Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted January 2, 2013 Maybe...maybe not. I don't think so though. Hasn't stopped players from taking head shots. Hasn't stopped players from leaving their feet on hits. Hasn't stopped serious boarding infractions. BTW....still does nothing to get the call right on the spot. I believe in any officiating the ultimate goal has to be to get the call right at that time at least the NFL believes so as they will take as much time needed for refs to get the call right before play proceeds. Is it perfect, no, but it's a lot better than it was without on-field video review. Getting the call right at that time is the key. How is a post game video or player penalty any conciliation to a team that just lost a playoff series due to this?? "Don't worry guys...we're sending a video to the league about that dive....so hopefully the player will get a suspension or fine...season over and have a great summer!". Ask any player this question..."Game 7 of a playoff series, late in the third period, the game is tied....would you risk a one/two game suspension to get a two minute power play?" I bet every player say Yes!Also, do you know how many "videos" the league office would get daily....OMG, every team would send multiple videos of the other teams players for even the slightest of questionable embellishments for every game in hopes that they actually may get an opposing player penalized which could be a future advantage ("squeaky wheel gets the grease"). Also, I think goalies are the biggest violators embellishment of contact....this has been accepted for years...why no outrage on this (kind of like punters in the NFL). I agree with you but the NHL has long ago put an emphasis on shortening the time it takes to play a game. I think getting all the calls right whatever the means should be a priority but if they used video replay to get all the calls right would extend the running time of a game considerably. If it were up to me, I would do it regardless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 2, 2013 Tootoo isnt scaring anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted January 2, 2013 Tootoo isnt scaring anyone. Tell him that....i betcha he proves you wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nosyt612 103 Report post Posted January 2, 2013 I think one of the biggest problems with it is almost every diving call is paired up with the opposing teams original call wether it be tripping or something else. And maybe only one in 20 dives ever get called, so its virtually a risk free exercise, most likely you're going to receive a power play but at worse it'll be 4 on 4. They should change it so that even if there is an original penalty that should be called the dive negates it, or change diving to a double minor so the other team still gets a power play after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedWingsDad Report post Posted January 2, 2013 I think one of the biggest problems with it is almost every diving call is paired up with the opposing teams original call wether it be tripping or something else. And maybe only one in 20 dives ever get called, so its virtually a risk free exercise, most likely you're going to receive a power play but at worse it'll be 4 on 4. They should change it so that even if there is an original penalty that should be called the dive negates it, or change diving to a double minor so the other team still gets a power play after. This. Make it hurt your team to dive and watch it mostly vanish from the game over night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted January 2, 2013 This. Make it hurt your team to dive and watch it mostly vanish from the game over night. But the problem with that is that it is hard to determine if a dive is actually dive without replays. Ideally all questionable calls should be reviewed but the NHL believes that would take too much time. If they are unwilling to review them during the game then they should be reviewed after and divers should be punished severely (suspensions) to prevent them from doing it again (or as much) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,520 Report post Posted January 2, 2013 Tootoo isnt scaring anyone. I agree, he's not intimidating. But he's dirty enough to make people pay for weak s*** like diving. Nobody was scared of Chelios either but you didn't get anything free when that guy was on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 3, 2013 Good point. I just hunger for the Kocur type of problem solving. Id rather have a jaw breaker than a cheapshot taker/knee on knee specialist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,520 Report post Posted January 3, 2013 I love watching this and then remembering Kessler's interview about how Kronwall needs to answer the bell when he hits guys. Obviously he's very concerned with playing old time hockey. What a clown! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,950 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 Start calling the diving. period. They rarely call it in todays game, yet when they do, they ALWAYS call the other guy for an infraction as well. What good is it calling a dive, when it just makes the teams even strength anyhow? Call the dive when its a dive, do not call any other penalty. Start calling these dive's and making the team short handed, maybe it will stop....or if yoiu have to call the other guy for something, give the diver a double minor... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,950 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) at :26 it looks like the LA King is telling Kesler to sit in the box so he can jack off instead of play hockey, since it's obvious Kesler isn't here to play hockey. Am I the only one that is embarassed to call Kelser a MIchigan native? Edited January 4, 2013 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 at :26 it looks like the LA King is telling Kesler to sit in the box so he can jack off instead of play hockey, since it's obvious Kesler isn't here to play hockey. Am I the only one that is embarassed to call Kelser a MIchigan native? That's Doughty. I used to like Kesler a few seasons ago and hoped he'd straighten out the antics as he got older. Unfortunately in Vancouver he's gone the wrong way. Maybe if he ever got on a team without that climate of diving he'd straighten up. There's a lot to like about his game otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 4, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="haroldsnepsts" data-cid="2337583" data-time="1357318894"><p> <br /> That's Doughty. <br /> <br /> I used to like Kesler a few seasons ago and hoped he'd straighten out the antics as he got older. Unfortunately in Vancouver he's gone the wrong way. Maybe if he ever got on a team without that climate of diving he'd straighten up. There's a lot to like about his game otherwise. </p></blockquote> The Kings do clutch and grab a lot, but thats how bettman wants it. Get used to it, or go home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 Start calling the diving. period. They rarely call it in todays game, yet when they do, they ALWAYS call the other guy for an infraction as well. What good is it calling a dive, when it just makes the teams even strength anyhow? Call the dive when its a dive, do not call any other penalty. Start calling these dive's and making the team short handed, maybe it will stop....or if yoiu have to call the other guy for something, give the diver a double minor... I can see where the other team needs to be penalized if there was an actual foul and the diver embellished it. I like the double minor idea. Sure, the other guy gets called, but you get back twice what you gave. Serves you right. That said, I can see this opening a can of worms regarding refs and favoritism since what constitutes embellishment is sometimes a judgment call. I'm thinking of cases where one person might clap their hand to their mouth and check for blood after a whiff of air whereas another person might spit out the lost teeth and play on. Who's to say that the first is embellishing (unless they're also writing their acceptance speech whilst pretending to hold an Oscar)? It might just be a natural reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted January 4, 2013 What if after a game video is reviewed and a diving incident that was not called in the game was enforced at the beginning of the team's next game. The team's next game would start with a pk. Not fair? Out in left field? What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted January 5, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Marty Barry" data-cid="2337638" data-time="1357341562"><p> What if after a game video is reviewed and a diving incident that was not called in the game was enforced at the beginning of the team's next game. The team's next game would start with a pk. Not fair? Out in left field? What?</p></blockquote> Yah, this isnt a good idea. I like the double minor for diving/embellishment idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
