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Best pure goal scorer for the Wings
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, Oct 17 2012 12:29 AM
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:02 AM
Wings need some Ryan Pulock in the 1st round, a goal scorer in the 2nd round and rounds 3-7 all guys 6'4 or bigger. Please sign Dekeyser to play with Smith. <--Dekeyser signed, Paired next year. Mark your calendars.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:55 PM
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:22 PM
IMO none of the above are classified in my definition of a "pure goal scorer" Hossa is the closest thing we've ever had. Lately I think the wings have been too focused on getting an entire team of two way players. We don't have much variety.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:48 PM
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:08 PM
It would have been interesting to see the responses had Brunner been included in the list. Personally, I'm not holding my breath on a smooth transition for him into NA style hockey, but you cannot deny that he is a pure goal-scorer based on how he is lighting it up overseas. I hear his shot is reminiscent of Brett Hull, but I haven't seen him play yet...
Brett Hull is sort of a bad comparison because Brunner doesn't really use a slap shot. His wrist shot is sick though, more comparable to Semin's shot than Hull's.
Edited by kipwinger, 20 October 2012 - 12:38 PM.
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 09:07 PM
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That was a sick goal...
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 12:21 AM
That was a sick goal...
The way he defends the puck as hes attacking is something I have never seen.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:37 AM
The way he defends the puck as hes attacking is something I have never seen.
I love how he blocks out other players' sticks with his own while deking. I've adapted that technique in my beer league but I don't make it look near as sexy.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:50 AM
Brett Hull is sort of a bad comparison because Brunner doesn't really use a slap shot. His wrist shot is sick though, more comparable to Semin's shot than Hull's.
What set Hull apart though wasn't just his shot, it was his ability find space in the slot. Just by moving 6 inches he could find the space to get a one-timer away, sometimes he would do it just by standing still. It was really noticable when he was playing with Datsyuk. Pav would be in the corner doing his thing and Brett would just wait and wait and wait and wait....knowing the puck would eventually come to him.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:28 AM
Pulkkinen, Frk, Jurco and Athanasiou just for future reference.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:47 PM
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 09:13 PM
None of the guys listed are "pure" goal scorers. That label is reserved for elite snipers like Stamkos and Hossa. Hudler was probably the closest thing we had to a goal-scorer last year, and that was mostly because he didn't do anything else very well.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:20 AM
Yeah, I voted for Datsyuk, but I absolutely hate the question in the poll. I don't know what a "pure" goal scorer means. I think that people hear that and think of a super-talented player who is singularly focused on putting points on the board. Marian Gaborik is a "pure goal scorer". So is Ovechkin. Pavel Bure and Ziggy Palffy from back in the day.
The Red Wings don't really employ guys like that, or at least they haven't recently. If you took Datsyuk's innate ability and gave him the "personality" of Ovechkin, I feel like he scores 45 goals a year, but I can't "know" that. And he'd probably be a less valuable player to his team, whether people want to believe that or not.
Nothing irks me more about (some) Wings fans that the revisionist history applied to Hossa's one year with this team. But that's a topic for a different thread.
The Red Wings don't really employ guys like that, or at least they haven't recently. If you took Datsyuk's innate ability and gave him the "personality" of Ovechkin, I feel like he scores 45 goals a year, but I can't "know" that. And he'd probably be a less valuable player to his team, whether people want to believe that or not.
Again, though, I was really surprised by how much of a two-way game Hossa actually had when he played for us. Yeah, he was a terrific goal scorer that carried the Wings at times during the 08-09 regular season, but he's also a very large, strong individual who would back check and put a body on you in the corner.None of the guys listed are "pure" goal scorers. That label is reserved for elite snipers like Stamkos and Hossa. Hudler was probably the closest thing we had to a goal-scorer last year, and that was mostly because he didn't do anything else very well.
Nothing irks me more about (some) Wings fans that the revisionist history applied to Hossa's one year with this team. But that's a topic for a different thread.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:55 PM
Nothing irks me more about (some) Wings fans that the revisionist history applied to Hossa's one year with this team. But that's a topic for a different thread.
Well said.
The late Shanahan was probly the last "pure" goalscorer we had. He could barely skate by that point, but he could still finish, and he potted 40 goals putting away Pav's feeds.
"If I can be totally honest, it's not a lot of guys you get impressed by. Actually, it's no one else but him. From the bench, to see what move he makes -- you're like, 'I wish I could do that.' Sometimes you sit on the bench and just think, 'wow,' and you look over to the other bench and they sit there and shake their heads, too. He has great, great skills. I'm probably not going to play with another player who has the kind of skills he has." Mikael Samuelsson on Pavel Datsyuk
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:22 PM
Yeah, I voted for Datsyuk, but I absolutely hate the question in the poll. I don't know what a "pure" goal scorer means. I think that people hear that and think of a super-talented player who is singularly focused on putting points on the board. Marian Gaborik is a "pure goal scorer". So is Ovechkin. Pavel Bure and Ziggy Palffy from back in the day.
The Red Wings don't really employ guys like that, or at least they haven't recently. If you took Datsyuk's innate ability and gave him the "personality" of Ovechkin, I feel like he scores 45 goals a year, but I can't "know" that. And he'd probably be a less valuable player to his team, whether people want to believe that or not.
Again, though, I was really surprised by how much of a two-way game Hossa actually had when he played for us. Yeah, he was a terrific goal scorer that carried the Wings at times during the 08-09 regular season, but he's also a very large, strong individual who would back check and put a body on you in the corner.
Nothing irks me more about (some) Wings fans that the revisionist history applied to Hossa's one year with this team. But that's a topic for a different thread.
True. I think Hossa's biggest attribute is his goal-scoring, but he does have more than just that to his game.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:06 PM
Mike Bossy was a pure goal scorer. Ray Sheppard a VERY poor man's Mike Bossy.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:44 PM
Shanahan, Hull, Fedorov come to mind.
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