Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 It will be revieled long before the post season. Dats, Z & Kronwall won't be able to do it on their own & unless they can find a way to address the D Howard is in for a rough season. Look me up in December, if I am wrong I will be happy & will send you a gift card to buy lunch. There's a lot of capable difference makers on this team (Flip, Mule, Helm, even Quincey can put up .4 points per game) and some wild cards that could prove very useful (Nyquist, Brunner, Smith, even Tatar). Point is, add all the help stated there to Dats, Z and Kronwall, you have a Wings team that has potential to be as good as any other team in the league. Vancouver's 2nd line is not that great, nor are the Sharks, Preds lost depth, Chicago has 2 really good lines and then it falls off considerably after that....the Kings weren't supposed to win the cup last year with Kopitar, Brown, Doughty and a bunch of role players, but they did it. People also seem to forget it's only been 4 years since the Wings won the cup, before that it was 6. As far as i'm concerned, we're only 2 years away from the next batch of Wings to win the cup and silence the D bag critics once again. For lunch, i would like chicken fingers and a poutine please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 8, 2012 The Wings need GOAL SCORING and TOUGHNESS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Id take heatley if we could get him for a decent price. Edit: altho with what minny supposedly counter offered, a decent price isn't going to happen Edited August 8, 2012 by amato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 The Wings need GOAL SCORING and TOUGHNESS. Then don't suggest trading Tootoo, our only tough player! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 8, 2012 Then don't suggest trading Tootoo, our only tough player! esteef You think Tootoo is tough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 You think Tootoo is tough? Do we have anyone tougher? esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 Then don't suggest trading Tootoo, our only tough player! esteef Wrong. You think Tootoo is tough? Wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YougotDatsyuked 24 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 If Holland signed Carkner axe would say he isn't tough either. He just likes to pop in every thread and write negative posts unless it's about Emmerton. The one guy everyone has a right to say his future isn't bright with the wings... 2 Z Winged Dangler and number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedWingsDad Report post Posted August 8, 2012 If we are defining tough as willingness to check, scrap, and chirp.... Tootoo is the toughest guy on our team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 If we are defining tough as willingness to check, scrap, and chirp.... Tootoo is the toughest guy on our team. Agree. Until Big E and Abby actually win a fight or Bert lands a meaningful punch, Toots is the guy. esteef 1 pondrocket reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 8, 2012 Agree. Until Big E and Abby actually win a fight or Bert lands a meaningful punch, Toots is the guy. esteef Spot on. Tootoo is our toughest guy. He is not tough, though. Kocur was tough. Probert was tough. Id put Tootoo on a toughness level of Dino, but without the offensive punch. 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 Spot on. Tootoo is our toughest guy. He is not tough, though. Kocur was tough. Probert was tough. Id put Tootoo on a toughness level of Dino, but without the offensive punch. No one will ever be Kocur or Probert, and it's foolish to compare. Tootoo is damn tough, he just isn't big. He's got the heart of a lion and he's gonna surprise alot of Wings fans this season. Mark my words. 1 pondrocket reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsTalkCarbs 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 abdelkader is plenty tough as well, could easily see a line of him tootoo and bertuzzi put out there if there's ever a time when a message/ stand needs to be taken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted August 8, 2012 No one will ever be Kocur or Probert, and it's foolish to compare. Tootoo is damn tough, he just isn't big. He's got the heart of a lion and he's gonna surprise alot of Wings fans this season. Mark my words. I agree. If your definition of toughness is exclusively in the realm of Probert and Kocur, then there are only six or seven guys in the history of the NHL that can be categorized as tough. Tootoo knows how to give and take real haymakers, throws his body around chaotically and drives into people like a freight train. On top of all of that, he is comfortable with actually playing hockey, and can be known to contribute as well. I'm looking forward to seeing this guy play, and I agree that he will surprise a lot of Wings' fans as well. 3 Z Winged Dangler, Nightfall and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted August 9, 2012 I love the Tootoo signing. He'll crash, he'll bang, he's pester, he'll piss off. He'll stand up for his team mates. He'll fight. How many other guys like that do we have? 1 pondrocket reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 9, 2012 I love the Tootoo signing. He'll crash, he'll bang, he's pester, he'll piss off. He'll stand up for his team mates. He'll fight. How many other guys like that do we have? None. I like Tootoo, but the Wings could use a jaw breaker. Tootoo just has heart. 1 pondrocket reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,206 Report post Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Tootoo has more than heart. He's a tough customer, very hard hitter. "Yeah, but if only he were a jawbreaker." Really? Come on, yo. Edited August 10, 2012 by Dabura 2 number9 and pondrocket reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 9, 2012 Im just saying teams dont fear him and will still run our guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 10, 2012 Im just saying teams dont fear him and will still run our guys. Maybe we should trade for a Vancouver Canuck that will stick up for teammates by biting dudes...? Maybe then they'll think twice about running our guys. Doesn't matter who you sign, there's always an idiot out there that'll run your guys no matter what team. Any guess as to why? Cause the instigator is there to make sure little punks don't get destroyed by angry motherf***ers that can police the game better than refs. Tootoo will be more effective when the NHL gets some balls and cans the instigator and returns respect to the game amongst players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,492 Report post Posted August 10, 2012 Which guys get run at and how often do they miss time with injuries sustained by getting run at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted August 10, 2012 Im just saying teams dont fear him and will still run our guys. I don't want to derail this thread (too much) but I don't think it matters who is iced if you're looking to prevent guys from getting run. The goons in the NHL are all high testosterone competitors and won't back down even if there is a tough guy out there wearing an opponent's jersey. I've seen Yzerman get run plenty of times while we had Probert and Kocur. Yes fights occurred afterward, but star players still took their licks. Then there are smaller guys who run players looking for someone to drop the gloves so they get a power play out of it via the instigator. Tootoo gives us chaos, and people will focus on him when he's out there, and not so much the game itself. He (much like any other NHLer) won't prevent Datsyuk or Zetterberg from taking a cheap shot, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 10, 2012 Zetterberg got slammed and no retribution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted August 11, 2012 Zetterberg got slammed and no retribution. ...okay? I'm failing to see your point, if there is one. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted August 11, 2012 ...okay? I'm failing to see your point, if there is one. We need a tough guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,492 Report post Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) Zetterberg got slammed and no retribution. There was retribution. Bertuzzi fought Weber, he didn't win but he fought him. Winning against Weber is no easy task but he did have to account for it. So to say that there was no retribution is silly. Unless you think we should have run at some of their guys too? Also: Zetterberg didn't "get run", and he missed zero minutes of zero games due to the obviously vicious nature of the attack. Edited August 12, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
