PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 The Wings had a goalie that was better than the defense? Has there ever been besides Sawchuk? I keep trying to think of a goalie that kept the Wings alive through out a entire season. Like a elite goalie type. I'm drawing blanks besides Dom in 02', but he had great d-man in front of him. I'm thinking that's going to be the case this year. Our goalie depth is a greater strength than our d-man depth and Jimmy H. is going to shine. 2 amato and 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 I thought Howard carried this team in the regular season last season. Our defense had big names, but he still stood on his head many nights. I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about a defense with no big names and a goalie who's a big name? Like say the Sabres with Hasek and Miller? If that's it, I can't think of the last time we had that kind of team. Then again, I don't think of Howard as an "elite" goalie. Doesn't play like it in the playoffs, and doesn't get paid like it either. He's a good goalie, but nothing more at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 If Howie is no better than our defense this season, then we are going to have issues. Now is your best chance to see it. Of course, if "this season" happens at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 As far as I can remember, the Wings have usually boasted a very good defense. I think what we're going to see this year is probably a first for most of us: a team with an average or sub-par defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted September 12, 2012 Cujo was elite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 Cujo was elite In the playoffs he was, never got a lick of support in those years. 2002-2003 Red Wings 4 0 4 0 10 120 .917 2.08 2003-2004 Red Wings 9 4 4 1 12 197 .939 1.39 Probably the best stats a goalie who never made it past the 2nd round ever had haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 12, 2012 In the playoffs he was, never got a lick of support in those years. 2002-2003 Red Wings 4 0 4 0 10 120 .917 2.08 2003-2004 Red Wings 9 4 4 1 12 197 .939 1.39 Probably the best stats a goalie who never made it past the 2nd round ever had haha. That's because the other dude's stats were always better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted September 13, 2012 if you look at other teams D corps...we have an average or slightly better than average defense. I think its very hard to not look back there and think " Holy Crap, we suck" because we have been elite for so long BUT most team, you get to the third pairing, hear their name and think " Oh hm...OR who the hell is that". we will be ok. I think the CC signing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted September 13, 2012 I think Howard will be considered elite and up for the Vezina at the end of the year. He finally has a solid back up and will shine through the regular season and carry the wings deep in the playoffs. Monster was by far our best signing this off season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 14, 2012 Are you talking about a defense with no big names and a goalie who's a big name? Like say the Sabres with Hasek and Miller? If that's it, I can't think of the last time we had that kind of team. Miller is very overrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 14, 2012 Miller is very overrated. Now. But he did carry them to the playoffs for a few years, after Drury and Briere left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Now. But he did carry them to the playoffs for a few years, after Drury and Briere left. The Sabres missed the playoffs in the two seasons after Drury and Briere left the team. He did play a very large part in the team making the playoffs in 2009-2010; this was, incidentally, the only season in which he was a Vezina candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites