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#141 steves1126

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:39 PM

Many of you fans sat down with their families, friends, strangers at a bar (me); to watch the Detroit Red Wings take on the St. Louis Blues in the season opener. Despite the brutal beating that was generously provided by the home team, fans of the Red Wings need not judge, worry, nor watch the game through their fingers during the home opener tomorrow. Detroit is still the same Central Division powerhouse we all know and love.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:45 PM

Despite what happens tonight, i'm excited for Tuesday's game...


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:46 PM

it was tough to watch on sunday!!! looking forward to going to a game soon!



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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:04 PM

See you at the Joe!


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:06 PM

FWIW; Doug McLean was on Vancouver Team 1040 today and said he was talking to the Detroit Organization and they told him it was frightenning how much better St Louis was than them, and how good they are this season. 



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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:14 PM

I don't know when you became a Wings fan, or when you joined this forum. But during that off season, I can guarantee than this forum was at least 50-50 on whether to keep Franzen or Hossa. So it's not just now everyone is saying we want Hossa, it's been this way and has been debated back and forth since the day Marian signed with Chicago.  Also, you like to say Hossa had a disappearing act in 2009 playoffs, well, if you watched and were a fan back then, you'd know that he was seriously injured in those playoffs and missed half the next season due to surgery on that injury.  I wouldn't call it a disappearing act rather an ill-timed injury. Blaming Hossa for the 2009 loss is a copout.  Hossa has been and always will be better than Franzen, and it is one of the worst mistakes Holland has made.  The day he signed Hossa his team got better, and ever since he let him go, the team has gotten worse and worse...Since Holland couldn't or wouldn't address the issues sooner, you are now seeing him scramble to try to patch holes that he knew was coming and didn't have a plan for...ie giving up a 1st round pick for Quincey who isn't worth a 4th round pick...

 

Been a Wings fan since the early 1980's and a season ticket holder until the 2005 lockout.  If you've been a Wings fan for that long or longer, you'll remember some of the things that used to be said about this team...Like Steve Yzerman isn't a good leader and can't produce in the playoffs...After losing his first few years here, that Scotty Bowman was too old and the game had passed him by(Remember when he had a trade lined up to send Stevie Y to Ottawa?)...That no way could the Wings win with a bunch of Russians...We'll never win with that play off slacker Fedorov...We'll never win with all those "old" guys...we're too old and too slow...We need a big tough defenseman...We need a power forward...we need a star goaltender...We'll never win with Vernon...never, ever with Osgood...The Wings are too soft...too many Swedes...we should trade all our old baggage for good young players and cleary the management is stupid if they don't...After 98, we're surely in rebuilding mode and we'll never win again...after 2002, well surely that was it...Too old and surely we'll never win with out Yzerman...

 

So after 20+ years of playoffs, conference semi finals, WCF, Stanley Cup Finals and 4 Stanley Cup Championships, watching Hall of Famers in their primes... forgive me if I tend to give the Wings management the benefit of the doubt...There isn't any GM in any sport who's made the right decision on everything...never happened, never will...

 

Of course everyone is a masterful GM when they're sitting behind a keyboard and can make up all sorts of fantasy scenerios in their heads and not have to live in reality...



#147 The Axe

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

We need better players.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:21 PM

Reading down the schedule a couple weeks, we could easily be at 4 wins, 8 losses...then I got discouraged and stopped reading.  EVERYONE has gotten better, we have gotten substantially worse.

 

This is going to be the longest short season ever.



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:27 PM

Looks like Holland was right.  We are in the Seth Jones sweepstakes.  



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:03 PM

Looks like Holland was right.  We are in the Seth Jones sweepstakes.  

Hard to do without a first round pick!

People need to calm down. Since the first game, defense hasn't been a problem. I've actually been pretty impressed with both our defense and Jimmy Howard. It's our offense that isn't getting it done so far. I don't view that as a problem because we all know they can score. Once our forwards start picking it up and burying their chances, I think we'll be in pretty good shape.

Until then just calm down. Its only been 3 games

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

Hard to do without a first round pick!

People need to calm down. Since the first game, defense hasn't been a problem. I've actually been pretty impressed with both our defense and Jimmy Howard. It's our offense that isn't getting it done so far. I don't view that as a problem because we all know they can score. Once our forwards start picking it up and burying their chances, I think we'll be in pretty good shape.

