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#21 egroen

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 01:47 AM

It's hard to imagine Brunner showing even half of what I am hoping to see from Nyquist - I just think Nyquist has the chops to be a first line, two-way difference maker. Brunner/Swiss league is just a huge unknown variable to me (spoiled a bit by Brunnstrom/Leino in all honesty) .

I hope/believe Smith/ Nyquist have the talent to make a run at the Calder... crazy if Brunner is there too.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 03:02 AM

what gurus would that be? i have never once heard anyone say the skill level of the swiss league is ahead of the ahl.



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Posted 18 August 2012 - 03:15 AM

I don't have the link but there is a ranking of the leagues around the world. It starts with NHL noted at 100 and then khl, Sweden, finish.... Swiss league is more or less at 70. Ahl something like 55 so...only numbers but it seems that Brunner's played in a not so bad area.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:59 AM

brunner seems to be a good add to our team. he has some good hands, nice speed and a great shot. but am i the only one, who sees a little issue in his skating abilities? i hope im not right, but he might look like a concussion candidate too...

by the way. take a look at the stats, joe thornton and rick nash had in the swiss league in the lockout 04/05 comparing to damien...
2004/05 HC Davos-Swiss Games-40 Goals-10 Assist-44 Points-54
PIM-80 (Thornton)
2004/05 HC Davos-Swiss Games-44 Goals-26 Assist-20 Points-46 PIM-83 (Nash)

2010/11 EV Zug Games-45 Goals-24 Assist-36 Points-60 PIM (?) (Brunner)

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:38 PM

brunner seems to be a good add to our team. he has some good hands, nice speed and a great shot. but am i the only one, who sees a little issue in his skating abilities? i hope im not right, but he might look like a concussion candidate too...

by the way. take a look at the stats, joe thornton and rick nash had in the swiss league in the lockout 04/05 comparing to damien...
2004/05 HC Davos-Swiss Games-40 Goals-10 Assist-44 Points-54
PIM-80 (Thornton)
2004/05 HC Davos-Swiss Games-44 Goals-26 Assist-20 Points-46 PIM-83 (Nash)

2010/11 EV Zug Games-45 Goals-24 Assist-36 Points-60 PIM (?) (Brunner)


He'll definitely have to stop cutting into the middle of the ice like he seems to do, play a little more north-south hockey, but I don't really think he'll have too much trouble adapting. With his speed, skating ability, and wrister he'll have all the chances he wants, even without his nifty toe drags.

Edited by kipwinger, 18 August 2012 - 05:39 PM.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:24 AM

It would be great if they both played amazing and displaced Franzen's lazy ass from the top 6 and made him expendable. Thats my dream.

The REAL question is: what number do you think Brunner should wear? 96 belongs to homer whether or not he plays. its just too soon to recirculate #96. Id like to see him in 88, i think it would look cool.

My dream is that we get rid of our top goal scorer who also happens to be one of the biggest forwards on a team that lacks size because I hate him for no good reason and perceive him to be lazy because if he wasn't he would easily score twice as many goals as he does. We can give Brunner 93

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:10 AM

I'll be happy if they can both maintain a regular spot in the lineup theoughout the entire season. The potential is certainly there for both players, but transitioning to the NHL for a full 82 is a task in itself.

Yeah, I really don't think that's going to be an issue this season the way the CBA talks are going.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 11:26 AM

I'd agree with the idea that nyq Is a better guess because we've seen him play. Brunner is a big question mark until we see how he adjusts.

But I'd say it'll ultimately be which line each of them are on that determines who puts up more points.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 11:49 AM

The REAL question is: what number do you think Brunner should wear? 96 belongs to homer whether or not he plays. its just too soon to recirculate #96. Id like to see him in 88, i think it would look cool.


I think Brunner will wear #24 http://www.elitepros...eam.php?team=60

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:22 PM

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brunner seems to be a good add to our team. he has some good hands, nice speed and a great shot. but am i the only one, who sees a little issue in his skating abilities? i hope im not right, but he might look like a concussion candidate too...

by the way. take a look at the stats, joe thornton and rick nash had in the swiss league in the lockout 04/05 comparing to damien...
2004/05 HC Davos-Swiss Games-40 Goals-10 Assist-44 Points-54
PIM-80 (Thornton)
2004/05 HC Davos-Swiss Games-44 Goals-26 Assist-20 Points-46 PIM-83 (Nash)

2010/11 EV Zug Games-45 Goals-24 Assist-36 Points-60 PIM (?) (Brunner)

You say nice speed and then you say you have an issue with his skating. Skating is supposed to be a strength for him. What is your issue with his skating?
Nash' and Thorton's numbers in the Swiss league are similar to Brunner but so are Red Wings draft pick Petr Sykora's.
When Nash and Thorton played in Switzerland so did other NHLers making it a more competitive league than it is now, although I do think Brunner will be a star in this league because of his combination of skill, skating and grit (something that he also noted for something that Brunnstrom and Leino never were)

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:29 PM

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You say nice speed and then you say you have an issue with his skating. Skating is supposed to be a strength for him. What is your issue with his skating?
Nash' and Thorton's numbers in the Swiss league are similar to Brunner but so are Red Wings draft pick Petr Sykora's.
When Nash and Thorton played in Switzerland so did other NHLers making it a more competitive league than it is now, although I do think Brunner will be a star in this league because of his combination of skill, skating and grit (something that he also noted for something that Brunnstrom and Leino never were)


I think he was referring to Brunner's tendency to tip toe around in the middle of the ice while skating. Toe dragging and cutting back and what not. His skating ability is not to be questioned, but his decision making needs to change if he doesn't want to get killed in our league.

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Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:30 PM

Gotta go with the giant f****** Q on this one.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:46 PM

Gotta go with the giant f****** Q on this one.


Nice way to put it. Denis Leary would be proud. What the heck, use that sound clip when he scores. :)
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:28 PM

nyquist is the favorite right now because we've seen him play in the nhl and he looked good. brunner... well we just gotta hope his goals translate to the nhl


I dont think they will. Hes no stamkos.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:54 PM

@ Johnz96

skating ability is not just speed alone. but that wasnt what i ment. maybe i used the wrong words. in other words... i hope he is keeping his head up when he cuts the middle.

i think his stats in the swiss league speak for him. in the lockout 04/05 just a few but not many stars from the nhl played in this league.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 05:02 PM

I choose both.

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