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#281 The Axe

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

Well I'm not going to argue on what our mods told us not to, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

The mods just want us not to point fingers at the commissioner or NHLPA head.  If you have proof if any of the people involved do not care about the season being cancelled, I would like to read that.  That would be very discouraging.



#282 haroldsnepsts

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:58 PM

The mods just want us not to point fingers at the commissioner or NHLPA head.  If you have proof if any of the people involved do not care about the season being cancelled, I would like to read that.  That would be very discouraging.

The mods don't want the incessant arguing over as to who is at fault for this whole mess of a CBA negotiation, including taking little pot shots at either side during a discussion of the cba.  It has been beaten to death.  Arguing over who cares or doesn't care about canceling the season is essentially the same thing.

 

I'm fairly certain there isn't going to be any reputable source establishing people saying they do not care if the season is cancelled. 

 

As vladdy pointed out in one of her previous warnings, the discussion should be about details of the cba.  It can also include updates from reputable sources, like Dreger or Lebrun's twitter.  



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:08 PM

Per Dreger: 

 

For those asking, NHL owners will not be returning to the CBA negotiations.                    

 

To put it in context, he means today (i hope).  



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:10 PM

Don't know if this has been posted but I just read this from a poster on Hfboards:
 

"Ron McLean just stated on XM Radio NHL Channel's HNIC show that the deal is done and they are just working out minutiae now. He said this not as breaking news but as a measure to calm everyone down and to reassure listeners that there will be hockey to watch this year.

They are bringing on a parade of HNIC personalities stating that things are basically done. Jim Hughson just stated that Bettman and Fehr are standing at the finishing line and can't decide if they want to let the other guy break the ribbon."

 

Take it for what it's worth. I would like to think Mclean would be a legit source! Here's hoping!


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:18 PM

"Just heard Doug Maclean mention the towel thing again. The way I understood it was there was a 20 minute battle between both sides in earlier meetings where the PA argued that the towels used on the road weren't satisfactory and unacceptable to them.

Is there anything these sides haven't argued over during this?"


Don't know if this has been posted but I just read this from a poster on Hfboards:
  "Ron McLean just stated on XM Radio NHL Channel's HNIC show that the deal is done and they are just working out minutiae now. He said this not as breaking news but as a measure to calm everyone down and to reassure listeners that there will be hockey to watch this year.

They are bringing on a parade of HNIC personalities stating that things are basically done. Jim Hughson just stated that Bettman and Fehr are standing at the finishing line and can't decide if they want to let the other guy break the ribbon."

 

Take it for what it's worth. I would like to think Mclean would be a legit source! Here's hoping!

 

Wow really? Any one from HNIC has got to be a reliable source.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

"Just heard Doug Maclean mention the towel thing again. The way I understood it was there was a 20 minute battle between both sides in earlier meetings where the PA argued that the towels used on the road weren't satisfactory and unacceptable to them.

Is there anything these sides haven't argued over during this?"


 

Wow really? Any one from HNIC has got to be a reliable source.

Yeah that's what I read. Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not though? lol


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 04:52 PM

No I'm being real

 

 

 

 

 

Kevin Bieksa on threat NHL will kill season if no deal by next Thurs: "Deadlines have been moving, changing. They don't really mean much."

 

 

Phillips angered NHL tried to “pull the wool” over players’ eyes. | Ottawa Senators Extra http://www.senatorsextra.com/main/phillips-angered-nhl-tried-to-pull-the-wool-over-players-eyes …

 

 

Mediators have now been in meeting with the NHLPA for over 2.5 hours. #CBA #TSN

 

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris

While nothing is scheduled, there is still a chance the NHL and NHLPA meet tonight.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

Lebrun:

 

Mediator about to meet with NHL now                    


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:27 PM

NHLPA conditions for the next CBA to be 10 year. 1-option out after 7 years. 2-minimum salary at $800 000 at year 9. Still no deal on that.

 

More and more issues seem to pop up...


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:32 PM

NHLPA conditions for the next CBA to be 10 year. 1-option out after 7 years. 2-minimum salary at $800 000 at year 9. Still no deal on that.

 

More and more issues seem to pop up...

 

Honestly at this point I don't believe much of anything except for the most basic tweets about when and if they're actually meeting.  There's been so much misinformation out there as everyone tries to break news.  I'm tired from riding all the highs and lows.

 

I have a feeling it'll come out of nowhere if a deal is done or the season is cancelled. 



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:39 PM

Red Wings' Daniel Cleary cautions players to keep opinions to themselves:

 

http://blogs.windsor...-to-themselves/

 

 

 

 

“This is a very sensitive time in negotiation and it’s very important, and we don’t need any antics from anybody as far as anyone getting upset,” Cleary said.

 

 

I have a feeling it'll come out of nowhere if a deal is done or the season is cancelled. 

 

 

 

Agreed. After how no one knew about the mediator in the bargaining room until Bettman said it, no one has a clue of what's really going on. I suppose only the 10 or so players, Fehr, Bettman, rest of NHL officials know exactly what the real problems are. And I remember the 2005 NHL lockout unexpectedly ending at midnight. The 2011 NBA lockout ended at like 3 AM ET, few hours after ESPN twitter sources reported that "not much" was going on.


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#292 Playmaker

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

Yeah...just wake me when and if there's a deal...this constant up and down and back and forth and finger pointing and name calling and threats...can't take it any more...



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:46 PM

Per many reports: NHL and NHLPA may meet face to face tonight following separate meetings with a mediator today #CBA


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#294 Marty Barry

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

This feels like the NHL Draft or the very beginning of FA to me.  Kind of exciting.  But not game 7 exciting.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:55 PM

I want to know more about this towel thing.  What happened?  Or was that left field sarcasm?


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

I want to know more about this towel thing.  What happened?  Or was that left field sarcasm?

 

HFBoards guy says it wasn't sarcasm. MacLean was serious. They did argue for over 20 minutes over how the league towels were unacceptable.  Not sure if it was brought up recently or a while ago. If it was recently, then it just seems like more and more issues pile up after one another.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:00 PM

HFBoards guy says it wasn't sarcasm. MacLean was serious. They did argue for over 20 minutes over how the league towels were unacceptable.  Not sure if it was brought up recently or a while ago. If it was recently, then it just seems like more and more issues pile up after one another.

 

Like, the towels in the locker room for road teams?  Buy your ownf****** towels.


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:00 PM

HFBoards guy says it wasn't sarcasm. MacLean was serious. They did argue for over 20 minutes over how the league towels were unacceptable.  Not sure if it was brought up recently or a while ago. If it was recently, then it just seems like more and more issues pile up after one another.

And make sure that Hollywood gets a tax write-off too.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

 
 

Believed #NHLPA has already received 75% needed votes to file disclaimer to #NHL once again. As of now, no internal date has been set.

 

 

 

No shock here players have authorized - now need to seriously consider disclaiming if not close by around Monday

 

 

sounds like Monday is a key date.


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#300 Marty Barry

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

Just want to wake up and see the headline "GAME ON!".







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