Until then just calm down. Its only been 3 games

 

We have our first round pick this year, the Quincey trade was last year's first round pick. Agreed with the rest of your post though! Too early to call anything definitive.



#152 Marty Barry

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:25 PM

If we stink it up and get a high 1st rounder (NHL ready stud) and have some decent offseason signings/trades, the latter part of next season I hope they play AC/DC's Back In The Saddle Again at all home games.



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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:29 PM

Hard to do without a first round pick!

People need to calm down. Since the first game, defense hasn't been a problem.

 

 

 

 

I beg to differ.  The Defense can't get the puck out to the Offense in customary Red Wing style.   Those guys just can't pass like we're used to.   

 

I'm calm, I'm just not content.  Yes, I am concerned.



#154 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:49 AM

 

If we stink it up and get a high 1st rounder (NHL ready stud) and have some decent offseason signings/trades, the latter part of next season I hope they play AC/DC's Back In The Saddle Again at all home games.

 

Back in the saddle again is Aerosmith, if AC/DC, you're looking for back in black.

I'd actually kind of like it if the Wings finished bottom 5 and got either McKinnon or Drouin. I'm not really sold from watching Seth Jones that he's more valuable than either of those guys and we have Oulette and Sproul that I think are better than Jones. If we got one of thos 2 kids in top 5 and then got (IF they don't re-sign with their teams) Getzlaf, Perry or Iginla then the Wings are back as a top tier team. They're only a couple pick ups away now and then some of the kids need to come up sooner rather than later like Sproul, Oulette, Tatar, Nyquist and even keep Lashoff as a 3rd liner. Lastyl, Cleary needs to go. I can't stress enough how much he needs to go.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

I was doing a little research and looking back at the last lockout shortened season.  Everyone keeps saying how important is it to "get off to a good start or it'll be over before you know it".  While it never hurts to get off to a good start, I'm much more interested in how things end.  In 1995, the NJ Devils started off 0-3-1, were below .500 for about half the season, finished a little over .500 and made the playoffs.  In May and June they went 16-4 and won the Stanley Cup.  If you like to be pessimistic, then by all means, keep whining about the slow start, but how well they're playing in January means nothing, even in a short season, and there's the proof.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

I was doing a little research and looking back at the last lockout shortened season.  Everyone keeps saying how important is it to "get off to a good start or it'll be over before you know it".  While it never hurts to get off to a good start, I'm much more interested in how things end.  In 1995, the NJ Devils started off 0-3-1, were below .500 for about half the season, finished a little over .500 and made the playoffs.  In May and June they went 16-4 and won the Stanley Cup.  If you like to be pessimistic, then by all means, keep whining about the slow start, but how well they're playing in January means nothing, even in a short season, and there's the proof.

It's good to stay positive, but let's be realistic.  This team can't come within 10 light years of the defense that Devils team played.


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#157 LeftWinger

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

Its ugly so far.....if after 10 games its still this ugly....then holland better be getting ready for a couple trades and that Seth Jones kid....

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

Its ugly so far.....if after 10 games its still this ugly....then holland better be getting ready for a couple trades and that Seth Jones kid....


Or MacKinnon ;)...

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:39 AM

It's good to stay positive, but let's be realistic.  This team can't come within 10 light years of the defense that Devils team played.

 

True, but we have a much better offense than the Devils did that year.  We have a goalie who is actually playing really well for us right now and an offense that's a little snake bitten at the moment, but is far too talented to stay this quiet.  The defense is definitely a work in progress, no doubt, especially with the injuries now, but who knows what our defense will look like in a couple months after the trade deadline and our younger guys get more experience.  I think history has also proven that doubting the Wings can make people look very foolish in the end. 



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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:46 AM

It's good to stay positive, but let's be realistic.  This team can't come within 10 light years of the defense that Devils team played.

Oh really?

Rafalski-Martin

Lukowich-Colin White

Ken Klee- Matvichuk

Malackhov/Albelin/Mcgillis/Hale

 

I'm not saying we have a better defense, but let's not act like this is Scott Stevens/Niedermayer New Jersey Devils.







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