When they made it and CBJ didn't. 2 centcougar07 and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 When they made it and CBJ didn't. Both of you entirely missed my point.... Why would the Ducks want to trade any of their big stars to Detroit, only to potentially watch them light the Ducks up in the playoffs every year on their way to a possible Cup? Columbus will likely never have to face Carter and the Kings in the playoffs, so the deal doesn't sting nearly as bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Both of you entirely missed my point.... Why would the Ducks want to trade any of their big stars to Detroit, only to potentially watch them light the Ducks up in the playoffs every year on their way to a possible Cup? Columbus will likely never have to face Carter and the Kings in the playoffs, so the deal doesn't sting nearly as bad. You didn't say that in your first post... Glad you clarified that, so in essence we didn't miss your point, you missed putting the information in text. GMs can watch their ex players on TV like... Kind of what maybe the other person took your reply also Different story once you did that Edited July 25, 2012 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 You didn't say that in your first post... Glad you clarified that, so in essence we didn't miss your point, you missed putting the information in text. Different story once you did that Read my first post again, slick. Noting that most big names will be dealt to the opposing conference because no GM wants to watch his ex-star beat them in the playoffs each year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 I just can't begin to start speculating about Getlaf and Perry when I've spent the better part of six months speculating on everyone from Parise and Suter, to Nash and Weber. All this speculation doesn't really amount to s*** with Kenny and Co. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Both of you entirely missed my point.... Why would the Ducks want to trade any of their big stars to Detroit, only to potentially watch them light the Ducks up in the playoffs every year on their way to a possible Cup? Columbus will likely never have to face Carter and the Kings in the playoffs, so the deal doesn't sting nearly as bad. Well it's good that ANA didn't make the playoffs last season either, so apparently they wouldn't have to see them play against Detroit either. See, we can play that game. The goal of every franchise is to make the playoffs, regardless if they are currently a contender or not. Noone makes a trade saying "Well, they're never going to make the playoffs so might as well just give them our star player!" Come on... it doesn't matter likely, not likely, maybe likely, you trade to trade. I understand the point that the Ducks don't or would like to not end up trading within the conference, I think everyone can agree to that, but it still happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Read my first post again, slick. Noting that most big names will be dealt to the opposing conference because no GM wants to watch his ex-star beat them in the playoffs each year. Your initial post could of been taken differently as I pointed out in my post above. Please refrain from pulling me into an argument or baiting... And even derailing a thread. To bring the thread back on topic, I would gladly welcome any Getzlaf or Ryan... Both play hard and drive the next down the middle... What we need Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Please refrain from pulling me into an argument or baiting... And even derailing a thread. 1000 apologies for "baiting" you into an argument that you started 1 Wingsfan72 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 How much coin is Perry or Getz making anyways? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbowhistle86 155 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Perry @ $5.32m per Getzlaf @ $5.325m per Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 We could really use a perry type on our team. Sice both fil and perry are ufas after this year the deal would be more fair and they need a 2C. Id do Fil, Franzen and 1st straight up with no prospects lost. Tatar is almost ready and theres too many guys waitig in rhe wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,959 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Why choose only one of them? you make the trade for Ryan (younger, makes less money, still signed for three years) and that increases your odds of getting one of the others in the offseason next year. Make the deal for Ryan and posiibly have two of the three in 2013. It would be great to land all of them, but now thats dreaming! Odds are, whereever Ryan ends up, one of them will sign there next year...if they aren't traded at the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 I'd love to see Getzlaf here, but that day won't come. I think with any of the big name players in the West, they will only go East. Not many owners/GM's will want to watch their ex-stars throttle them in the playoffs every year on their way to a Cup. This comment was pretty straight forward. If you didn't understand what he was trying to say you either A) have comprehension problems, or B) are trying to be difficult. We all know why Nash went Eash, same situation applies here...not really that difficult of a concept to understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winterberg 6 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 1000 apologies for "baiting" you into an argument that you started I like this guy This comment was pretty straight forward. If you didn't understand what he was trying to say you either A) have comprehension problems, or B) are trying to be difficult. We all know why Nash went Eash, same situation applies here...not really that difficult of a concept to understand. QFT Anyway, some people (on HFBoards) seem to think that Filppula's trade value is not as high as it could be due to the fact that he is going to be a Free Agent next year. Do you guys think this same logic would apply to Perry or Getzlaf and we could possibly get one for slightly cheaper than market value or is the fact that Anaheim is still very high on them that it would still take a lot to get one of the two? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsAlways 486 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 We could really use a perry type on our team. Sice both fil and perry are ufas after this year the deal would be more fair and they need a 2C. Id do Fil, Franzen and 1st straight up with no prospects lost. Tatar is almost ready and theres too many guys waitig in rhe wings. We could really use a perry type on our team. Sice both fil and perry are ufas after this year the deal would be more fair and they need a 2C. Id do Fil, Franzen and 1st straight up with no prospects lost. Tatar is almost ready and theres too many guys waitig in rhe wings. If we get Perry, who with Dats fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) If we get Perry, who with Dats fight? Oh God, please no more Dats fights. I about had a f****** heartattack that game. I was already hyped up since it was the season opener, but damn did that get me going. Edited July 25, 2012 by rrasco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 If we get Perry, maybe Nick will come back so they can carpool again. Hats and octopi every day. Personally, I don't see either of them moving. They seem happy together and where they are. Their cap hits are good for what they bring to the table, and you know they'll be getting raises next year, especially Perry. I'd sure take either of them, though. That's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Both Perry and Getzlaf are great players. I would be very surprised if they didn't somehow sign extensions this season at some point but who knows. Both are pretty much pipedreams if you think either will wear the Winged Wheel. IF Ryan is still on the trading block he could still be the more realistic option but unlikely too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Do you guys honestly believe, both will re-sign with only a small raise? I think you are looking at north of 7 million for each one and something like 10 years +, do the Ducks have that money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 26, 2012 It'll be interesting to see what happens, for sure. It's basically the Holy Trinity of 21st-century power-forwards - and they're all on the same team! I can't imagine The Hockey Gods won't break it up, this being an age of parity and all. Should we somehow manage to acquire Ryan, we might have a real shot at inking Perry and/or Getzlaf next summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted July 26, 2012 This comment was pretty straight forward. If you didn't understand what he was trying to say you either A) have comprehension problems, or B) are trying to be difficult. We all know why Nash went Eash, same situation applies here...not really that difficult of a concept to understand. Carter could of been considered a big name and he went to a West Coast team where he played a key role in their playoff success and Cup. It wasn't like LA was a top seed either, they could of been easily bumped. Now, ANA is a different story I suppose as the history of them meeting the Wings in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
