NHL, NHLPA reach tentative agreement on new CBA

[St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422]

Definitely need a lines thread ASAP.

[ogreslayer 1,069]

We are going to need a lineup refresher thread pretty quick...my 33 year old memory can't remember who plays where anymore.. I was just looking at our D and it's weird not to see # 5 back there but I have this good feeling that the group of guys we have back there could be pretty servicable.

Hurry, somebody wake up Blueadams right now. We need 10 line combo threads....stat!

Have to wonder what a truncated training camp's going to do for the young forwards i.e. Brunner, Nyquist, Mursak, & Emmerton (maybe throw Tatar on that list too) and whether they'll get a fair shake at breaking the lineup coming out of camp or if Babs decides to stick with more seasoned NHL vets. I actually wouldn't be too shocked to see Nyquist remain in GR. Also wonder if Homer calls up Kenny wanting another go given the shortened season. All will be answered soon enough now I guess.

[wingsgirl001 983]

sooo... this is officially a deal now? We're gonna have what... two-three months of hockey before the playoffs? Should be interesting.

I'm happy but not as excited as I thought I would be. I'm mostly still pissed that we missed the Winter Classic. We better get it again next year then since we got screwed.

Edited January 6, 2013 by wingsgirl001

[puckbags 863]

Babs on TSN right now..sounds excited but skeptical.

[luvmnger 125]

the biggest thing i was worried about....no season would have put brunner on the free market.

the biggest fear about there being a season....no lidas / disco stu.

here we go!

[chances14 227]

Can someone explain this a little....

"The upper limit on the salary cap in the first year is $60 million, but teams can spend up to $70.2 million (all pro-rated)."

If the cap's 60 and they can spend up to 70.2.. what's the 10.2 mill for? buying out players? or can they go over the cap that much for the whole year? or...?

how i understand it is that it's basically a one year exception so teams have some time to get down to the cap for next year. so for all pretense and purposes, the cap is $70.2 million for this season. i may be wrong but i think that's how it works

at the end of the this season, teams have the option of buying out 2 players over the next 2 offseasons with their salary being wiped off of the cap.if i was franzen, i would working my ass off this season if he wants to stay with the wings. gotta imagine he is one of the leading candidates to get bought out this upcoming offseason

[drumnj 459]

Soooo sleepy.....I'm telling you we lost countless hours of beauty sleep over this.

[dats13owns 157]

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We are going to need a lineup refresher thread pretty quick...my 33 year old memory can't remember who plays where anymore.. I was just looking at our D and it's weird not to see # 5 back there but I have this good feeling that the group of guys we have back there could be pretty servicable.</p></blockquote>

I'm pretty sure that BlueAdams will be here in no time with line threads including amnesties and any other new changes that will come about w/ the new CBA.

That said, I was as pissed as the next person but I'm elated that this is finally happening. No way is the league going to survive another lost full season. At least we get 50ish games and can watch the Winter Classic in 2014.

[Jedi 1,865]

Wait a second.

Does this mean we actually get to discuss HOCKEY now, instead of who's fault the lockout/economic situation is? I'm confused.

[ogreslayer 1,069]

how i understand it is that it's basically a one year exception so teams have some time to get down to the cap for next year. so for all pretense and purposes, the cap is $70.2 million for this season. i may be wrong but i think that's how it works

at the end of the this season, teams have the option of buying out 2 players over the next 2 offseasons with their salary being wiped off of the cap.if i was franzen, i would working my ass off this season if he wants to stay with the wings. gotta imagine he is one of the leading candidates to get bought out this upcoming offseason

Given where the Wings are cap-wise for 2013-14 & the amount of young forwards they have ready to contribute, I doubt Kenny uses either of his 2 buy-outs. The bigger question is which UFAs/RFAs come back.

FA's in 2013-14:

Filppula (UFA)

Cleary (UFA)

Brunner (UFA)

Nyquist (RFA)

Miller (UFA)

Mursak (RFA)

White (UFA)

Kindl (RFA)

Smith (RFA)

Howard (UFA)

Edit: Who I think will be back in bold

Edited January 6, 2013 by ogreslayer

[Nev 1,085]

Finding it very hard to get excited right now....

Just out of curiosity, have the players gained anything out of this apart from a reduction in Free Agency age from 27/28 to 25/26? Everything else seems to be pretty much damage limitation. Looks like a decisive win for Bettman from here.

[amato 3,210]

[chances14 227]

Given where the Wings are cap-wise for 2013-14 & the amount of young forwards they have ready to contribute, I doubt Kenny uses either of his 2 buy-outs. The bigger question is which UFAs/RFAs come back.

FA's in 2013-14:

Filppula (UFA)

Cleary (UFA)

Brunner (UFA)

Nyquist (RFA)

Miller (UFA)

Mursak (RFA)

White (UFA)

Kindl (RFA)

Smith (RFA)

Howard (UFA)

it depends on how well franzen performs imo. if the rumors about holland offering franzen in a trade for rick nash are true, i think he will be willing to buy him out if he doesn't perform. holland would be dumb to pass up the opportunity to get rid of albatross long term contract without any repercussions on a guy who has played like he mentally checked out 2 years ago

Edited January 6, 2013 by chances14

[Nightfall 871]

Wait a second.

Does this mean we actually get to discuss HOCKEY now, instead of who's fault the lockout/economic situation is? I'm confused.

Negative.

This is now the point where we discuss how everyone on the team except Dats and Zetterberg suck and should be traded, bought out, or cut from the team. This is also the point where we discuss how Kenny and the management of the Wings suck a big one and where Detroit is not a destination for free agents because of the aging and out of touch management.

Hockey is only seriously discussed in about 25% of the threads here.

You are right that now we stop discussing who's fault it is.

[Rivalred 630]

Possibly a 2nd media buzz regarding obtaining more free agents?

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

I'm pleasantly surprised. Still curious to see what the fan reaction will be.

Time to be pessimistic (realistic) again. We'll have a hard time making the playoffs and/or getting out of the first round.

[frankgrimes 1,836]

Bring back Pasha asap.

Wow thats a really good deal for both sides but why not SOME weeks before?

Sent from my BlackBerry

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Glad it's over, mostly because now I can stop policing the lockout thread.

Honestly I am glad it's over, but this half-season will have a strong stench on it. A part of me would've been willing to do without hockey for the season if it meant a good housecleaning all around on the NHL and NHLPA leadership.

Right now I'm still bitter and hoping fans stay away for a while and it really hurts a couple franchises. There's still not nearly enough revenue sharing, but I guess the silver lining is we won't have to do this again for 8-10 years instead of 7.

And as is often the case with a short training camp, get ready for a lot of pulled groins those first few weeks.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

[Xitium 272]

I'm stunned. I never thought they would pull it off.

I wonder if the 'NHL Center Ice for free' rumor will come true.

[St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422]

NHL Center Ice should be free for this season. Would be a nice thing for the fans but I highly doubt it happens.

[amato 3,210]

NHL Center Ice should be free for this season. Would be a nice thing for the fans but I highly doubt it happens.

if there's one thing i've learned through all of this, it's that the NHL doesn't care about the fans.... so i don't see that happening.

[St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422]

if there's one thing i've learned through all of this, it's that the NHL doesn't care about the fans.... so i don't see that happening.

Yes I agree totally.

[Guest irishock]

I'm stunned. I never thought they would pull it off.

I wonder if the 'NHL Center Ice for free' rumor will come true.

I still am stunned. Last night was just a nightmare roller-coaster. Every single reporter said "deal unlikely", "meetings slow, little progress", and then the meetings never seemed to end. Then all the cautious optimism became legit optimism at around 3-4 AM when we realized that there must be significant progress going on. BAM, everybody tweets: deal done. HFBoards absolutely explodes.

They've done some damage but in the end the owners have come to their senses and made their fair share of compromises after the players were giving the entire time.

[rrasco 1,312]

I stopped following it last night because they said thats how it works. All night with 'no' or 'little' progress and then, bam, deal done.

I was confident they would get it done, but I'm still speechless.