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#161 irishock

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

Fehr; "They did make a comprehensive response to what we gave them yesterday."

 

gotta be good news.


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

the fact that neither side is whining/pouting to the press is a good sign



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Posted 01 January 2013 - 11:40 PM

Although it hasn't been brought up in negotiations both #NHL#NHLPA have had internal discussions on 4 more teams qualifying for playoffs

 

doubt it goes through.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:20 AM

Although it hasn't been brought up in negotiations both #NHL#NHLPA have had internal discussions on 4 more teams qualifying for playoffs

 

doubt it goes through.

That would be terrible, some please explain a scenario in which an extra 4 teams in the playoffs even works out. 2 extra teams in each conference works out to 10 teams, so eliminate half after first round, that's 5 teams left, what do you do with the extra team? 4 extra teams per conference is 12 teams which means it will go down to 6 teams then 3, again what do you do with the extra team?



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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:09 AM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Euro_Twins" data-cid="2337268" data-time="1357104028"><p>
That would be terrible, some please explain a scenario in which an extra 4 teams in the playoffs even works out. 2 extra teams in each conference works out to 10 teams, so eliminate half after first round, that's 5 teams left, what do you do with the extra team? 4 extra teams per conference is 12 teams which means it will go down to 6 teams then 3, again what do you do with the extra team?</p></blockquote>



Byes for the top 6 seeds in each conference. 3 game series to start between the other 4 teams for the last 2 spots. Then play on as usual.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:21 AM

I'd have it at 6 teams making the playoffs from each side honestly. NFL style. 


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:08 AM

Kypreos says NHLPA wants 7 year max. contract, NHL stuck at 6. 


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:21 AM

Kypreos says NHLPA wants 7 year max. contract, NHL stuck at 6. 

They should meet in the middle and go 6 and a half



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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:08 AM

Disclaimer of interest expires at midnight... I don't see the season being saved if the players do it. It worked in the NBA and NFL but the NHL is a new breed.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:21 AM

If they're smart, they'll do it.

 

Unfortunately, we know that is a pretty tough sell. 


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

A disclaimer of interest will only be filed if the NHLPA believes that progress isn't being made.  With progress being made recently, they won't file now.  Now if the discussion goes off the rails, then expect that to happen.  If the NHLPA does file for disclaimer of interest, then the season will probably be lost as this will be tossed into the courts.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

More teams in the playoffs?  Over half the league already makes it in.  I'd rather reduce the teams in the playoffs.  Otherwise, what's the point of the regular season?


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

Although it hasn't been brought up in negotiations both #NHL#NHLPA have had internal discussions on 4 more teams qualifying for playoffs

 

doubt it goes through.

 

Oh, hey. Parity. Awesome.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

Please not more teams in the playoffs. They have already watered down the best event in sports with forced parity.
 
 
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:27 PM

I am confused by the apparent lack of discussion on fixing the conferences / divisions. I liked the 4 conference system proposed by the NHL... I wonder if they are not opening that can of worms for fear of further complication? I am hoping it get's addressed soon... would love to see Detroit west less.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:37 PM

More teams in the playoffs?  Over half the league already makes it in.  I'd rather reduce the teams in the playoffs.  Otherwise, what's the point of the regular season?

Agreed.  

 

I understand the owners wanting more teams in the playoffs because it would make them more money, but it'd be almost as bad as the 80s when all but 5 teams made the playoffs. 



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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:40 PM

Please not more teams in the playoffs. They have already watered down the best event in sports with forced parity.

Players are bigger, faster, stronger and better than they ever were. There is a much bigger talent pool to select from now than there ever was and the science of nutrition and training has advanced so much.The weakest teams today would easily beat the best teams from 2 decades ago.
But despite the fact that the teams are much more talented now, I would have to agree with your statement.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

Kypreos says NHLPA wants 7 year max. contract, NHL stuck at 6. 

See this is what pisses me off...

 

It's 1 year - the players (read Fehr) should be smart, and bite their tongue, and accept it...

 

It's this insistence on something by the players is eventually gonna upset the owners - only for them to walk away...These players have gotta remember 1 very simple fact - the owners make their fair share of $$$ outside of hockey; unlike the players they're not getting desperate  for a paycheck.

 

EDIT - If there's no agreement within the next few days - just keep the NHL'ers locked-out, and bring in the AHL'ers as replacements (I know it wouldn't happen - labor laws and such)...In all seriousness - how many current players in the AHL have any chance of landing a full-time NHL job (top 6 forward/top 4 Dman/starting goalie)?

 

IMHO the AHL'ers owe their overpaid brethern nothing, and they would probably be more than happy to don the sweater of their respective NHL franchise...Hell - the Toronto Maple Leafs just might have a shot at the Cup.


Edited by F.Michael, 02 January 2013 - 01:27 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

What's this, what's this...two added rounds of playoffs? Uncle Gary has had dreams in his onesie about this for a long, long time. Right after three lockouts and team failures in the wrong markets, he would love to be remembered for this. Payment for 30-0 is simple: more revenue for the League and none for the players.

Next up: twenty-game schedule, thirty teams in the playoffs (pending further expansion).


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

What's this, what's this...two added rounds of playoffs? Uncle Gary has had dreams in his onesie about this for a long, long time. Right after three lockouts and team failures in the wrong markets, he would love to be remembered for this. Payment for 30-0 is simple: more revenue for the League and none for the players.
Next up: twenty-game schedule, thirty teams in the playoffs (pending further expansion).
The comments I've seen on the proposal hint that the extra "round" would be a play in game or shortened play-in series (best of 3) for the bottom two qualifiers. The winner of the play-in then would take on the #1 seed.

Edit: So in essence, they're taking the new wild card format from Major League Baseball.

Edited by ogreslayer, 02 January 2013 - 02:28 PM.






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