kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 SubbanVolchenkov Ellerby I like Volchenkov, and Ellerby. Subban, I could take or leave. He's a good player and all, but I'm not worried about our defensemen scoring, I'm worried about physical/shutdown play, and the PK. Volchenkov for sure. Or maybe Robyn Regehr. That guy's a beast too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruiser008 37 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Wings need to look harder. Our D is atrocious right now... like 1980s bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Yea, I'm on the Volchenkov bandwagon. Get it done Kenny. We need some defensive depth with all these injuries. I want Holland to make a move to make us better not bide time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 I think the looking needs to hit desperation levels now. An already thin defense is depleted. Volchenkov would be excellent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Any chance Kenny can throw some big money at Dan DeKeyser to get him to leave Western now? He couldn't look any worse than Quincey has been on the 2nd pairing could he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Here’s a fun game. Write down a list of defensemen that could be had for Nyquist and a 1st round pick. Remember, Detroit’s first round pick this year might be a top 10 through 15 pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2013 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Yea, I'm on the Volchenkov bandwagon. Get it done Kenny. We need some defensive depth with all these injuries. I want Holland to make a move to make us better not bide time. ken hollan d was on the radio today and said his just fine with the d he feels they are good and will improve and doesnt see any reason to doubt them so that there states there wont be any moves i think we al need to accept that this is what we are going to get sadly because either he is to affaid to move anyone or just lazy Edited January 22, 2013 by sjr2013 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 I like Volchenkov, and Ellerby. Subban, I could take or leave. He's a good player and all, but I'm not worried about our defensemen scoring, I'm worried about physical/shutdown play, and the PK. Volchenkov for sure. Or maybe Robyn Regehr. That guy's a beast too. I recommended Regehr awhile back. Crymson yelled at me and I cried and I have not spoken of the matter since then. I share your concerns. We need an ass-kicker. We need a down-shutter. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 ken hollan d was on the radio today and said his just fine with the d he feels they are good and will improve and doesnt see any reason to doubt them so that there states there wont be any moves i think we al need to accept that this is what we are going to get sadly because either he is to affaid to move anyone or just lazy Called posturing, he's not going to come right now and say we need defensive help, because that would only hurt him when he talks to other teams. I think he's hand will be forced with the injuries. On another note, keep in mind we'll probably have to overpay significantly to get a top 4 defensive guy. They seem to be rare these days, and if Quincey was had for a first rounder you can imagine what a player like Volchenkov will demand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Called posturing, he's not going to come right now and say we need defensive help, because that would only hurt him when he talks to other teams. I think he's hand will be forced with the injuries.On another note, keep in mind we'll probably have to overpay significantly to get a top 4 defensive guy. They seem to be rare these days, and if Quincey was had for a first rounder you can imagine what a player like Volchenkov will demand. I really don't think we would have to "overpay" for a top four. We got Brad Stuart for a 2nd and a 4th round pick wasn't it? The thing that makes defensemen expensive is if they score a lot of points. Get a big bodied, shut down, defenseman like Stuart was and they come fairly cheap because they rarely score. Edited January 22, 2013 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaCkaveli20 275 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Apparently we're working on signing someone. http://www.freep.com/article/20130122/SPORTS05/130122030/1053/sports05?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FreepDetroitRedWings+%28freep.com+%7C+Detroit+Red+Wings%29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Holland's been on the phone for the past two hours trying to get a "veteran defenseman" for tonight's game against Dallas. I'm calling it. It's Lilja. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Garbage in, garbage out. If it's a veteran free agent who isn't currently signed with anyone, then there's probably a reason for that. Need to make a trade and bring someone in that's worth a damn. Haha, just thought of something. It's probably Mike F'king Commodore. In this case "veteran" better mean a 29-32 year old and not a 36-38 year old or I'm going to be pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 So could the wings do ok with 2 trains on the team? Toots and Pain train!?!? hahahahaha I have a sick feeling it's going to be lilja. Karen will be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Apparently we're working on signing someone.http://www.freep.com/article/20130122/SPORTS05/130122030/1053/sports05?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FreepDetroitRedWings+%28freep.com+%7C+Detroit+Red+Wings%29 Who wants to bet it's signing Nathan Paetsch to a 2-way deal so he can be brought up Holland's been on the phone for the past two hours trying to get a "veteran defenseman" for tonight's game against Dallas.I'm calling it. It's Lilja. That actually wouldn't be that surprising... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 22, 2013 Who wants to bet it's signing Nathan Paetsch to a 2-way deal so he can be brought up Probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 New Jersey has had Adam Larsson as a healthy scratch the last two nights, wonder if they could be a trading partner. Volchenkov, Tallinder, and Fayne would all be good additions. Volchenkov has a NTC, but hasn't been playing a ton for them, wondered if it's a limited one or not? Andy Greene would be amazing, but I doubt they would let him go play on the top pairing. Tallinder is a steady veteran, probably the easiest to bait a trade for and cheapest. Fayne is young, on a great deal, and is playing very very well. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 Volchenkov has a NTC Did not know this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Neither did I, but if he's not getting playing time and looks at us and sees a chance to play big minutes, he might be willing to waive it no? I ******* hope so anyway. Edited January 23, 2013 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 TSN was discussing that probably Subban is going to get traded. Dunno know if Subban solves any of our problems however he is young and has loads of potential. Asking price will be high I'm sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eb9 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I don't think it makes sense to give away Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, or Howard. As far as I'm concerned they are the four untouchables. That makes Franzen and Fil our two highest-value players as trade bait. I'm actually not even comfortable with trading away Fil given his great year last year. I wonder if maybe this team could work out? Brendan Smith's first full year as a Red Wing. Worst case scenerio we finish poorly, get a good draft pick, and use some cap space to get a good free agent defenseman. I know that failed last year, but I still have trust in Ken Holland. It could be a tough road, or maybe it will just be some years of having to fight for the last playoff spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 TSN was discussing that probably Subban is going to get traded. Dunno know if Subban solves any of our problems however he is young and has loads of potential. Asking price will be high I'm sure... Not to mention he is a big spot-picking doucher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I don't think it makes sense to give away Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, or Howard. As far as I'm concerned they are the four untouchables. That makes Franzen and Fil our two highest-value players as trade bait. I'm actually not even comfortable with trading away Fil given his great year last year. I wonder if maybe this team could work out? Brendan Smith's first full year as a Red Wing. Worst case scenerio we finish poorly, get a good draft pick, and use some cap space to get a good free agent defenseman. I know that failed last year, but I still have trust in Ken Holland. It could be a tough road, or maybe it will just be some years of having to fight for the last playoff spots. "Hi, guys. I'm Doug." "Hi, Doug." "There was a time when I had a pretty good thing going. But then I wouldn't trade Filapoola. Before I knew it, I was on a real tough road, a downward spiral. Spent two years fighting, scraping just to get into the playoffs. Oh, sure, I had my moments, but..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I'd be fine with a trade for Pernell Karl, except that the asking price might be unrealistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 I would love a Franzen for Subban trade! 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites