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Flip and Nyquist for Yandle. Done.

too high of a price tag for him IMO.

start lower.

first off...acquire a solid contributor for back up D ( campoli / jurcina)

then i would kick the tires on OEL (i know...its a reach)

bogozian

visnovsky

jack johnson ( another reach)

yandle

but you never know...get a general manager off his meds at the right time....

BINGO!

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I'm curious. For all the people who are insisting with aggressive opinions that Yandle and/or Bouwmeester are elite/suck/average/etc...how many people actually consistently watch either of them? I know just typing "I dunno" isn't as fun but really how much do we know?

I think the proof is all over the place. I've lurked around on a lot of Wings forums and if you want a good laugh, go look at some of the know-it-alls insisting smugly that Ian White was garbage and shouldn't be here. I saw people questioning Dan Cleary, with the usual illogical "well he sucked before, he can't ever be good somewhere else" stupidity. I've seen people chew crow on signings or trades so often I just laugh when we wipe our memories and have another go at playing pretend expert like it never happened.

And for anyone who might actually watch either of the two consistently, not to sound like a dick but how many would even be able to judge their ability to play or fit in here? We can hardly even make up our mind about our own players. It's one thing to simply state what you think but it's hilarious when people pursue silly shouting matches over guys they don't even watch.

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="irishock" data-cid="2340148" data-time="1358223520"><p>

Over pay for Edler in free agency.</p></blockquote>

Agreed. Would far rather explore this route than give up a ton for Yandle or Bouwmeester. I think Edler is better than both anyways.

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Holland should keep an eye out for Raphael Diaz (Montreal) He played with Hank and Brunner in Zug and was the best defenseman of the league. Great on the power play

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lol

JBo's offensive output hasn't been worth his pay cheque in years. He gets more mins in Calgary than he would here, so why would you assume his production would increase significantly? The difference in mins should make up for the small difference in systems

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I'm not so sure if you can say more ice time = more points on a team like Calgary?

I'm thinking better group of skilled forwards + system that suits his style will = a more productive Bouwmeester if he were in Detroit.

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Wings were the 8th best in goals per game, and Calgary was 6th worst. I don't think it's a stretch to say the Red Wings have a better offensive hockey club.

Anyways, Bouwmeester's production isn't what I'd want him for, he helped the penalty kill a ton, something that is important for the Red Wings, especially with losing Lidstrom(who played about 1 minute a game), and Stuart(who was our main penalty killer). I just think he would flourish with the Wings, Calgary plays a passive, trap oriented system. The Red Wings transition game would translate better with Jbow's speed and pass. I just don't think it's a good fit with him in Calgary. I agree though, I really don't like his contract, but let's not act like Yandle's is much better, about 1 million dollars cheaper and 2 years longer.

Good points.

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too high of a price tag for him IMO.

start lower.

first off...acquire a solid contributor for back up D ( campoli / jurcina)

then i would kick the tires on OEL (i know...its a reach)

bogozian

visnovsky

jack johnson ( another reach)

yandle

but you never know...get a general manager off his meds at the right time....

BINGO!

Bogosian is the most solid of all those blueliners, but after last season it's hard to think that the Jets will be letting him go anywhere. He'll likely be on the top pairing this year, he gets huge PP mins now that they know how lethal his shot is and he's a great shutdown guy too. I'd take him over Yandle any day of the week. Bogo and Smith would be a nasty 2nd pairing.

On a side note, I saw a dude in Superstore last night in Jets swag that looked exactly like him. I was gonna send the wife to see if it was him but then got distracted by food...

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I'm curious. For all the people who are insisting with aggressive opinions that Yandle and/or Bouwmeester are elite/suck/average/etc...how many people actually consistently watch either of them? I know just typing "I dunno" isn't as fun but really how much do we know?

I think the proof is all over the place. I've lurked around on a lot of Wings forums and if you want a good laugh, go look at some of the know-it-alls insisting smugly that Ian White was garbage and shouldn't be here. I saw people questioning Dan Cleary, with the usual illogical "well he sucked before, he can't ever be good somewhere else" stupidity. I've seen people chew crow on signings or trades so often I just laugh when we wipe our memories and have another go at playing pretend expert like it never happened.

