haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 If people wish to include Twitter updates, please only include those that have actual information about the CBA process. Using tweets that comment on the NHL or NHLPA is the same as stating it yourself here in the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 John Shannon, former CBC HNIC genius, was on Rogers Sportsnet Hockey Central today and said this: the reason the League made the three-hundred page proposal available for all to see was to show that there were important issues that had now been addressed that had been raised as issues by the players; a couple of examples being health and safety issues and taking away the old "home ice advantage", i.e. making the visitors dressing a more "pleasant" place to deal with (why it has it taken this long for these types of things to be dealt with by the League, I don't know). What he also said was that the League would be shutting down operations in the schedule on three dates every season: Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and New Year's Eve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 No biggie on the Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, as those are already dominated by the NBA. New Year's Eve leaves the Wings without their traditional New Year's Eve game, which would make me a little sad. What they should do (IMO, of course) is leave New Year's Eve alone, and make the Wonter Classic the only game played on New Year's Day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 5, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Jedi" data-cid="2337668" data-time="1357352360"><p> No biggie on the Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, as those are already dominated by the NBA. New Year's Eve leaves the Wings without their traditional New Year's Eve game, which would make me a little sad. <br /> <br /> What they should do (IMO, of course) is leave New Year's Eve alone, and make the Wonter Classic the only game played on New Year's Day.</p></blockquote> Im in favor of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Yes I'm in favor of just winter classic on New year's day. Hope they get rid of AS break as well and make it christmas-NYs break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Well if they're ready to drop the puck, the thing I'm most interested in is how many fans and advertisers will be back, especially the advertisers. I'm not buying tickets or more Red Wings gear, or even wear Red Wings gear. I'll feel like a fool if I wear Wings stuff, plus I haven't worn any Wings gear since the summer. However I'll check out games on TV to see if arenas are half empty. It's similar to a car wreck on the highway, you can't turn away. I hope fans react like MLB fans reacted after the strike, but I'm not holding my breath since this is the 3rd work stoppage since 1994. A good percentage of hockey fans, are hockey fans only, and they'll be back right away. The NHL is going to have to win me back. Edit: Speaking about not turning away, I find the business of sports very interesting, plus I'm a Business Admistration College Graduate and have two small business of my own. As annoyed and pissed off I am with this League, I can't completely turn away. I'm shocked that they'd let the lockout go this far after huge growth in the sport the last 7 years, and want to see if they're smart enough to recover their losses. Until the League wins me back, I now feel like an outsider looking in with a business interest. Plus Baseball has always been my #1 sport, that's the sport I can't live without. I can honestly say, news of a CBA almost done doesn't excite me. I did miss the game, especially when there was nothing else on TV to watch, but I'm past the point now of looking forward to the season starting. Edited January 5, 2013 by Barrie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Checking out games in Columbus, Phoenix, Miami, New Jersey, Dallas will be half empty but there's no way Hockeytown will ever say no to hockey. I know many are frustrated with the league, and I can proudly say that I'm not an NHL fan, I'm just a Wings and hockey fan, so I'll be tuning in just like any other season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Honestly, I watched tons of hockey between 2001-2004. After the last lockout, I cut down a lot (not counting Wings games). I never paid attention to that correlation until recently, but I guess it did affect me somewhat. Even hardcore fans are bound to be affected somewhat. There's other stuff on TV and the internet besides hockey. I hardly even watched the Finals last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Sam Carchidi @BroadStBull Mediator apparently pulling an all-nighter to try to get #NHL negotiations back on track.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 227 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 This article nails it http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/01/04/nhl-lockout-talks-waylaid-by-anger-mistrust/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 This article nails ithttp://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/01/04/nhl-lockout-talks-waylaid-by-anger-mistrust/ Wow. That article seems COMPLETELY unbiased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chances14 227 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 They must be getting somewhere if the mediator was willing to go at it for 12 hours and then wants to meet again tomorrow morning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Eric Macramalla @EricOnSportsLaw If the NHLPA disclaims - and that can be as soon as tomorrow at 6:01 - they do so to try and get this settled in short term and save season Eric Macramalla @EricOnSportsLaw Disclaimer not done in court - Fehr sends letter to Bettman advising of disclaimer - then lawsuit can file Eric Macramalla @EricOnSportsLaw (5) If disclaim Fehr no longer leads talks - it would be lawyers negotiating on behalf of indiv players; S. Fehr as non-PA lawyer involved 2 Apparently Bettman said that the season would be canned if the disclaimer is filed, but NHLPA thinks it's just posturing. Either way tomorrow is going to be exciting. They must be