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#141 Ytsejam

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 10:42 PM

...here is a list from The Hockey News annual 100 People of Power and Influence issued in January this year.
http://www.google.ca... ... aA&cad=rja


That thread is from 2006

I don't know the ins-and-outs of the cba negotiations, but do you think a shortened season would be beneficial to the wings? Around the 60 game mark last season, DET was #1 in the NHL :]

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#142 frankgrimes

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:12 PM

Sure it does. It's called the car gets repossessed, and the dealer gets to sell it again. There are ways to get out of destructive contracts, and people take them all the time. Buy more house than you can afford, and lose your job? Under your scenario, too bad, you're an indentured servant until you pay what you owe. I mean, why should the bank give you a break. You're the one who signed the contract. Noone put a gun to your head and made you get a house.


Ok my bad then should have clarified it:

Basically some owners bought the car for the full price but they knew fully well, this is not what they are willing to pay for it. They aren't asking for repossession, owners want to keep the car but not pay the demanded price for it although they've agreed to do so weeks/months.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:39 AM

That thread is from 2006

I don't know the ins-and-outs of the cba negotiations, but do you think a shortened season would be beneficial to the wings? Around the 60 game mark last season, DET was #1 in the NHL :]


i managed to dig out my hockey news people in power issue for this year and sidney crosby is listed as number 1 followed by bettman at 2 and fehr at 3.

there are only 7 owners listed in the top 100 and illitch isn't one of them

I do think a shortened season will help the wings out. less chances for them to get injured before the playoffs start

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:25 AM

football sucks


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#145 kylee

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 05:12 AM

Football is boring and douchey. There, I said it.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 05:18 AM

http://www.facebook..../boycotttheNHL/

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:12 AM

It would be nice if both sides try to make the "small groups" concept work; it can work. I guess that's the only option left.

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#148 Nightfall

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:39 AM

A great article

http://www.theglobea...article4552510/

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So you can clutch at straws and hope for the best by dismissing the events of the past 72 hours as the usual rhetoric and posturing – or you can go all Chicken Little and think the sky really is falling.
The evidence for pessimism seems far stronger, and that’s largely because Fehr has the players convinced that their givebacks during the lost season of 2004-05 mean that the onus is on the owners to compromise this time.

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#149 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:39 AM

http://www.facebook..../boycotttheNHL/

As pissed off as I am that the NHL is locked out yet again, I'm gonna come crashing back like an excited kid when the NHL resumes. If it was boycottBettman or fireBettman, i'd be 110% onboard.

They said the CBA negotiations were hard to get started during the season, but the only 4 people in all but 1 meeting have been Bettman, Daly and the Fehr's so i'm not seeing why they couldn't have had bi-weekly conference calls with the owners and PA and have the same 4 guys meet during the year. We would likely be waiting to see training camps right now and not disappointed that another lockout is here and have horse s*** facebook groups making boycott NHL groups.

How about a facebook page for bring back the NHL? I may even join that one and i have no time for facebook these days.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:01 AM

A little detail I hadn't really considered. The NHL cancels all insurance coverage on its players when they lock them out, including their families health insurance. They did it in 94 and 2004 as well.

The NHLPA is paying the players insurance premiums during the lockout.

http://espn.go.com/n...ers-nhl-lockout

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:11 AM

I do think a shortened season will help the wings out. less chances for them to get injured before the playoffs start


It's all a matter of perspective: Less time for them to heal when they do actually get hurt.

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#152 Electrophile

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:09 PM

I'm glad Nick retired when he did. If he had been planning on coming back for one more year, and he ended up missing most if not all of this season, it wouldn't have been too pretty.

As for my own feelings about hockey when it comes back.....I'll always root for the Red Wings to win, and I'll always want Wings players to succeed at their highest levels, but the league itself can suck boiled eggs. I'll post here still, but I won't watch a single game, listen to a single game, or spend even one dollar on NHL merchandise. To hell with them. It took a long time for baseball to win me back after the strike in 1994, and this is the 3rd NHL lockout that's happened in the last 20 years. There's absolutely no guarantee it won't happen again in another 5 or 6 years. I'm personally getting tired of being made to feel like my fandom doesn't matter, and that I'll just dumbly follow the league wherever it goes, no matter what it does. Sorry, you've s*** the bed for the last time.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:14 PM

All three branches (lower case "b") of the CHL begin their schedules tomorrow. If you haven't been to a game in awhile, go; I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:26 PM



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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:31 PM

Ok my bad then should have clarified it:

Basically some owners bought the car for the full price but they knew fully well, this is not what they are willing to pay for it. They aren't asking for repossession, owners want to keep the car but not pay the demanded price for it although they've agreed to do so weeks/months.

brilliant! do i have to quote you addressing offtopic a few days ago and some deleted posts or we argee there were no offtopic in both cases?... :)

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:45 PM

All three branches (lower case "b") of the CHL begin their schedules tomorrow. If you haven't been to a game in awhile, go; I don't think you'll be disappointed.

No one will EVER be disappointed going to a CHL game. Great and fun experience. Followed the Wheat Kings playoff run when they had Eric Fehr and they took out Moose Jaw with Dustin Boyd and Kenndal McCardle in the first round, Calgary Hitmen with Ryan Getzlaf and Andrew Ladd in round 2 and then in the finals they lost to the Kelowna Rockets with Shea Weber and Blake Comeau...all in all, some of the best hockey i've ever watched. missed only 1 playoff game that year and it's about 200 km each way to see a game and i don't regret doing the trips for 1 second.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:10 PM

All three branches (lower case "b") of the CHL begin their schedules tomorrow. If you haven't been to a game in awhile, go; I don't think you'll be disappointed.


I planned on it. Looks like I will be getting to see a lot more of Frk this year than I anticipated.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:36 PM

No one will EVER be disappointed going to a CHL game. Great and fun experience. Followed the Wheat Kings playoff run when they had Eric Fehr and they took out Moose Jaw with Dustin Boyd and Kenndal McCardle in the first round, Calgary Hitmen with Ryan Getzlaf and Andrew Ladd in round 2 and then in the finals they lost to the Kelowna Rockets with Shea Weber and Blake Comeau...all in all, some of the best hockey i've ever watched. missed only 1 playoff game that year and it's about 200 km each way to see a game and i don't regret doing the trips for 1 second.

Do they televise whl and ohl nation wide up there? If they do im moving over the locks and changing my flag :)

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:48 PM

NHL announces cancellation of preseason schedule through Sept. 30


NEW YORK – The National Hockey League announced today the cancellation of the 2012 preseason schedule through Sept. 30. In addition, the 2012 Kraft Hockeyville preseason game, scheduled for Oct. 3 in Belleville, Ontario, has been postponed to 2013.
The cancellation of the schedule was necessary because of the absence of a Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NHL Players’ Association and the NHL.
While the Kraft Hockeyville game has been postponed, many of the scheduled celebrations in the winning community of Stirling-Rawdon, Ontario, will proceed as planned beginning on Sept. 30.


http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=641879

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:29 PM

Anybody else think how much this probably sucks for Nail Yakupov? First year that you're probably gonna play in the NHL, people already listing your name beside Eberle, Hall, and Nugent-Hopkins and then a lockout comes and you have to postpone your dream.

 
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