And for anyone who might actually watch either of the two consistently, not to sound like a dick but how many would even be able to judge their ability to play or fit in here? We can hardly even make up our mind about our own players. It's one thing to simply state what you think but it's hilarious when people pursue silly shouting matches over guys they don't even watch.

This is LGW. This is what we do.

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Z Winged Dangler" data-cid="2340184" data-time="1358257359"><p>

Bogosian is the most solid of all those blueliners, but after last season it's hard to think that the Jets will be letting him go anywhere. He'll likely be on the top pairing this year, he gets huge PP mins now that they know how lethal his shot is and he's a great shutdown guy too. I'd take him over Yandle any day of the week. Bogo and Smith would be a nasty 2nd pairing.<br />

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On a side note, I saw a dude in Superstore last night in Jets swag that looked exactly like him. I was gonna send the wife to see if it was him but then got distracted by food...</p></blockquote>

You were too shy!!!

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Tobias Enstrom

Zach Bogosian

Anton Volchenkov

Rob Regehr

Keith Yandle (Although Filppula + Smith is overpayment)

Buffalo has a plethora of defensemen. Wonder what it would take to get Regehr?

Franzine and Kindl?

I would laugh my ass off if Holland came up with a package deal that sent Franzine + to Calgary for Bogosian+. To see my two most favorite players together again would bring a tear to my eye!

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Franzine and Kindl?

I would laugh my ass off if Holland came up with a package deal that sent Franzine + to Calgary for Bogosian+. To see my two most favorite players together again would bring a tear to my eye!

Mule and Hudler? =)

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Bring Back The Bruise Bros" data-cid="2340249" data-time="1358272319"><p>

Tobias Enstrom<br />

Zach Bogosian<br />

Anton Volchenkov<br />

Rob Regehr<br />

Keith Yandle (Although Filppula + Smith is overpayment)<br />

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Buffalo has a plethora of defensemen. Wonder what it would take to get Regehr?</p></blockquote>

Jefe, would you say Buffalo has a "plethora" of defensemen?

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Franzine and Kindl?

I would laugh my ass off if Holland came up with a package deal that sent Franzine + to Calgary for Bogosian+. To see my two most favorite players together again would bring a tear to my eye!

I would laugh too. Especially since Bogosian plays for Winnipeg. :w00t:

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We need at least two good defenseman just to equal last years D and we didn't play good D last year as it was

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Looks like wade redden is going to get bought out soon, 1 year $750k. Low risk big reward

i would not be at all shocked if he ended up here.

it would be a holland esque signing.

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We need at least two good defenseman just to equal last years D and we didn't play good D last year as it was

Lets play some games before we go too crazy. Maybe Kronwall and Ericsson step their game up, maybe the loss of Lidstrom forces the entire team to focus more on defense.

As for the potential new rules for buyouts this year. I dont see any benefit to the teams buying the contracts out this season. They may as well keep them home and under contract in case disaster hits and they actually need them.

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="up2here" data-cid="2340303" data-time="1358282669"><p>

Lets play some games before we go too crazy. Maybe Kronwall and Ericsson step their game up, maybe the loss of Lidstrom forces the entire team to focus more on defense.<br />

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As for the potential new rules for buyouts this year. I dont see any benefit to the teams buying the contracts out this season. They may as well keep them home and under contract in case disaster hits and they actually need them.</p></blockquote>

The only way I'd see players getting bought out this year is if they asked their teams to do it now rather than wait.. If the team wants to be respectful to their player, they'd do it.

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Looks like wade redden is going to get bought out soon, 1 year $750k. Low risk big reward

And he hasn't had what would even be considered a mediocre season in what, 5 years? Low risk/low reward. Can Scott Gomez come along with him?

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Plus don't forget that someone would have to drop from the roster to make room. Willing to lose Kindl for nothing via waivers to bring in a guy who either because of lack of interest or drop in talent could barely play in the AHL when he got buried there? Wouldn't be worth it imo.

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="ogreslayer" data-cid="2340324" data-time="1358285497"><p>

And he hasn't had what would even be considered a mediocre season in what, 5 years? Low risk/low reward. Can Scott Gomez come along with him?<br />

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Plus don't forget that someone would have to drop from the roster to make room. Willing to lose Kindl for nothing via waivers to bring in a guy who either because of lack of interest or drop in talent could barely play in the AHL when he got buried there? Wouldn't be worth it imo.</p></blockquote>

Or Samuelsson? Oh wait...

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