getting somewhere if the mediator was willing to go at it for 12 hours and then wants to meet again tomorrow morning John Shannon @JSportsnet Mediation only works if sides feel they are close. He cannot arbitrate issues, he only creates possibilities and lines of communication John Shannon @JSportsnet Mediator Scot Beckenbaugh will meet first with the NHLPA at 10:30 am Saturday. Edited January 5, 2013 by irishock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Red Wings players head to Phoenix to practice and prepare for potential season http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130105/SPORTS0103/301050326/1128/rss16 So Pavel is in Russia, Filppula is back, Zetteberg and Brunner in Swiss, now Kronwall, Howard, and Cleary are starting to practice... Hmm, which important Wings player is missing? Edited January 5, 2013 by irishock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="irishock" data-cid="2337686" data-time="1357372338"><p> Red Wings players head to Phoenix to practice and prepare for potential season<br /> <br /> <a href='http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130105/SPORTS0103/301050326/1128/rss16'>http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130105/SPORTS0103/301050326/1128/rss16</a><br /> <br /> <br /> So Pavel is in Russia, Filppula is back, Zetteberg and Brunner in Swiss, now Kronwall, Howard, and Cleary are starting to practice... Hmm, which important Wings player is missing?</p></blockquote> Organized practice and European/KHL leagues aren't "fun" enough. That's my only guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Red Wings players head to Phoenix to practice and prepare for potential seasonhttp://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130105/SPORTS0103/301050326/1128/rss16 So Pavel is in Russia, Filppula is back, Zetteberg and Brunner in Swiss, now Kronwall, Howard, and Cleary are starting to practice... Hmm, which important Wings player is missing? I'm sure Sammy is already in perfect shape. Doesn't need to practice........=) Edited January 5, 2013 by hillbillywingsfan 2 kylee and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="irishock" data-cid="2337686" data-time="1357372338"><p> So Pavel is in Russia, Filppula is back, Zetteberg and Brunner in Swiss, now Kronwall, Howard, and Cleary are starting to practice... Hmm, which important Wings player is missing?</p></blockquote> Lidstrom 2 Rebound and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 @Real_ESPNLeBrun: And the back and forth begins again. Mediator headed to NHL office now "@aaronward_nhl: Federal Mediator has left the meeting with NHLPA." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 5, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="chances14" data-cid="2337678" data-time="1357356774"><p> This article nails it<br /> <br /> <a href='http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/01/04/nhl-lockout-talks-waylaid-by-anger-mistrust/'>http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/01/04/nhl-lockout-talks-waylaid-by-anger-mistrust/</a></p></blockquote> Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Lebrun: Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun NHL and NHLPA will meet with mediator at 1;15 pm ET Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger PA hotel is buzzing in anticipation. Down to minimal issues...but, still not done. And definition of "minimal" may differ. Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Issues still include cap in 13\14, max contract and variance. So, "minimal" may not be best word unless significant movement from both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 And here comes a rush of optimism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spongebob is a wings fan 18 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Red Wings players head to Phoenix to practice and prepare for potential seasonhttp://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130105/SPORTS0103/301050326/1128/rss16 So Pavel is in Russia, Filppula is back, Zetteberg and Brunner in Swiss, now Kronwall, Howard, and Cleary are starting to practice... Hmm, which important Wings player is missing? Franzen having too much fun doing nothing Edited January 5, 2013 by spongebob is a wings fan 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Just woke up and it sounds like the mediator has done a great job. John Shannon @JSportsnet Just landed in NYC. Told that League is in dealing making mood. Will DFehr be in same mood? Kevin Paul Dupont @GlobeKPD Keep hearing/reading sense of energy/optimism around today's CBA talks in NYC. Agent: "teams are gearing up, feels like it will be a go." Nick Kypreos @RealKyper Source "tentative deal could be done within 24 hrs or #NHLPA could serve #NHL notice to disclaim early as 2day. Present meeting is huge. Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch For the first time in months there is optimism surrounding these talks#NHL #NHLPA Michael Grange @michaelgrange Face to face session between NHLPA and #NHL came about at the suggestion of the mediator who felt things had progressed enough to meet. Josh Rimer @JoshRimerHockey Nick Kypreos on Sportsnet, "Have made tremendous strides on Key issues, still some work to be done." Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch Been cautioned there is still work to be done. Don't forget the disclaimer vote at 6:00 p.m. looms large. #NHL #NHLPA Edited January 5, 2013 by irishock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) If a deal is reached, I suggest the NHL should start the season on the 15th, with 50 games. 5 against your division (20 total), 3 against all other conference teams (30 total). HUGE: John Shannon @JSportsnet Told the pension issue was resolved a while ago. For all you Actuaries....it will be a Defined Benefits pension, funded by the players. Issues remain: 2013-14 hard cap: League at 63 mil, NHLPA at 65 mil. Variance Max contracts (NHLPA at 7, NHL at 6) Nick Cotsonika @cotsonika Seems to be more optimism on the NHL side than the PA side, which is interesting. It has been PA saying they're close, NHL saying not. Edited January 5, 2013 by irishock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites