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#1 RedWingNation43

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:39 PM

http://www.mlive.com...looking_at.html

 

Do you take a chance?


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

I'd pass. Time to get younger and not add older legs


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

Unless we are working on something to get a 1/2/3 d man in here then I don't take a chance..we have lots of guys who can play the 4/5/6 spot.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:53 PM

This guy is done. Dont need other team's TRASH at any price. Sammy and Tootoo already enough Trash. How many of us want to see Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Andersson, Kindl, Ouelette, etc. develop instead of Bertuzzi, Sammy, Tootoo, Redden, Cleary, etc. suck? The saying is not "out with the new, in with the old". Should Nyquist be bumping Franzen or Helm out of playing time? Hell no. Bertuzzi and Samuelsson? Absolutely. No need for Trash. At any price.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

I'm not advocating signing him, but we all know how the Wings management likes to take on players looking for redemption.  Redden is the "redemption case" poster child, and Kenny would be more likely to sign a UFA than make a big trade...


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

While I used to jump to Sammy's defense before he went to Van, I can not argue with the fact seeing Nyquist over Bert or Sammy is a no-brainer! 


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:59 PM

I'm going to agree with the majority here and say no, I think are defensive core isn't as bad as people are making it out to be but I know a lot of people hate on Kindl on the forums so do you replace Kindl with Redden and that moves gives us a more solid D? tough to say


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

^We haven't even see Tootoo play yet and he's already trash?

 

I wouldn't go as far as calling Redden another teams trash. He was being paid to be a top pair guy but was playing more like a 3rd pair guy. He got put in a sticky situation and had to be barried in the minors so NYR could pay someone else that cap space. He'll probably make it as a #6/7 dman on another team. Red Wings however, don't have the space. Pass.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:01 PM

Not a chance. Redden can't even maintain a top-pairing role in the AHL. He's vastly past his prime. Why on earth would we want him here? Besides, we don't need another puck-mover.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:02 PM

While I used to jump to Sammy's defense before he went to Van, I can not argue with the fact seeing Nyquist over Bert or Sammy is a no-brainer! 

 

I wasn't happy when I first heard Sammy would essentially be taking Nyquist's spot. But, if you think about it...Zetterberg, Datsuk, Brunner, Nyquist, Filppula...kinda samey, no?


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Crymson" data-cid="2340634" data-time="1358362860"><p>
Not a chance. Redden can't even maintain a top-pairing role in the AHL. He's vastly past his prime. Why on earth would we want him here? Besides, we don't need another puck-mover.</p></blockquote>


Agreed. And Lids isnt here to revitalize the Modern Day Murphys any more. He would be Commodore part 2 = waste of money.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:05 PM

As others have said, Redden makes a logjam at the 6/7 D position, with Colaiacovo, Kindl and Redden all trying to crack the final spot in the lineup.

 

Based on the pairings used in recent practices...

Kronwall - Ericsson

Quincey - Smith

Colaicovo/Kindl/Redden - White.

 

While it's nice to have competition to crack the lineup, that might be a little much.  But, if they are intent on pursuing him, please let it be for only 1 year.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

As others have said, Redden makes a logjam at the 6/7 D position, with Colaiacovo, Kindl and Redden all trying to crack the final spot in the lineup.

 

Based on the pairings used in recent practices...

Kronwall - Ericsson

Quincey - Smith

Colaicovo/Kindl/Redden - White.

 

While it's nice to have competition to crack the lineup, that might be a little much.  But, if they are intent on pursuing him, please let it be for only 1 year.

 

The article says only that he will be an option, not that the Wings are actually considering him.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:09 PM

I wasn't happy when I first heard Sammy would essentially be taking Nyquist's spot. But, if you think about it...Zetterberg, Datsuk, Brunner, Nyquist, Filppula...kinda samey, no?

 

Yeah they all deserve top 6 minutes. (EDIT:Meant that some what sarcastically)

But what difference does Sammy make? He shoots a lot and plays decent D.

 

I do imagine though that groin injuries will play a major role in this season. So I see him playing around 15-20 games for the Wings, being the first call up.


Edited by Opie, 16 January 2013 - 02:12 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:09 PM

This guy is done. Dont need other team's TRASH at any price. Sammy and Tootoo already enough Trash. How many of us want to see Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Andersson, Kindl, Ouelette, etc. develop instead of Bertuzzi, Sammy, Tootoo, Redden, Cleary, etc. suck? The saying is not "out with the new, in with the old". Should Nyquist be bumping Franzen or Helm out of playing time? Hell no. Bertuzzi and Samuelsson? Absolutely. No need for Trash. At any price.

If Tootoo can keep his head on straight which would've been clearly part of Holland's negotiation with him he is going to bring an element to this team that is missing.  Helm can have game changing shifts with his speed and forecheck but Tootoo will be able to change the momentum of a game with big hits and some sandpaper.  Everyone always bitched we haven't employed enough guys like Tootoo around here and now we get one and he's garbage before he's even played a game with us? And like i've said before..better to play with him then against him 6 times a year.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="puckbags" data-cid="2340643" data-time="1358363383"><p>
If Tootoo can keep his head on straight which would've been clearly part of Holland's negotiation with him he is going to bring an element to this team that is missing.  Helm can have game changing shifts with his speed and forecheck but Tootoo will be able to change the momentum of a game with big hits and some sandpaper.  Everyone always bitched we haven't employed enough guys like Tootoo around here and now we get one and he's garbage before he's even played a game with us? And like i've said before..better to play with him then against him 6 times a year.</p></blockquote>


Tootoo is Not Drake. Nor is he Kocur. He's a cheapshot artist. Like Marchment or Cooke. Dont need that at all. We need some helmet cracking knuckles and FAIR hits at speed.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

I think you can do a lot worse in the cheapshot artist department... He's no Matt Cooke or Raffi Torres. I think we'll see a lot of similarities between himself and Dallas Drake.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:24 PM

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="puckbags" data-cid="2340643" data-time="1358363383"><p>
If Tootoo can keep his head on straight which would've been clearly part of Holland's negotiation with him he is going to bring an element to this team that is missing.  Helm can have game changing shifts with his speed and forecheck but Tootoo will be able to change the momentum of a game with big hits and some sandpaper.  Everyone always bitched we haven't employed enough guys like Tootoo around here and now we get one and he's garbage before he's even played a game with us? And like i've said before..better to play with him then against him 6 times a year.</p></blockquote>


Tootoo is Not Drake. Nor is he Kocur. He's a cheapshot artist. Like Marchment or Cooke. Dont need that at all. We need some helmet cracking knuckles and FAIR hits at speed.

 

Tootoo will provide both.

 

The guy's been a Predator his whole career. Suppose he spent his career thus far in Detroit. Do you think he'd have the same reputation? Odds are (I say) he wouldn't. But then, you think Emmerton's the Second Coming, so...I dunno. :hehe:

 

As for Redden - Will Holland sign him? Probably not. I don't think it's totally outside the realm of possibility, though. Would't surprise me, tbh.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

God I sure hope not... Redden is done


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:40 PM

I also doubt Redden would sign with the Red Wings. He probably wants to go to a team where he knows he'll have the best shot at being on their NHL roster. I don't think Holland would risk having to waive someone on the team already to make room for a 35YO gamble. I will however bet that Holland wouldn't hesitate to take this gamble had we not signed Colaiacovo. Redden perfectly fits Hollands favored soft one dimensional veteran dman mold.

 

What we really need is some experienced depth on D for GR. We're missing someone like Doug Janik that can come up if injuries pile up. Brian Lashoff is our #8 guy right now, and after that it's looking pretty thin.


Edited by DSM, 16 January 2013 - 02:45 PM.






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