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[amato]

Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) tweeted at 5:44pm - 31 Dec 12: Bettman says the league expects to work late tonight analyzing PA's counter. Would Explain his prediction am talks could conclude by noon. (https://twitter.com/...879002890133504)

[Nhurdi]

First if your not logged in when you read threads the layout is all messed up.

 

Anyway's  did anyone notice the cap is reduced to 60 million the second year. With that in mind has anyone actually checked out capgeek to see how many teams are screwed. Minnie for example has 16 players under contract for 56.9 million. They get a buyout but that could mean alot of decent players available that year around the league. Vancouver I think is worse off currently.

[The Axe]

I hate it when theres a lockout.

[Pskov Wings Fan]

First if your not logged in when you read threads the layout is all messed up.

 

Anyway's  did anyone notice the cap is reduced to 60 million the second year. With that in mind has anyone actually checked out capgeek to see how many teams are screwed. Minnie for example has 16 players under contract for 56.9 million. They get a buyout but that could mean alot of decent players available that year around the league. Vancouver I think is worse off currently.

$56.9 is the actual payroll. Cap number (according to previous CBA rules) is $51.1M.

[irishock]

Hoping to wake up tomorrow for the best news. Expecting bad news, though.

[cusimano_brothers]

The word for the day:

 

 

escrow |ˈeskrō|Law

noun a bond, deed, or other document kept in the custody of a third party, taking effect only when a specified condition has been fulfilled.

• [ usu. as modifier ] a deposit or fund held in trust or as a security: an escrow account.

• the state of being kept in custody or trust in this way: the board holds funds inescrow .

[amato]

NHL '13 has a roster update.. That's gotta be a good sign right??

[frankgrimes]

Not getting my hopes up, but it at least seems that both sides have stopped the PR crap and are finally reading the proposals.

 

Even if the lockout ends this week, it would mean at least 4 weeks till the season can start so thats at least 1.02.12

 

btw. the layout is messed up if you are not signed in

Edited by frankgrimes, 01 January 2013 - 01:24 PM.

[irishock]

Not getting my hopes up, but it at least seems that both sides have stopped the PR crap and are finally reading the proposals.

 

Even if the lockout ends this week, it would mean at least 4 weeks till the season can start so thats at least 1.02.12

 

btw. the layout is messed up if you are not signed in

 

? I'm pretty sure we're in 2013 and the Owners have Jan 19 as the deadline for season starting date

Vegas has it at Jan.7th for deal to be reached.. over/under?

[haroldsnepsts]

Dreger:

 

PA announces as of noon there will be smaller group mtngs and conf calls. Full in-person bargaining not expected to begin before 5pm.                    

[irishock]

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

More from @NHLPA source: "Still have 1 or 2 key issues plus some minor lawyer tweaks. Steve (Fehr) told me the deal is sealed before Sunday"

 

 

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

Some KEY issues settled through internal meetings; BOTH sides making concessions @NHL @NHLPA "Expect official announcement before Sunday".

 

 

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

BREAKING NEWS: Even before bargaining session, HUGE progress being done> per @NHL source LOCKOUT 95% OVER #CONFIRMED#HockeyyInsiderr @NHLPA

 

(cnt) #CBA duration 10 years, both parties can opt out after 8; all teams can buy out a player before 2013/14 season without cap impact (cnt

(cont) no salary rollback of course+ elimination of re-entry waivers + extended Christmas break for the players (3 days min). #CBA

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

Your new #CBA details (agreed upon by both parties so far): $300M make whole; 6 year max contract; $70.2M cap this season, $63.5M next (cont

 

 

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

The main conflict remains @NHLPA request for cap on escrow.@NHL hope to solve this by moving up $3.5M on salary cap for 2013/14.

 

 

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr

Update: Don Fehr just arrived at NHL offices on Avenues of America, NYC. @NHLPA

 

 

Take it for a grain of salt, it's Hockeyy insiderr

 

Then again, Eklund reported some accurate news, so who the F knows

Edited by irishock, 01 January 2013 - 03:58 PM.

[frankgrimes]

well if its not coming from the real sources I hardly care about it.

 

From my point of view I still think, both sides will need a lot more meetings before the lockout ends. I'd like to see something like

 

7 years contract length

65 m cap for the first year and go from there (up!)

UFA ...staying the same

CBA duration 8 years with both sides having an outclause

[irishock]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

NHLPA announces full committee bargaining session pushed back to 630 pm/7 pm ET range

[irishock]

Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl

Don and Steve Fehr, along with NHLPA staff have left NHL offices.#TSN

[irishock]

Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch

A league insider on talks: "While people on both sides are cautiously optimistic, a new deal is not imminent. People should not get ahead

[irishock]

Meetings still not starting? Does the league want the players to dissolve the union and lose the entire season on purpose?

NVM

 

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Update: meeting now expected to start at 9 pm ET. League needed extra time to complete its response to NHLPA counter.

 

 

They're probably searching up the dictionary to find some better metaphors

[irishock]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Hearing NHL new counter offer it has worked on last 24 hrs is comprehensive; hence the delay this evening putting finishing touches on it

 

 

We're 27 hours away from the NHLPA's deadline to file a disclaimer of interest...

Edited by irishock, 01 January 2013 - 08:53 PM.

[irishock]

Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl

NHL and NHLPA meeting is under way in the NHL's midtown office.

 

 

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris

NHL talks: Revenue sharing is said to be extremely close to done. An issue has cropped up on the pension front, which was previously close.

Edited by irishock, 01 January 2013 - 09:04 PM.

[irishock]

Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS

The NHL put a counter-offer on the table. 2 possibilities tonight. NHLPA meet internally after to revise it. Or they negotiate for few hours

[irishock]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Don Fehr just spoke. Says NHL made a counter. NHLPA will look at it internally and both sides will meet again tomorrow at some point