Every player a UFA?
Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:59 AM
now this opens up all kinds of trouble.
small markets folding up shop, players exodus to teams to play with close friends, family, massive retirements or overseas contracts.
so to simplify my question...who stays in detroit for family...who leaves (specify reason) and who wants to play in detroit?
my first guess....
ryan miller wants in to play with brother in home state.
z , pav, kronwall, howard, helm, remain in detroit.
if 3 or more teams fold....abdelkader, bertuzzi, tootoo, emmerton out of league.
Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:19 AM
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:58 AM
"The NHL requests a declaration that, if the NHLPA's decertification or disclaimer were not deemed invalid by the NLRB, and the collective bargaining relationship between the parties were not otherwise to continue, all existing contracts between NHL players and NHL teams (known as Standard Player's Contracts or "SPCs") would be void and unenforceable," the league's filing said.
Boiling that down to the simplest terms possible, the league wants the court, in the event of a decertification or disclaimer of interest, to make it so that all player contracts are null and void. Essentially, that means every player in the NHLPA, all 700-plus, would be a free agent.
It's worth a read. If only to let you know just how badly screwed up this situation can get, if both sides keep going down the road they're going.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:34 AM
It would be an exciting occurrence though, to see how every GM and owner would react.
Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:21 AM
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:37 AM
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:59 AM
However, it'd be fun to see a mass UFA shift. So long as our guys stay.
And I think small teams would survive. There are always Wisniewski's to go for the big contracts in nice cities where they can party.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:01 AM
I like it since we would attract a lot of great UFA's and have free reign to roll another superstar team, but unfortunately it would DESTROY the smaller markets as previously said due to no one wanting to go play for a market that doesn't even have fans. This would cause some mad chaos as players would try to unite as duos and friendship lines, which in the terms of hockey, we would most likely be seeing some of the best hockey we've seen. the chemistry would be unreal and you would really see some dedication out of players because they would be playing whom they really wanted to. I think this is all a tatic, but it's a scary one
I'd love it not only would this lead to the end of a guy, who has destroyed hockey for almost 2 decades, no also the best owner in all of sports could finally ice a great team again. Sure the play it poor owners and some wellfare teams would need to relocate/fold but in the long run, this would be the best hockey ever loaded teams with great player development systems are fighting it out!
Also this would ensure, we'd never have a lockout again so sure a certain guy does fear it because it will be the long overdue nail in getting him fired and the NHL back on track.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:19 AM
I think all of the contracts on our current roster would be renewed, although there are a few players that I would prefer Kenny not giving a new contract.. Zetterberg, Franzen and Kronwall would be resigned to shorter term contracts which isn't necessarily a bad thing.. Anyway, as much as I hate Bettman, I think this would help the league immensely. Not so much the Wings because Kenny has done such a great job over the years but some of the teams that have signed players to contracts that haven't worked out..
Edited by krsmith17, 19 December 2012 - 10:21 AM.
Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:26 PM
As for this 700+ UFA thing, its scares the hell outta me. I also believe a handful of franchises would fold (Likely all the in the U.S.) which would be terrible to the league as whole, although I admit the caliber of hockey would improve.
Edited by up2here, 19 December 2012 - 12:27 PM.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:28 PM
I'm sure there would be some time period where every team has the opportunity to negotiate a new deal with every player on their current roster. Does anyone really think if this were to happen that every team would have equal opportunity to sign Crosby, Stamkos, Weber, etc.. Not a chance.. I'm sure most teams would remain the same but it would give owners / general managers the opportunity to negotiate better deals with their players..
Here's the key though...void & unenforceable. If there was a period set up for teams to negotiate with their former players, not current because that whole void & unenforceable thing, said former player would have to make that choice, similar to a player making the decision to negotiate with one team only at the start of their regular UFA period. There is no contract, exclusivity, connection, etc. from a legal standpoint.
There would be nothing, beyond loyalty maybe, to stop a Steven Stamkos or Sidney Crosby from saying thanks but no thanks on negotiating with their former team during an exclusive period, knowing that a bidding war is going to happen for them. By the same token, there would be nothing to stop an Alex Ovechkin, Geno Malkin, Ilya Kovalchuk, or god forbid a Pavel Datsyuk or Hank Zetterberg from saying no thanks to the NHL period & going back home to play. Decertification by the NHLPA & the courts voiding all contracts per the NHL's request looks pretty close to mutually assured destruction to me.
Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:37 PM
IF all 700+ players became UFA's I would hope that the new CBA would have a stipulation that the team they belong(ed) to has first crack at re-siging the players. I guess that would be a true UFA, but at least it would save some of the smaller franchises from folding....and it would keep Detroit on the map...
Edited by LeftWinger, 19 December 2012 - 01:38 PM.
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