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[frankgrimes]

if they decertified, nobody would be playing any nhl hockey for the foreseable future

 

the only notable dman i see the wings getting in a trade would be boumeester and even then i think it's a stretch. i don't think there's any chance the wings get yandle since they will want several young forwards in any trade for him,something that the wings can't really afford to give up imo.

 

an interesting player to look at for this season would be visnovsky. he would probably be had for dirt cheap from the islanders if the wings could get him to come back over to north america.

 

Lockout would have been ruled against employees rights so we would have hockey and a ton of great UFA players waiting to get a ringtone from Kenny.

 

I think Visnovsky is playing the slovakian league for his hometown team and wants to stay there. I'd take Boumeester over Yandle any day and 3 times out of 3, given the right system this guy can be a stud again but I don't think Holland is willing to move the pieces to get him.

[Marty Barry]

All this article does for me is confirm the obvious.  Kenny's wheels are always turning.  He wouldn't be doing his job if not.  LET'S JUST START THE SEASON!

[WorkingOvertime]

Pheonix was rumored to be close to a trade yesterday. I doubt the Wings could/would pay the price for OEL or Yandle, but they do have other good defensemen.

[Crymson]

Lockout would have been ruled against employees rights so we would have hockey and a ton of great UFA players waiting to get a ringtone from Kenny.

 

I think Visnovsky is playing the slovakian league for his hometown team and wants to stay there. I'd take Boumeester over Yandle any day and 3 times out of 3, given the right system this guy can be a stud again but I don't think Holland is willing to move the pieces to get him.

 

Bouwmeester is crap. He's a strong skater and he's durable. Beyond that, he's not much above average. Yandle is far more valuable.

actually the wings did confirm that they had interest in boumeester during the summer

 

http://www.mlive.com..._calgary_f.html

 

That supposed "team source" was one for Calgary, and was the genesis of the entire rumor. He was not a reputable source.

Yandle is not what we need. He's a good player, but I'd think Bouwmeester would be a better fit for what we need. Good size, defensively responsible, decent first passer, great skater. Bouwmeester might not be a better player, but he would fit our needs more imo.

 

He's got a giant contract that he's not even remotely worth, and Calgary will demand a lot in return for him.

[Seraph]

I can't see post-lockout-lockout Holland making a big splash in the trade market. He believes too much in developing his own players. Maybe we could put together some lower tier guys and get a half-way decent defenseman via trade, but I feel we are SOL for a top 2 d-man. It's either going to come from free-agency or from our young guns. This year might be a wash if our team can't learn how to play around the hole our old captain left.

 

I don't really have a read on how the organization feels about Franzen's contract, but statistically he is one of our better players. So if anything, Holland can tell teams that are interested that he's sending them our top goal scorer. I know many defend Franzen, but considering his streakiness and our lack of defense, I would definitely deal him for an equally valuable d-man on paper.

[dirtydangles]

Bogosian would be a nice piece as he is a RH dman with great size, mobility, and youth. I think more realistically we should target a guy like gormley who is probably nhl ready but is on a team with a crowded blueline. I don't think we have the depth to trade for a current top tier dman, but we could try for a potential top tier guy in gormley. maybe even rundblad but people seem to dislike him.

[kylee]

OEL would be a GREAT trade for in which you wouldn't have to give up a lot like you would with Yandle. 

[dirtydangles]

OEL would be a GREAT trade for in which you wouldn't have to give up a lot like you would with Yandle. 

NOT True. OEL is their undisputed No.1 dman.

 

Also, I think the wings will wait and see what they have in brunner before they make any trades of forwards for dmen.

[kylee]

While I agree that OEL is clearly their #1, I still think we'd have to give up more for Yandle. Either or would be great, have no idea how likely either are to actually being traded or not.

[Jesusberg]

NOT True. OEL is their undisputed No.1 dman.

 

Also, I think the wings will wait and see what they have in brunner before they make any trades of forwards for dmen.

This... OEL has improved a lot in the past couple years and is one of the best young defenders in the league. He can play in all situations, unlike Yandle.

I think if Detroit does make a move, it'll be for some kind of cheaper veteran stop-gap. The forward prospects who are excelling are ones I wouldn't want to move, and the ones I'd move aren't playing as well as they could be, and aren't attractive options to other teams. While it's probably not as appealing as other moves, I wouldn't mind Visnovsky for a pick or lower end prospect. It's clear he doesn't want to play on Long Island, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't play here.

Edited by Jesusberg, 13 January 2013 - 09:43 PM.

[puckbags]

 

That supposed "team source" was one for Calgary, and was the genesis of the entire rumor. He was not a reputable source.

I agree with alot of things you say on here but you asked him for a source and he linked you directly to a source on mlive and now its not good enough? Sources are hardly ever named by name..not sure what you want from the guy.

 

As for the matter being discussed I think we take a shot with the crew we got back there unless we are talking 2/3 d man . Lets see how this group of guys does.

[Crymson]

OEL would be a GREAT trade for in which you wouldn't have to give up a lot like you would with Yandle. 

 

Holland would need to break the bank in order to obtain OEL. He's on course to become an all-world defenseman. I would be surprised if he would not cost more than Yandle, who amounts more to a 4th forward.

[F.Michael]

Bouwmeester is crap. He's a strong skater and he's durable. Beyond that, he's not much above average. Yandle is far more valuable.

 

That supposed "team source" was one for Calgary, and was the genesis of the entire rumor. He was not a reputable source.

 

He's got a giant contract that he's not even remotely worth, and Calgary will demand a lot in return for him.

Huh...The darndest thing...Nothing being mentioned about "crap" in this player bio http://www.forecaste...player.cgi?2876

[Crymson]

Huh...The darndest thing...Nothing being mentioned about "crap" in this player bio http://www.forecaste...player.cgi?2876

 

He's crap for his cap hit and for what Calgary would demand for him.

[F.Michael]

He's crap for his cap hit and for what Calgary would demand for him.

Well - I do agree with you that's he isn't cheap (salary that is), nor will he come to Detroit cheap (although ya never know what the Flames will take in return)  - however where else can Holland find a good puck moving Dman capable of playing top pairing minutes?

 

Unfortunately if Holland is gonna look for a legit #1/#2 Dman - he's gonna have to pay in one way, or another.

[ogreslayer]

Well - I do agree with you that's he isn't cheap (salary that is), nor will he come to Detroit cheap (although ya never know what the Flames will take in return)  - however where else can Holland find a good puck moving Dman capable of playing top pairing minutes?

 

Unfortunately if Holland is gonna look for a legit #1/#2 Dman - he's gonna have to pay in one way, or another.

Crossing my fingers that Kenny can somehow pull off a Iginla/J-Bo trade at the deadline if indications are that Jerome won't re-sign in Calgary.  

[Drake_Marcus]

Yandle would be my preference.  I have no interest in JBo unless he can be had for almost nothing.

[Johnz96]

OEL LOL

[Drake_Marcus]

 I'd take Boumeester over Yandle any day and 3 times out of 3, given the right system this guy can be a stud again but I don't think Holland is willing to move the pieces to get him.

 

lol

JBo's offensive output hasn't been worth his pay cheque in years.  He gets more mins in Calgary than he would here, so why would you assume his production would increase significantly?  The difference in mins should make up for the small difference in systems
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[chances14]

That supposed "team source" was one for Calgary, and was the genesis of the entire rumor.

really and how do you know this?